AudioBlog (Part I & II) APRO, MUFON, and the Cash-Landrum Case

AudioBlog (Part I & II) APRO, MUFON, and the Cash-Landrum Case

After Project Blue Book was shut down in 1969, private UFO groups were the only organizations left in the U.S. that would take UFO reports, and the two biggest were the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena and the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization. Donald Keyhoe was ousted as NICAP’s director just three days before the December 17, 1969, press release announcing Blue Book’s termination, and NICAP quickly became a shadow of its former self while APRO, run by its founders Jim and Coral Lorenzen, remained a formidable and influential organization. That same year, a group of APRO investigators living in the Midwest organized by Walt Andrus as the Tri State Study Group, decided on May 31st to branch off from APRO and operate as the Midwest UFO Network. This was in reaction to the Lorenzens’ move towards a more centralized management strategy seeking to direct all field investigations from their office in Tucson, Arizona. The Lorenzens, particularly Coral, who had a reputation for being contentious (she frequently took out her ire in the pages of the APRO Bulletin, and her earliest targets as far back as 1952 were Albert K. Bender and James W. Moseley) took the Midwestern group’s decision personally and held a grudge for years to come. The Midwest UFO Network soon outgrew its Midwestern boundaries and the name was changed to the Mutual UFO Network in 1973. A rivalry developed between the two, and this resulted in clashes when they happened to converge on a given case, and a prime example of this is the 1981 Cash-Landrum case. Read more →

Part II
n last week’s blog, we began looking at documents that provide a behind the scenes look at the rivalry between the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization and the Mutual UFO Network. APRO was founded in 1952 by Coral and Jim Lorenzen and MUFON was founded in 1969 by members who split off from APRO amidst bad feelings. Things came to a head during the investigation of the 1981 Cash-Landrum incident. As it was reported to have taken place in Huffman, Texas, APRO handed the case over to the director of the Houston-based Vehicle Internal Systems Investigative Team, John Schuessler, who was also the deputy director of MUFON. Coral wrote an article one and a half years after the reported incident that was published in the June 1982 Vol 30, No. 6 APRO Bulletin headlined “Rumors Permeate Cash-Landrum Case” wherein she claimed to know that what witnesses Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum, and Colby Landrum saw was a “U.S. experimental aircraft.” She also insinuated that Schuessler, MUFON director Walt Andrus, and former Project Blue Book consultant and founding director of the Center for UFO Studies J. Allen Hynek were part of a cover-up as they all had ties to various government organizations. Schuessler responded with a five-page letter to Jim Lorenzen defending himself and pleaded that if APRO had real knowledge of what it was the witnesses saw, he should share it as all three witnesses, particularly Betty Cash, seemed to have suffered the effects of radiation poisoning. This week, we’ll begin with Coral’s response. Read more →

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700. Jensine Andresen

700. Jensine Andresen

Join Martin Willis in a groundbreaking conversation with Jensine Andresen, PhD, a scholar whose work bridges religion, philosophy, ethics, and the mysteries of UFO/UAP and extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI). In this interview, we explore: What “Acculturation with ETI” means and why it matters for humanity’s future. How UAP and ETI discussions intersect with geopolitics, including the risks and realities tied to nuclear weapons. Why our current data-centric and militarized approach to the phenomenon may blind us to deeper truths. Why Dr. Andresen is adamant the visitors are extraterrestrial—and the theoretical mechanisms she believes could allow them to traverse the vast distances to reach us. The potential for creative engagement with ETI to transform human institutions, ethics, and global society. Dr. Andresen challenges conventional thinking and offers bold perspectives on how contact with ETI could reshape not only our science, but also our politics, spirituality, and collective future.SHOW NOTESSupport the Show & Stay Connected!👉 Join us on Patreon — Get ad-free podcast episodes (for any media player) for as little as $2/month:https://www.patreon.com/MartinWillisPodcastUFO🛸Did you have a UFO/UAP Encounter? Leave Us a Voicemail: https://podcastufo.com/ufo-sightings/ufo-encounter-voicemail🧢 Podcast UFO Merch (Shirts, Hats & More): https://tinyurl.com/mrybmnwb📬 FREE Sign Up for Our Weekly Newsletter — Get updates on upcoming guests, blog posts, and more:http://eepurl.com/LPHKD🌐 Our Website:https://podcastufo.com📱 Follow us on Social Media:Twitter (X): https://x.com/PodcastUFOFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/PodcastUFO📺 Subscribe on YouTube (It’s Free!):https://www.youtube.com/user/PodcastUFO?sub_confirmation=1

3 Okt 56min

699. Nugent Cantileno

699. Nugent Cantileno

In this episode, Martin Willis speaks with producer Nugent Cantileno, who shares a remarkable story from his early career as a Fox News intern in 2009. While working on an Apollo 11 documentary, Nugent accidentally came across raw NASA footage that seemed to capture something extraordinary—audio of an astronaut mentioning a UFO and visuals of a perfectly round, fast-moving object crossing Earth’s surface. Nugent describes the moment he realized he wasn’t supposed to see the clip, how his skeptical boss reacted, and his later attempts to track down the same footage online. He also shares his broader thoughts on UFOs, from interdimensional and spiritual interpretations to the role of AI in modern disclosure, plus his own personal sightings. This conversation goes beyond one startling tape—it’s about how personal experience, research, and changing attitudes have shaped Nugent’s perspective on the UFO/UAP mystery.SHOW NOTES

1 Okt 40min

AudioBlog: The 1979 UFO Case of Val Johnson

AudioBlog: The 1979 UFO Case of Val Johnson

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear In August 1979, a case out of Minnesota that was chock full of trace evidence, including physical effects displayed by the witness in the aftermath, was investigated by Allen Hendry for the Center for UFO Studies. The incident and the related activity are described two days afterwards in the August 29, 1979, edition of the local Warren, Minnesota, Sheaf.According to the article (page 8 of the pdf) headlined “Deputy Johnson Stunned by UFO Monday Morning,” Marshall County Deputy Sheriff Val Johnson was in his patrol car about 11 miles west of Stephen, Minnesota, headed south on TH 220 just before 1:30 am when he saw a bright light about a mile away, hovering over the road. Thinking it might be an aircraft in distress, he sped up.As he did so, the light came towards him, and as it filled the interior of the car, he heard the sound of glass breaking. He lost consciousness and remembered nothing of about 40 minutes after that. The Warren Sheriff’s office received a 1088 (officer in distress) from Johnson at 2:19 am, and he is described as having sounded rational but disoriented. When he was asked about his situation he said, “Something just hit my car – strange. Something attacked my car – brakes locked up. I don’t know what is going on.” He was asked if he needed an ambulance and replied, “I don’t think so. I don’t think I’m leaking blood. My eyes hurt.” Read more →

29 Sep 7min

AudioBlog Part III The Case of Piero Fortunato Zanfretta

AudioBlog Part III The Case of Piero Fortunato Zanfretta

This is the last of a three-part series of blogs covering the case of an Italian security guard (with the company Val Bisagno), Piero Fortunato Zanfretta, who reported a number of encounters with UFOs and their occupants.  After the first incident, he described in conscious recall being confronted by “an enormous green, ugly and frightful creature, with undulating skin, no less than ten feet tall.” Under hypnosis the story came out that he was taken up into a craft where he was interrogated and examined by as many as ten creatures “about 10 feet tall, with hairy green skin, yellow triangular eyes and red veins across the forehead” with metal strips over their mouths. He said they told him they were from the “third galaxy,” wanted to talk to the people of Earth, and would return soon in greater numbers. Italian journalist Rino Di Stefano became interested in the case, stuck with it, and wrote a book about it titled The Zanfretta Case, first published in Italian in 1984 and then in English in 2014. The reader can refer to his website promoting the book for most of the information. What makes this case unique is that there is corroborating evidence in the form of possible landing traces, giant footprints, witness testimony from his co-workers, and observations made during the investigation by the Italian military police known there as the Carabinieri. Read more →

28 Sep 8min

AudioBlog: PART II: The Case of Piero Fortunato Zanfretta

AudioBlog: PART II: The Case of Piero Fortunato Zanfretta

In the last blog, we looked at the first two UFO and occupant encounters reported by Italian security guard Piero Fortunato Zanfretta. The case was investigated by the Carabinieri (Italian Military Police) and evidence was found in the form of possible landing traces in the first and second instances with the addition of huge footprints in the second. In conscious recall, Zanfretta described encountering “an enormous green, ugly and frightful creature, with undulating skin, no less than ten feet tall.” Under hypnosis after the first instance, he said he was taken to a bright, hot place and examined by “monsters about 10 feet tall, with hairy green skin, yellow triangular eyes and red veins across the forehead” (he also described them having metal strips over their mouths) that told him they were from the “third galaxy,” wanted to talk to the people of Earth, and would return soon in greater numbers. Italian journalist Rino Di Stefano became interested in the case, stuck with it, and wrote a book about it titled The Zanfretta Case, first published in Italian in 1984 and then in English in 2014. The reader can refer to his website promoting the book for most of the information. Read more →

28 Sep 8min

AudioBlog: The Case of Piero Fortunato Zanfretta

AudioBlog: The Case of Piero Fortunato Zanfretta

In the last couple of blogs, we looked at the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena 1978 UFO Chronology, which was unusual for the large number of humanoid reports with space suits, helmets and antennas in the descriptions. We also noted that there seemed to have been a flap in Italy in December and that one case listed that month is worthy of individual attention. The principal witness/experiencer was Piero Fortunato Zanfretta, and his story was investigated by Italian journalist Rino Di Stefano, who wrote a book about it that he published in 2014 titled The Zanfretta Case. Read more →

28 Sep 7min

AudioBlog: Conscious Recall vs Hypnotic Regression

AudioBlog: Conscious Recall vs Hypnotic Regression

It has been determined by many researchers in the scientific community that during hypnosis, false memories are very likely to be generated, and distinguishing them from real memories is difficult, if not impossible without some means of confirmation. This is, for instance, the conclusion of a report for the U.S. Department of Justice by Martin T. Orne et al. titled “Hypnotically Refreshed Testimony: Enhanced Memory or Tampering with Evidence?” published January 1985 in Issues and Practices in Criminal Justice. With the above in mind, it is helpful for researchers attempting to evaluate a case when a distinction can be made between elements of the report derived from conscious recall and elements derived through the use of hypnosis. A case where this can be easily done is that of Judy Kendell of Zamora, California, thanks to a newspaper article announcing her intention to undergo hypnosis to recover around four hours of missing time, and another article in a different paper after the procedure, which was, apparently, well attended. Read more →

26 Sep 8min

698. Travis Walton 50th Anniversary

698. Travis Walton 50th Anniversary

Coming up on the 50th anniversary of his November 5, 1975 encounter, Travis Walton joins host Martin Willis to reflect on five decades of scrutiny, support, and unanswered questions—and to preview the Skyfire Summit in Sedona, Arizona, October 17–20, 2025. We discuss the original events in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest, the aftermath for the logging crew, polygraph tests and media storms, evolving interpretations over the years, and what Travis hopes researchers, experiencers, and the public will take away from this milestone gathering. We also cover Skyfire Summit programming, speakers, and how attendees can participate.Topics:• 1975 timeline & what holds up after 50 years• Crew testimony, polygraphs, and persistent myths• What to expect at Skyfire Summit (Sedona, Oct 17–20, 2025)• Advice to experiencers & the next generation of researchersSHOW NOTESSupport the Show & Stay Connected!👉 Join us on Patreon — Get ad-free podcast episodes (for any media player) for as little as $2/month: https://www.patreon.com/MartinWillisPodcastUFO🛸Did you have a UFO/UAP Encounter? Leave Us a Voicemail: https://podcastufo.com/ufo-sightings/ufo-encounter-voicemail🧢 Podcast UFO Merch (Shirts, Hats & More): https://tinyurl.com/mrybmnwb📬 FREE Sign Up for Our Weekly Newsletter — Get updates on upcoming guests, blog posts, and more:http://eepurl.com/LPHKD🌐 Our Website:https://podcastufo.com📱 Follow us on Social Media:Twitter (X): https://x.com/PodcastUFOFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/PodcastUFO📺 Subscribe on YouTube (It’s Free!):https://www.youtube.com/user/PodcastUFO?sub_confirmation=1

26 Sep 56min

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