Ups and Downs - Johnny Depp, Doja Cat, Derrick Barry & more! |The Perez Hilton Podcast - Listen Here!

During a very tough week for America, we attempt to be your escape from our very unfortunate reality. We're rounding out the final week of the Deep/Heard trial. Meghan and Harry have fallen to a brand new low. There is a new king of pop. Doja Cat seems to be imploding. Perez speaks with Drag Race star Derrick Barry.

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