Wicked Problems - Climate Tech Conversations6 Apr 2025

How to Live in a Chaotic Climate

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Do you need some Zen? I need a bit of that or something, just to get my head right. So we spoke with LaUra Schmidt, one-half of the dynamic duo of climate psychology along with her Good Grief Network co-founder and wife Aimee Lewis Reau, who wrote How to Live in a Chaotic Climate that was published a little over a year ago. And blimey we need more of their coping strategies than we ever thought we would when the book first came out.

We get into climate grief, trauma, and resilience with Schmidt. We argue the challenges of individual versus collective climate action, the science and spiritual dimensions of environmental advocacy, and the importance of community in building resilience.

Schmidt shares insights from her experiences growing up in rural Michigan, studying Buddhism, biology, and environmental science, and her efforts to help people cope with the emotional toll of climate change through the Good Grief Network's 10-step program.

We also touch on the significance of finding meaning, joy, and humor amidst the chaos, while preparing for an uncertain future.

02:12 Conversation with Laura Schmidt

04:53 Laura's Background and Motivations

16:09 The Good Grief Network

24:56 The Long Dark: Seeds of Creativity

25:37 Ancient Wisdom and Cultural Narratives

29:29 Stories of Resilience and Human Agency

31:05 The Role of Community in Modern Times

38:13 Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts

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