381 - James Orr - Christianity Beyond Civilization

381 - James Orr - Christianity Beyond Civilization

I had a wonderful discussion with James Orr. Dr Orr is Associate Professor of Philosophy of Religion at the Faculty of Divinity at the University of Cambridge. He was also one of the panel members for the Daily Wire Plus Exodus and Gospels seminars, which we discuss in this video. We also talk about our difference approaches and perspectives on Scripture, the current cultural shift and Christianity becoming more mainstream, the risk of instrumentalizing Christianity, Paul Kingsnorth's talk "Against Christian Civilization", and more.

Watch the Gospel Seminar on Daily Wire Plus: https://www.dailywire.com/show/the-gospels

My discussion with Paul Kingsnorth, Western Civilization Is Already Dead: https://youtu.be/FrjdaVol2TA?si=D6A3mm3WXj5f2i4W

Paul Kingsnorth’s First Things talk: "Against Christian Civilization" | 2024 Erasmus Lecture: https://www.youtube.com/live/Y3hMSZqatHI

James Orr links:
- https://www.divinity.cam.ac.uk/directory/dr-james-orr
- https://x.com/jtworr

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00:00 - Coming up
00:47 - Intro music
01:11 - Introduction
01:57 - James' reaction to The Gospels seminar
05:04 - JBP mediating the panel discussion
09:25 - Members of the panel
11:55 - Approaching Scripture from different perspectives
15:23 - James' scholarly approach vs Jonathan's analogical approach
20:37 - A time of flux
28:18 - Paul Kingsnorth's First Things address
32:44 - Instrumentalizing Christianity
38:52 - Self-sacrificial love
41:39 - Recognize weaponized compassion
43:11 - Fetishizing weakness?
48:22 - The end of the story
51:34 - Technology
54:45 - New people coming to church

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9 - Milo, Jordan Peterson and The Symbolic Worldview. Discussing with Rachel Fulton Brown

9 - Milo, Jordan Peterson and The Symbolic Worldview. Discussing with Rachel Fulton Brown

Rachel Fulton Brown is a Medievalist and a tenured Professor at the University of Chicago. We discuss her friendship with Milo Yiannopoulos, her interest in Jordan Peterson and what such figures might mean in a time of chaos. --------------------------------------------------------- My links: patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathanpageau twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauCarvings Links for Rachel Fulton Brown: -Rachel Fulton Brown's homepage: http://home.uchicago.edu/~rfulton/index.html -Her forthcoming book on "Mary and the Art of Prayer": https://www.amazon.com/Mary-Art-Prayer-Medieval-Christian/dp/023118168X/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1499396548&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=futon+brown+mary+art+of+prayer -Her "Fencing Bear at Prayer" blog: http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/ Blog posts we talked about: -"Kung Fu Milo" (on Milo and the Kung Fu Panda): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2016/11/kung-fu-milo.html -"God's Fools" (on Milo, Francis, and Jesus): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/02/gods-fools.html - "Signed with the Cross" (on Jordan Peterson's understanding of the role of Christ as Hero): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/05/signed-with-cross.html - "St. Milo the Dangerous and the Dragon of Chaos" (on Fencing Bear's story about her relationship with Milo and the way he embodies the Hero archetype): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/07/st-milo-dangerous-and-dragon-of-chaos.html

24 Juli 20181h 26min

8- Shrek | When the Margin Wins

8- Shrek | When the Margin Wins

Comparing the symbolism of center and periphery between the movie "Shrek" and the Greek play "The Bacchae" by Euripides. I then show how it relates to the changes happening in our world. The original video can be found here: https://youtu.be/WCFLbmAJ2Uc patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan

16 Juli 201817min

7 - Symbolic vs Literal Interpretation of The Bible

7 - Symbolic vs Literal Interpretation of The Bible

I explore the false opposition between the symbolic and literal interpretation of Bible stories using a typical letter I have received from someone who is struggling with their faith and with what they find in the Bible.

2 Juli 201814min

6- Symbolism in Guardians of The Galaxy vol.2

6- Symbolism in Guardians of The Galaxy vol.2

I give a symbolic interpretation of Guardians of the Galaxy vol.2 as well as a general interpretation of Super Heroes and their relationship to the margin and to identity in general.

21 Juni 201819min

5- The Metaphysics Of Pepe - with Jordan Peterson

5- The Metaphysics Of Pepe - with Jordan Peterson

In this episode I am putting up a discussion surrounding all the strange occurrences that appeared regarding Jordan Peterson and the Pepe the frog meme in 2016 near the time of the election of Donald Trump. I also have added an introduction which gives some of the context out of which the analysis was born.

12 Juni 201839min

4- Tradition and Things That Don't Fit - With Jordan Peterson

4- Tradition and Things That Don't Fit - With Jordan Peterson

In the first public discussion I had with Jordan Peterson, we discuss art and the chaotic buffer which appears between categories. This was recorded a few weeks after the gender pronoun situation exploded around Jordan Peterson.

1 Juni 201840min

3 - Encountering God in Stories

3 - Encountering God in Stories

The patterns in stories appear as their underlying order and also as a mode of human consciousness. One can encounter the Divine Logos in ancient stories and how these culminate in the story of Christ. A text version of this talk can be found here: https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/divine-patterns-in-story-and-image/ This talk was given in Feb. 2017 at the Climacus Conference in Louisville Kentucky. http://www.climacusconference.org/

28 Maj 201841min

2- Sacred Symbol, Sacred Art

2- Sacred Symbol, Sacred Art

This is a talk looking at the differences between traditional and contemporary art as well as exploring the symbolic structures and purpose of traditional art. This talk was originally given at King's University College in London Ontario in 2015.

21 Maj 20181h 2min

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