Who Will Mourn DEI?
What Next28 Jan 2025

Who Will Mourn DEI?

The Trump administration’s fight against diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs is underway, and it’s proving to be even broader and further-reaching than anticipated. What’s at stake for these programs—and why are so many Americans glad to see them go?


Guest: Farah Stockman, member of the New York Times Editorial Board, author of American Made: What Happens to People When Work Disappears


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Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther.

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2024 in Review: Wait, Is JUUL Banned or Not?

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2024 in Review: Would You Die For MrBeast?

2024 in Review: Would You Die For MrBeast?

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TBD | Influencer vs. Influencer

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Influencer vs. Influencer

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Drones!??!!!?!!!

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Can More Grocery Stores Fix Food Deserts?

Can More Grocery Stores Fix Food Deserts?

How do you keep a grocery store open in a small or low-income community? The answer might involve regulating big box stores like Walmart and Kroger.Guest: Molly Parker, investigative reporter for Capitol News Illinois and a Local Reporting Network fellow at ProPublica.Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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How Trump Got ABC to Pay Up

How Trump Got ABC to Pay Up

What ABC’s huge defamation settlement with Donald Trump says about the state of the media, heading into Trump’s second term. Guest: David Folkenflik, media correspondent for NPR.Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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