390 - Genesis: Symbolism in the Creation Story

390 - Genesis: Symbolism in the Creation Story

This is a talk I did a few years ago for the Jung Society of Montreal. In it I explore the creation story in Genesis not just as myth, but as a fractal map of how identity, being, and purpose function. In breaking down the symbolism I also make a case for why intelligence isn’t an accident, why rituals matter, and why participation of intelligent beings is foundational to reality. In the Q&A section we touch on group identity, exclusion, dreams, and the meaning of the Last Judgment among other topics. I hope this lecture gives you a sense of the tone and depth of our upcoming Symbolism Masterclass. If you want to learn more, register today.
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YouTube version: https://youtu.be/YArpxigY5xY?si=QrMqUuJixHQ3DnXy
Original video published by Jordan Peterson: https://youtu.be/ZQ43i5nKuZk?si=XB-bgj9VMc0NxBdT

Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:01 - Intro music
02:26 - Observing the observer
08:06 - Ritual and a return to ancient thinking
13:58 - Ritual in groups
21:34 - The argument
27:49 - The start of Genesis
36:39 - And God said
42:06 - Vegetation
44:30 - The sun, moon, and stars
45:49 - Creatures of the sea
49:32 - Animals
51:57 - The creation of man
56:28 - Genesis 2
59:43 - The center of the world
06:42 - Iconographic examples
12:39 - Questions from JBP
18:22 - Q: Elaborate on what you mean with "above" and "below"
20:15 - Q: Are people who try to tame wild animals violating the pattern you pointed out?
21:51 - Q: How sure are you of the heaven and earth distinction?
25:36 - Q: What's the meaning of when God says man is very good and everything else good?
30:03 - Comment about Jung
31:24 - Q: How did Darwin bring Plato back?
37:03 - Q: How would you work with exclusion / inclusion patterns in these times?
48:51 - Q: What's the intelligence of dreams?
51:45 - Q: If the teleological patterns of being constitute heaven, what is the abode of the human soul?

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16- Symbolism In The Book Of Genesis - With Matthieu Pageau

16- Symbolism In The Book Of Genesis - With Matthieu Pageau

With Matthieu Pageau we discuss symbolism in the creation story told in Genesis and how it relates to consciousness, the problem of self-reference and how true symbolism usually appears in a fractal structure of microcosms and macrocosm. The problem of science and rationality is that by emphasizing materiality and reason it often struggles with the paradox of self-reference and self-causality, just as it struggles with the problem of the justification for hierarchical structures of value. These two issues are related through the fact of consciousness and self-awareness. Though science struggles to include the consciousness of the viewer in its general calculation, this is something that is done very well in traditional cosmologies through a series of self-replicating patterns which are embedded into each other somewhat like a fractal pattern. Matthieu's book is now out: The Language of Creation Original video: https://youtu.be/Q1-vG-bLDwE Support this channel: patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos paypal: paypal.me/JonathanPageau website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathanpageau twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauCarvings

19 Sep 201846min

15- On How We Dehumanize

15- On How We Dehumanize

The manner in which we dehumanize others in social discourse is broken down and analyzed, and ultimately we see that both sides of the political spectrum use similar dehumanizing tactics without knowing it. Original video: https://youtu.be/K0LU4IKty8Y My links: patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos paypal: https://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathanpageau twitter: https://twitter.com/pageaujonathan

6 Sep 201840min

14- Intersectionality Individuality And The Hero - With Jordan Peterson

14- Intersectionality Individuality And The Hero - With Jordan Peterson

This is a discussion I had with Jordan Peterson on Nov. 14, 2017 in which he called me in the morning and we began looking at several ideas together. ------------------------------- Original video on Jordan Peterson's channel: https://youtu.be/E5F4oOlAK8w Original description: I woke up at about five thirty this morning to a flood of ideas dealing with the emergence of what has been called "intersectionality" in the postmodern/identity politics world. Intersectionality is a movement based on the observation that the standard identity groups (race and gender, for example) don't sufficiently capture the variability in oppression that characterizes those who fit into both categories simultaneously (say, black woman). I realized that the intersection of six or more categories of variation (depending on the degree of differentiation) would produce "groups" of only one individual. In that manner, the idea of the individual is necessarily making its comeback in the ideologies of collectivism that characterize so much modern thinking. It's an inversion, an indication of our upside down world. Many more ideas came along with that one, some associated with the idea of categorization and the ideal (in a religious and symbolic sense). I decided to contact Jonathan Pageau, who is the embodied intersection of French Canadian, artist, orthodox icon carver, male, expert on postmodernism, and bearded, as I couldn't easily think of anyone else to talk to about such things. I didn't edit it at all.... ------------------------------- My links: patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos paypal: https://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathanpageau twitter: https://twitter.com/pageaujonathan

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13- What Is Symbolism - With Matthieu Pageau

13- What Is Symbolism - With Matthieu Pageau

Discussing what symbolism is with Matthieu Pageau, the author of "The Language of Creation: Cosmic Symbolism in Genesis." Original video: https://youtu.be/0VIRA6T33o4 My links: patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos website: www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: www.facebook.com/jonathanpageau twitter: twitter.com/PageauJonathan

22 Aug 20181h 9min

12- Pentecost For The Zombie Apocalypse

12- Pentecost For The Zombie Apocalypse

This talk was given at the 40th annual conference for the Diocese of the South in the Orthodox Church of America with the blessing of Archbishop Alexander Golitzin. The original video: https://youtu.be/zXOdlIXDsr8 Transcript of the talk: https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/pentecost-for-the-zombie-apocalypse/ For more on the icon of St-Christopher: https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/the-icon-of-st-christopher/ The original audio was recorded by Ancient Faith Radio: https://www.ancientfaith.com/specials/2017_assembly_of_the_diocese_of_the_orthodox_church_in_america/pentecost_for_the_zombie_apocalypse My links: patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos website: www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/PageauJonathan

16 Aug 201859min

11- How Science Is Nested In Religion

11- How Science Is Nested In Religion

he flat quantifiable world described by the scientific method is necessarily contained in the ontological hierarchy described by religion. Original video: https://youtu.be/1w7TQ1KqaBY My links: patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan For more on ancient cosmology, please read my article "Where is Heaven?": https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/where-is-heaven/

9 Aug 201824min

10- Divine Patterns In The Life Of Moses

10- Divine Patterns In The Life Of Moses

Looking at the story of the life of Moses as described by St-Gregory of Nyssa, I use the pattern found there y to trace a map of the cosmos which can be used to interpret other stories and images. This is the second part of a talk. The first part is here: https://soundcloud.com/jonathan-pageau-307491252/3-encountering-god-in-stories https://youtu.be/3pyYT8AFR-4 A transcript with images can be found here: https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/divine-patterns-in-the-life-of-moses/ Original video: https://youtu.be/-drIcL5bkpk My links: patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathanpageau twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan This talk was given in Feb. 2017 at the Climacus Conference in Louisville Kentucky. http://www.climacusconference.org/ The original audio was taken from Ancient Faith Radio: http://www.ancientfaith.com/specials/...

1 Aug 201844min

9 - Milo, Jordan Peterson and The Symbolic Worldview. Discussing with Rachel Fulton Brown

9 - Milo, Jordan Peterson and The Symbolic Worldview. Discussing with Rachel Fulton Brown

Rachel Fulton Brown is a Medievalist and a tenured Professor at the University of Chicago. We discuss her friendship with Milo Yiannopoulos, her interest in Jordan Peterson and what such figures might mean in a time of chaos. --------------------------------------------------------- My links: patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathanpageau twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauCarvings Links for Rachel Fulton Brown: -Rachel Fulton Brown's homepage: http://home.uchicago.edu/~rfulton/index.html -Her forthcoming book on "Mary and the Art of Prayer": https://www.amazon.com/Mary-Art-Prayer-Medieval-Christian/dp/023118168X/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1499396548&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=futon+brown+mary+art+of+prayer -Her "Fencing Bear at Prayer" blog: http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/ Blog posts we talked about: -"Kung Fu Milo" (on Milo and the Kung Fu Panda): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2016/11/kung-fu-milo.html -"God's Fools" (on Milo, Francis, and Jesus): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/02/gods-fools.html - "Signed with the Cross" (on Jordan Peterson's understanding of the role of Christ as Hero): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/05/signed-with-cross.html - "St. Milo the Dangerous and the Dragon of Chaos" (on Fencing Bear's story about her relationship with Milo and the way he embodies the Hero archetype): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/07/st-milo-dangerous-and-dragon-of-chaos.html

24 Juli 20181h 26min

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