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Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we’re joined by a special guest: Laura Shin, host of Unchained! The crew unpacks Circle’s explosive IPO, Tether’s threat to exit the U.S., and the meme-stock logic powering the rise of “crypto treasury companies.” From Coinbase’s grip on USDC to Wall Street’s sudden enthusiasm for stablecoins, we explore how public markets are reshaping crypto’s power centers. Is Circle overvalued—or the last compliant winner left? And are ICOs really back? We debate whether crypto’s just maturing—or if it’s being hijacked by the suits. Show highlights 🔹 Circle’s IPO Shocks Wall Street – One of the biggest two-day pops in IPO history: Did bankers misprice, or did crypto just break TradFi? 🔹 Stablecoin Season or Meme Stock Mania? – Circle hits 160x earnings, 15x revenue—Tarun calls it “CoreWeave for finance” 🔹 Tether Threatens U.S. Exit – New regulation looms: Will Circle rule America while Tether dominates abroad? 🔹 The Coinbase Cut – Why Coinbase might be the real winner behind USDC—and the hidden economics of stablecoin margins 🔹 Banking Consortium Incoming? – JPMorgan and Wells reportedly plotting their own stablecoin play. Is Circle racing against the banks? 🔹 The Rise of Treasury Tokens – From MicroStrategy to Solana clones: Are “crypto holding companies” the new ETF? 🔹 Copycats or Cult Leaders? – Why everyone wants to be Saylor—and why most won’t survive 🔹 Are These Companies Just Meme Stocks? – Laura and Tarun debate whether tradable crypto firms have real value—or just vibes 🔹 The Return of the ICO – Plasma raises $500M on Sonar, sparking a new wave of pre-token speculation 🔹 Is This Financial Innovation or Regulatory Theater? – Haseeb asks: Are we maturing—or just dressing TradFi in crypto clothes? ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Laura Shin, Journalist, Author of ‘The Cryptopians,’ Founder and CEO of Unchained Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:25 Circle's IPO: A Historic Event 03:16 Market Reactions & Implications 06:49 Stablecoin Legislation & Tether's Response 08:56 Circle's Market Position & Future 23:12 Crypto Treasury Companies: The New Trend 32:09 Understanding Convertible Arbitrage in Crypto 37:02 Potential Risks and Market Dynamics 41:36 The Influence of Michael Saylor 43:57 The Need for Charismatic Leaders in Crypto 50:07 The Rise of ICOs and Market Trends 55:04 Concluding Thoughts on ICOs HostsDisclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12 Juni 55min

This week on Bits + Bips, the panel tackles the biggest themes driving crypto: Circle’s triumphant IPO, ETH’s institutional tailwinds, and the fast-shrinking Bitcoin supply on exchanges. Plus, what Gemini’s IPO ambitions tell us about the state of exchanges, and whether Ram’s call for a BTC breakout is about to hit. Also on the docket: Is Circle really worth its sky-high valuation? Why exchange fees are stuck in the 1970s ETH: the quiet trade that might be heating up Oh, and yes, they talk about the Trump–Elon feud too 😅 Sponsors: Bitwise James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Steve Ehrlich, Executive Editor at Unchained Guest: Sal Ternullo, Managing Partner at A100x Ventures The Conversation: The blow-up between Elon Musk and Donald Trump has been entertaining, but how did things go so bad, so fast? Unchained: Stablecoin Giant Circle Raises $1.1 Billion in Its IPO Early Circle Backer Slams IPO in Expletive-Filled Letter  BlackRock’s IBIT Becomes Fastest-Ever ETF to Top $70B  Blockworks: Gemini files confidential S-1 with SEC in road to IPO The Block:  Trump’s Truth Social files S-1 with SEC for Bitcoin ETF 15-day streak brings Ethereum ETFs to record high cumulative inflow value Metaplanet unveils $5.4B equity raise plan to accelerate bitcoin accumulation Cointelegraph: Bitcoin supply shock? Percentage of BTC on exchanges nears 2018 levels CoinDesk:  MSTR Boosts Stack Again Strategy to Raise Nearly $1B With STRD Preferred Stock Offering to Accumulate BTC Bloomberg: Metaplanet’s shares surged 22% after unveiling a record-setting $5.4 billion stock rights program aimed at growing its bitcoin holdings. Timestamps: 👋 0:00 Intro 🧠 1:28 Why the market is ignoring the Trump-Elon “break up”  📈 16:47 Is there a reason for Circle’s eye-watering valuation? (And what it means for  crypto VC) 🏦 30:25 Why Circle may struggle to compete with traditional banks 🚀 38:34 Why exchanges should rush to go public 🌐 46:40 Why Ram thinks that the market is immune from more bad news 🔥 57:16 The secret signs of a coming bitcoin supply shock 🧾 1:03:58 What’s behind the bitcoin and ether ETFs’ recent momentum and if it will last Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

11 Juni 1h 8min

In part 2 of Jeff Park’s interview with Unchained, he describes ways that both everyday investors and the U.S. government can use various crypto assets to come out on top as old models and strategies become outdated.  He reveals the three personal stories that led him to develop his radical portfolio theory, puts himself in the shoes of Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, and explains why Japan is the linchpin in the transition to this new world order. In this episode, we explore: Why Jeff believes the future belongs to wholecoiners The social mission behind owning bitcoin How the U.S. could leverage stablecoins to maintain global dominance Why the new American dream might not involve a house at all And why, in Jeff’s words, we may already be “living in a Bitcoin-only world.” Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Xapo Bank Bitwise Guest: Jeff Park, Head of Alpha Strategies at Bitwise Part 1 of Jeff on Unchained: Jeff Park Says the 60/40 Portfolio May Be Dead. Here’s His Radical Fix  Timestamps: 👋 0:00 Intro 📌 3:14 The 3 life events that shaped Jeff’s radical portfolio vision 🌍 7:58 Why crypto’s value is clearer outside privileged financial systems 🚀 15:18 Why Jeff is so bullish on STRK and what it represents 🌐 20:56 What it means to be “living in a Bitcoin-only world” 💥 27:42 Why the U.S. is vulnerable and what’s the new American Dream 🤝 32:36 What Jeff would do if he were in Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s position  🇯🇵 39:16 Why Jeff sees Japan as a critical piece of the global financial order 💵 48:36 Why stablecoins could be the U.S.’s most powerful financial weapon 🤔 54:50 Why Jeff is skeptical about a U.S. bitcoin reserve 🏛️ 59:14 Whether Bitcoin treasury companies are here to stay Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

10 Juni 1h 10min

On Tuesday, a pseudonymous X account claimed that Pump.fun, Solana’s breakout memecoin launchpad, would raise $1 billion via an ICO at a $4 billion valuation. The potential deal? Multiple CEX listings, a 10% community airdrop, and maybe even a launch by the end of the month. The community reaction? Not great. In this episode, Syncracy Capital’s Ryan Watkins joins to break down the backlash, whether the raise makes sense, and what this kind of fundraising says about the current state of crypto. He discusses: Whether Pump needs $1 billion and what they’d even do with it Why some people are furious, even as Pump prints revenue If this is bullish or bearish for Solana Why an airdrop was not pursued Whether the $4 billion valuation makes sense Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Ledn FalconX Human Rights Foundation Ryan Watkins, Co-founder of Syncracy Capital Unchained: Pump.fun Mulls $1B Token Sale Nextfckingthing’s tweet breaking the news  Ansem’s tweet on “pump fun raising $1B at $4B after Trumpcoin launch is like the second plane hitting the towers” Ansem’s poll Ryan’s tweet on “Pump anger”  Solojay tweet on Pump’s top 25 wallets Mosi’s tweet on why “Pump's ICO seems like an asymmetric bet (skewed to the downside)” Timestamps: 👋 0:00 Intro 🤔 4:03 Why skepticism around Pump.fun’s $1B raise is valid 💰 7:06 What Pump would even do with $1 billion 📈 21:17 Whether a $4B valuation actually holds up 🔥 24:08 Will this ICO hurt SOL? 🎁 27:05 Why Pump chose not to do a big airdrop 📱 28:56 Whether Pump.fun can hold its ground as SocialFi competition heats up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

6 Juni 57min

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, the crew tackles a triple-header of crypto’s growing pains: the bizarre saga of James Wynn—a memecoin gambler whose billion-dollar positions on Hyperliquid ended in public ruin; the Ethereum Foundation’s surprise rebrand into “Protocol” and its sudden embrace of hierarchy; and a bold manifesto from Miles Jennings calling for the end of crypto foundations as we know them. Is radical transparency a feature or a trap? Is Ethereum finally prioritizing execution over vibes? And are foundations just offshore theater—or necessary guardians of decentralization? The gang debates all this and more in a conversation that asks: who’s really in control of crypto—and should they be? Show highlights 🔹 James Wynn: From $1B to $16 – The infamous Hyperliquid trader wipes out, then begs for donations… and opens new positions days later 🔹 Liquidation Theater – Was Wynn’s downfall market manipulation, a psyop, or just crypto doing what it always does? 🔹 Hyperliquid Transparency Debate – CZ, Jump, and Hyperliquid clash over whether radical openness helps or harms 🔹 Stop-Hunting Season – Tarun explains why onchain liquidation is more deterministic—but not necessarily more malicious 🔹 Ethereum Foundation Rebrands – Meet “Protocol”: a new structure, a new strategy, and maybe… a new hierarchy 🔹 The End of Purge & Surge – Is Ethereum finally abandoning the meme roadmap and focusing on shipping? 🔹 Tim Beiko’s New Role – A surprising centralization of coordination—and why the ETH community seems to like it 🔹 DUCS vs. DUNA – The crew proposes a new Ethereum acronym—and debates Miles Jennings’ push to end the foundation model 🔹 Are Foundations Just Offshore Theater? – Haseeb argues it’s time to kill the Cayman entity and rethink DAO legal structures 🔹 The Legal Marketing Wars – Tarun and Tom debate whether crypto’s governance evolution is genuine—or just “intellectual shilling” ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  The end of the foundation era in crypto by Miles Jenningshttps://a16zcrypto.com/posts/article/end-foundation-era-crypto/ Announcing Protocol by Barnabé Monnot, Tim Beiko, Alex Stokes https://blog.ethereum.org/2025/06/02/announcing-protocol Timestamps 00:00 Intro 02:12 The Saga of James Wynn 06:20 Market Manipulation vs. Transparency 17:37 57, Tarun’s Favorite Number 20:12 EF's “Protocol” 33:45 DUCS! Decentralization, UX, Censorship Resistance, and Scaling 36:55 The End of the Foundation Era 45:04 The Role of Legal Structures in Crypto 52:49 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

5 Juni 1h 2min

The Bitcoin Conference in Vegas is getting more political. Crypto treasury companies are exploding across the globe. And macro markets are flashing mixed signals, with geopolitics entering the chat. In this episode of Bits + Bips, the panel dives into: Key takeaways from Bitcoin 2025 The possible bubble forming around Bitcoin treasuries How the SEC is fighting back against staking in ETFs Whether Ethereum is finally catching up How Ukraine just redefined trade risks Why ETFs have seen so much inflows since the market bottom How AI will impact growth and the job market And … why James hates Las Vegas 😀 Thank you to our sponsor! Bitwise James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Joe McCann, Founder, CEO, and CIO of Asymmetric Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  WSJ: Bitcoin Goes All In on MAGA, Shedding Its Antigovernment Slant Unchained:  Pakistan Sets up Strategic Bitcoin Reserve Crypto Treasury Companies Are All the Rage. Could They Cause an Industry Collapse? Decrypt: Another Bitcoin Buyer? Nasdaq-Listed Reitar Logtech Plans $1.5 Billion BTC Purchase The Defiant: Trump Media Closes Roughly $2.4 Billion Financing to Establish Corporate Bitcoin Treasury Bloomberg: SEC Flags Concerns on Crypto ETFs Offering Staking Rewards The Guardian: Ukraine launches major drone attack on Russian bombers, security official says   Timestamps: 0:00 👋 Intro 2:02 🎰 - Why James hates Vegas, but was impressed with Bitcoin 2025 4:48 🐘 - Has bitcoin moved too far right politically? 10:02 📈📉 - If bitcoin treasuries are all the rage, why isn’t the price moving? 13:26 🌍 - One big reason why the treasury bubble differs from SPACs 18:26 📉 - Are these companies destined to implode? 22:55 🤔 - One big (but hidden) opportunity to profit from this market 34:23 🏦 - How some ETF issuers tried (and failed) to pull one over on the SEC 43:19 🤐 - Why James sees one quiet, but bullish, trend in ETF flows 47:48 🌎 - Why Noelle thinks that numbers don’t matter - it's all about geopolitics 58:10 🐂 - Ram sees a secretly bullish setup. Here’s how he says to play it 1:07:33 💻 - How AI is going to eat the world, and turn markets upside down Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

4 Juni 1h 20min

Jeff Park thinks the most popular investing strategy of the last decades — the 60/40 portfolio — is dead. Jeff has spent his early career inside the traditional system. But now, after two years in finance, he’s calling for a full rethink of the modern portfolio: from what counts as “safe” to how inflation actually works to why Bitcoin may be the real anchor asset in a world that’s spinning off its axis. In this episode, the first in a two-part series, he and Laura dig into: Why the 60/40 portfolio is quietly failing What the rise of “resistance” assets says about trust in institutions Why STRK and BTC are the distillation of Jeff’s radical portfolio How traditional finance may be more correlated to crypto than you think Why “time is liquid energy” and bitcoin is so valuable Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Xapo Bank Bitwise Jeff Park, Head of Alpha Strategies at Bitwise The Radical Portfolio Theory by Jeff Park Unchained: DeFi Leverage on Apollo’s $1.3 Billion Credit Fund Timestamps: 👋 0:00 Intro 🧠 2:19 How entering the workforce in 2008 pushed Jeff to question everything, even the dollar 🏛️ 14:31 Jeff’s role as head of alpha strategies at Bitwise 📉 17:27 Why the classic 60/40 portfolio may be dead 🌍 34:10 How crypto fits into the new financial world ⚡ 40:58 Why “time is liquid energy” and bitcoin captures it best 📊 41:52 The core of Jeff’s radical portfolio theory 🛡️ 54:44 What goes into the “resistance” asset bucket 🎯 59:00 Why prediction markets could diversify your income 💎 1:09:52 Why Jeff is betting big on Strategy’s STRK and BTC 👑 1:14:31 The rise of crypto treasury companies and whether they pose systemic risk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

3 Juni 1h 24min

Public crypto treasury companies are in the news right now. Just this week, Sharplink Gaming announced a $425 million raise to create an Ethereum treasury vehicle, backed by Consensys. Meanwhile, Trump Media said it will buy $2.5 billion worth of bitcoin. And in a headline grab, GameStop revealed a $500 million Bitcoin purchase. There’s even a newly launched XRP treasury company backed by Saudi royal capital. But why are these vehicles suddenly the structure of choice for accessing crypto exposure? What kinds of assets are best suited for them? And are they safe or a ticking time bomb? Pantera Capital’s Cosmo Jiang joins Unchained to unpack: The structures and strategies behind these companies Why Solana is appearing more than Ethereum (and what that says) How XRP’s brand power could matter more than its adoption The risks these vehicles pose to investors and to markets Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Bitkey: Use code UNCHAINED for 20% off Focal by FalconX Guest Cosmo Jiang, General Partner and Portfolio Manager for Liquid Strategies at Pantera Capital Links Previous coverage of Unchained on bitcoin treasury companies: Why Twenty One Capital Is More About Volatility Than Bitcoin Twenty One Aims to Buy as Much Bitcoin as Possible. Can It Succeed? Unchained:  Trump Media Confirms $2.5B Capital Raise to Buy Bitcoin Consensys Leads $425M Raise for SharpLink Gaming’s ETH Treasury Plans The Block: GameStop buys 4,710 bitcoin for corporate treasury: filing CoinDesk: VivoPower Raises $121M to Launch XRP Treasury Strategy With Saudi Royal Backing Bloomberg:  Cantor’s $2 Billion Bitcoin-Backed Lending Arm Makes First Deals The Stock Market Loves Bitcoin Timestamps: 👋 0:00 Intro 📈 1:57 Why crypto treasury companies are suddenly everywhere 🏗️ 5:03 How these vehicles are structured to raise and deploy capital 🎲 8:36 Which strategies carry more risk for investors 🔍 9:57 Pure-play crypto vs. operational businesses: what works better 💰 12:40 Why these companies often trade at a premium to their crypto 🔥 16:56 Why there’s more buzz around SOL than ETH in these structures 📣 19:44 How XRP treasury plays are unique … but tied to marketing, not tech 🙋‍♂️ 21:31 Why some investors prefer these stocks over holding actual tokens ⚠️ 24:12 Could these companies pose systemic risks to crypto markets? 📊 27:58 The key metrics to watch when valuing crypto treasury companies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

30 Maj 42min