399 - John Vervaeke - What Is Spirit?

399 - John Vervaeke - What Is Spirit?

What is spirit? This was one of my most meaningful conversations with John Vervaeke yet. As we prepare for the Midwestuary 2025 conference in Chicago, we explore how beings come into existence, the mystery of unity and multiplicity, and what’s really going on with AI, angels, and the spirit of community. John shares some powerful personal transformations as well. I hope you enjoy this deep dive into spirit, ontology, and meaning.

YouTube version: https://youtu.be/hqmSW3SgzHs

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00:00 - Intro by Jonathan
01:25 - Intro music
01:50 - Midwestuary conference details
03:42 - What is Spirit?
05:21 - John's response
08:22 - Fellowship
11:00 - Jonathan's response
13:34 - Why it's hard to think about unity and multiplicity
16:35 - Dualism in spirit
18:32 - Modern false dichotomies
24:19 - Jonathan: Spirit outside of minds?
30:57 - Are there non-psychological spirits?
33:42 - Gathered in man
35:55 - Reduction can go both ways
37:35 - The seat of self-consciousness
42:01 - A human centered view
43:36 - John: The standard of realness
49:30 - An embodied world for everyone
56:17 - Porosity between science and myth
01:00:39 - Breath
01:02:05 - A post-Kantian vision
01:05:52 - Exampting and group identity
01:10:40 - Liturgy and team spirit
01:17:48 - Are spirits just psychological?
01:20:26 - Prophesy
01:27:43 - How do we use technology?
01:34:01 - AI

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9 - Milo, Jordan Peterson and The Symbolic Worldview. Discussing with Rachel Fulton Brown

9 - Milo, Jordan Peterson and The Symbolic Worldview. Discussing with Rachel Fulton Brown

Rachel Fulton Brown is a Medievalist and a tenured Professor at the University of Chicago. We discuss her friendship with Milo Yiannopoulos, her interest in Jordan Peterson and what such figures might mean in a time of chaos. --------------------------------------------------------- My links: patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathanpageau twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauCarvings Links for Rachel Fulton Brown: -Rachel Fulton Brown's homepage: http://home.uchicago.edu/~rfulton/index.html -Her forthcoming book on "Mary and the Art of Prayer": https://www.amazon.com/Mary-Art-Prayer-Medieval-Christian/dp/023118168X/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1499396548&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=futon+brown+mary+art+of+prayer -Her "Fencing Bear at Prayer" blog: http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/ Blog posts we talked about: -"Kung Fu Milo" (on Milo and the Kung Fu Panda): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2016/11/kung-fu-milo.html -"God's Fools" (on Milo, Francis, and Jesus): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/02/gods-fools.html - "Signed with the Cross" (on Jordan Peterson's understanding of the role of Christ as Hero): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/05/signed-with-cross.html - "St. Milo the Dangerous and the Dragon of Chaos" (on Fencing Bear's story about her relationship with Milo and the way he embodies the Hero archetype): http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/07/st-milo-dangerous-and-dragon-of-chaos.html

24 Juli 20181h 26min

8- Shrek | When the Margin Wins

8- Shrek | When the Margin Wins

Comparing the symbolism of center and periphery between the movie "Shrek" and the Greek play "The Bacchae" by Euripides. I then show how it relates to the changes happening in our world. The original video can be found here: https://youtu.be/WCFLbmAJ2Uc patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan

16 Juli 201817min

7 - Symbolic vs Literal Interpretation of The Bible

7 - Symbolic vs Literal Interpretation of The Bible

I explore the false opposition between the symbolic and literal interpretation of Bible stories using a typical letter I have received from someone who is struggling with their faith and with what they find in the Bible.

2 Juli 201814min

6- Symbolism in Guardians of The Galaxy vol.2

6- Symbolism in Guardians of The Galaxy vol.2

I give a symbolic interpretation of Guardians of the Galaxy vol.2 as well as a general interpretation of Super Heroes and their relationship to the margin and to identity in general.

21 Juni 201819min

5- The Metaphysics Of Pepe - with Jordan Peterson

5- The Metaphysics Of Pepe - with Jordan Peterson

In this episode I am putting up a discussion surrounding all the strange occurrences that appeared regarding Jordan Peterson and the Pepe the frog meme in 2016 near the time of the election of Donald Trump. I also have added an introduction which gives some of the context out of which the analysis was born.

12 Juni 201839min

4- Tradition and Things That Don't Fit - With Jordan Peterson

4- Tradition and Things That Don't Fit - With Jordan Peterson

In the first public discussion I had with Jordan Peterson, we discuss art and the chaotic buffer which appears between categories. This was recorded a few weeks after the gender pronoun situation exploded around Jordan Peterson.

1 Juni 201840min

3 - Encountering God in Stories

3 - Encountering God in Stories

The patterns in stories appear as their underlying order and also as a mode of human consciousness. One can encounter the Divine Logos in ancient stories and how these culminate in the story of Christ. A text version of this talk can be found here: https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/divine-patterns-in-story-and-image/ This talk was given in Feb. 2017 at the Climacus Conference in Louisville Kentucky. http://www.climacusconference.org/

28 Maj 201841min

2- Sacred Symbol, Sacred Art

2- Sacred Symbol, Sacred Art

This is a talk looking at the differences between traditional and contemporary art as well as exploring the symbolic structures and purpose of traditional art. This talk was originally given at King's University College in London Ontario in 2015.

21 Maj 20181h 2min

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