KubeCon Special Episode: Managing the Tension between Product and Project with Bobby DeSimone
The Business of Open Source4 Dec 2024

KubeCon Special Episode: Managing the Tension between Product and Project with Bobby DeSimone

Who pays for the future of infrastructure? In this special episode, I spoke to Bobby DeSimone, founder and CEO of Pomerium, about how he feels like infrastructure and security both have to be open source — but then, what does that mean about the future of the financial support for infrastructure and security?


We talked about:


  • The importance for customers, especially early customers, of being able to do code audits early in the buying cycle — and Bobby thought that just a BSL license would not have been enough.
  • We talked tension between project and product 😳 my favorite topic. If you’re curious, I did a talk at All Things Open on the subject, one that was sadly not recorded :( but you can reach out if you want the slides.
  • How Pomerium manages that tension, both internally and externally. There are open source purists as well as cutthroat capitalists. Bobby describes it as making a bet on the middle.



If managing product-project tension is something you’re struggling with, reach out, you might want to work with me.


And if you want more conversations about the unique aspects of open source businesses, you should come to Open Source Founders Summit this May. Join the mailing list to find out as soon as tickets are available.

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