Geoengineer Once, Measure Twice

Geoengineer Once, Measure Twice

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Exploring Climate Geoengineering: An Urgent Discussion with Kelly Wanser


In this episode of Wicked Problems, host Richard Delevan sits down with Kelly Wanser, CEO of SilverLining, to delve into the critical topic of solar radiation modification (SRM) and geoengineering aka "climate interventions". Amidst a backdrop of growing climate risk and global warming, the conversation emphasizes the importance of robust scientific data and the various efforts to advance research in the atmospheric sciences. They discuss the evolving landscape of climate interventions, recent policy developments, and the vital role of both public and private sectors. The dialogue also touches on historical context, international cooperation, and the potential implications of stratospheric changes on our planet's future climate stability.


00:00 Introduction: The Need for More Data

00:41 Welcome to Wicked Problems

00:44 Recent Developments in Climate Interventions

02:21 The Importance of Measuring Atmospheric Changes

03:17 Historical Context: The Value of Knowing

04:16 Current Challenges in Atmospheric Research

06:15 Interview with Kelly Wanser

08:05 The State of Atmospheric Research Infrastructure

10:29 The Role of Policy and International Cooperation

14:40 The Future of Climate Research and Security

23:30 Balancing Public and Private Sector Roles

28:37 The Bull Case for Global Involvement

30:46 The Bear Case: Risks and Concerns

34:40 The Role of Open Science and Collaboration

40:13 Private Sector Involvement in Climate Research

46:06 Complexities of Atmospheric Interventions

52:08 Concluding Thoughts and Future Outlook

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