The Upside Of Tariffs

The Upside Of Tariffs

Maybe Trump doesn’t care if the economy tanks—maybe he believes he can play it all to his advantage. And maybe, through a lot of pain, this is the only way America’s going to learn its lesson.


Guest: Jonathan Last, editor of The Bulwark


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