How Apple lost control of the App Store

How Apple lost control of the App Store

Everywhere you look, antitrust fights have the potential to reshape the tech industry. Nilay, David, and The Verge's Jake Kastrenakes start by digging into the latest ruling in the Apple / Epic trial, in which a furious judge rips open the App Store in a way Apple likely never saw coming. The way we pay for apps is about to change, and fast. After that, it's time for an update on the Google and Meta trials, as Google tries to preserve its search empire and Meta tries to make the case that basically every company on the web is its vicious competitor. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for another installment of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, plus some notes on this week's Worldcoin launch and the strange new Meta AI app. Also: party speakers. Always party speakers. Further reading: A judge just blew up Apple’s control of the App Store ‘Cook chose poorly’: how Apple blew up its control over the App Store The future of the App Store depends on the difference between a ‘button’ and an ‘external link’ Apple must allow other forms of in-app purchase, rules judge in Epic v. Apple Apple exec ‘outright lied’ during Epic trial Apple confirms it will appeal the App Store order. Epic says Fortnite is coming back to iOS in the US Sundar Pichai says the DOJ’s antitrust plan could kill Google Search Google confirms it’s close to getting Gemini support on iPhones The TikTok ban is back in court — in Meta’s antitrust trial TikTok’s head of operations takes the stand. Reels isn’t Instagram’s ‘core’ experience. TikTok doesn’t compete with Meta for ‘personal social networking.’ TikTok’s legal entanglements collide. The TikTok ban makes another cameo. TikTok’s friends tab is not exactly a hit. TikTok and Reels are ‘indistinguishable.’ Are YouTube and Instagram the top competitors for TikTok? TikTok predicted Instagram would redesign its app to focus on Reels. Meta prepared for a ‘flood in traffic’ ahead of the TikTok ban. Facebook execs worried Google would buy WhatsApp and make it ‘a cross-platform iMessage.’ Facebook worried most about Google or Apple buying WhatsApp. Google had a ‘long shot’ chance of becoming competitive in social with WhatsApp. Facebook exec worried about losing the business to mobile messaging apps. ‘I was really worried that this could become the end.’ ‘This shit is getting scary.’ WhatsApp showed ‘absolutely no signs of morphing’ into a social app. Facebook floated starting from scratch on messaging. Facebook didn’t know how it would make money from WhatsApp. Facebook didn’t fear WhatsApp becoming a social competitor. Meta releases AI app to compete with ChatGPT Brendan Carr congratulates himself Brendan Carr’s FCC is an anti-consumer, rights-trampling harassment machine Brendan Carr’s Bizarro World FCC Sam Altman-backed Worldcoin cryptocurrency launches in the US Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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F8 and Facebook's future in privacy

F8 and Facebook's future in privacy

Facebooks F8 conference happened this week so The Verge's Nilay Patel, Casey Newton, Ashley Carman, and Paul Miller break down the biggest announcements and updates from the event including Messenger, Instagram, WhatsApp, Oculus, and more.  Stories discussed this week:The 5 biggest announcements from Facebook’s F8 developer conference keynote Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg says the ‘future is private’Facebook keeps asking whether its keynote makes people like FacebookFacebook Messenger is coming to the desktopThe next version of Facebook Messenger will be radically smallerWhy Facebook is making a big bet on MessengerFacebook bans Alex Jones and Laura Loomer for violating its policies against dangerous individualsFacebook could create new privacy positions as part of FTC settlementFacebook adds ‘secret crushes’ so you can see which friends are thirsting after youFacebook’s Portal is getting WhatsApp support and launching internationallyOculus Quest review: a great system with a frustrating compromiseNubia stuck a cooling fan in its latest gaming smartphoneApple explains why it’s cracking down on third-party screen time and parental control apps Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

3 Maj 20191h 7min

Luminary and the podcast wars to come, with Nick Quah and Ashley Carman

Luminary and the podcast wars to come, with Nick Quah and Ashley Carman

The Podcast Wars are coming. After Luminary’s troubled launch, The Verge’s Nilay Patel and Ashley Carman sit-down with podcast expert Nick Quah of Hot Pod to discuss if Luminary or anyone could be “the Netflix of podcasts” and where the industry is headed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

30 Apr 201947min

WWDC leaks, Luminary’s launch troubles, and Galaxy Fold review

WWDC leaks, Luminary’s launch troubles, and Galaxy Fold review

After a week of Galaxy Fold troubles, The Verge's Dieter Bohn, Ashley Carman, and Paul Miller continue the foldable saga, along with drama with the new podcast app Luminary. We've also got some leaks from Apple's upcoming WWDC event and a rumored Pixel 3a from Google I/O so keep listening to stay informed.  Stories this week: Samsung Galaxy Fold review: broken dreamSamsung delays Galaxy Fold indefinitely: ‘We will take measures to strengthen the display’AT&T is now telling customers the Galaxy Fold will ship on June 13thiFixit’s Galaxy Fold teardown reveals its biggest design flawPodcast wars: $100 million startup Luminary launches Tuesday …iPad ImportiPad Windowing, dark modeiPad external DisplaySiri Intents & Siri ShortcutsOnePlus 7 Pro launch event set for May 14thThe OnePlus 7 Pro will have a 'breakthrough' display and 5GGoogle's Pixel 3 and Pixel 3a may come to T-Mobile Google teases new Pixel announcement for May 7th  To see The Vergecast live at Google I/O, RSVP at  theverge.com/vergecastlive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

26 Apr 20191h 4min

Aurora CEO Chris Urmson on what's next for self-driving cars

Aurora CEO Chris Urmson on what's next for self-driving cars

Aurora CEO Chris Urmson stops by to discuss the future of self-driving cars with The Verge's Nilay Patel and Andrew Hawkins. They explore how the industry has evolved over the years, and how long it will take before self-driving cars are commonly used on the road. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

23 Apr 201943min

Samsung's Galaxy Fold phones are breaking

Samsung's Galaxy Fold phones are breaking

The Samsung Galaxy Fold is here — and it’s already breaking. The Verge’s Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Paul Miller talk first impressions of Samsung’s new phone. Later, they discuss the end of the feud and lawsuits between Apple and Qualcomm and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

19 Apr 20191h 8min

The electric scooter revolution with Lime co-founder Brad Bao

The electric scooter revolution with Lime co-founder Brad Bao

Lime co-founder Brad Bao explains how the electric scooter revolution will evolve. The Verge's Nilay Patel and Andrew Hawkins discuss the seemingly overnight emergence of electric scooters in cities across the country. They explore the tension scooters can create and ponder the future of urban mobility. Vote for Vergecast in the Webby's! as well as The Verge's Why'd You Push That Button? and our wonderful YouTube channel Verge Science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

16 Apr 201942min

Foxxconn's empty innovation centers and a blackhole photo revealed

Foxxconn's empty innovation centers and a blackhole photo revealed

Loren Grush discusses the first image of a black hole, Nilay discusses Foxconn's broken dreams, Dieter discusses gadgets, and Paul discusses Microsoft's Chromium Edge browser. Long show but stick with us, there's a lot to know here. Stories discussed this week: - See the first image ever taken of a supermassive black hole - Ikea and Sonos made the ultimate speaker lamp - Foxconn’s ‘innovation centers’ are a bunch of empty buildings in Wisconsin - Turns out Amazon buying Eero wasn’t the startup success story we thought - New Zealand privacy commissioner says Facebook is run by ‘morally bankrupt’ liars - T-Mobile relaunches Layer3 TV service as TVision Home - Netflix confirms it killed AirPlay support, won't let you beam shows to … - YouTube TV raises monthly price to $50, but adds Discovery channels ... - Google patches ads into Android TV home screens without warning … - LG G8 ThinQ review: many gimmicks, not enough progress - Samsung's Galaxy A80 is an automated notchless slider with a ... - Hidden Google Play info suggests 'midyear' release for Pixel 3 devices ... - Microsoft's Chromium Edge browser is now officially available to test … - Microsoft reveals all the Google things it removed in its Chromium … Vote for Vergecast in the Webby's! as well as The Verge's Why'd You Push That Button? and our wonderful YouTube channel Verge Science also, we'd love our listeners and reader to fill out theverge.com/survey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11 Apr 20191h 28min

Jaron Lanier's ideas for the future

Jaron Lanier's ideas for the future

Computer philosophy writer and "founding father of virtual reality," Jaron Lanier, chats with Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel about why he's optimistic about the future. Lanier shares his thoughts on how the "manipulation economy" has reshaped the world we live in and why we should be controlling and profiting from our own data. Vote for Vergecast in the Webby's! as well as The Verge's Why'd You Push That Button? and our wonderful YouTube channel Verge Science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

9 Apr 201943min

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