Winners & Losers From PUMP’S ICO With Santi, Yano & Rob Hadick | Weekly Roundup
Empire11 Juli 2025

Winners & Losers From PUMP’S ICO With Santi, Yano & Rob Hadick | Weekly Roundup

Happy Friday! On this roundup, Rob Hadick joins Santi and Yano again this week to discuss PUMP’S ICO, the future of creator driven revenue online, drama at Polymarket, where the best builders are today in the industry and how Agora is elevating stablecoins! -- Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross. Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts -- Follow Rob: https://x.com/HadickM Follow Santi: https://x.com/santiagoroel Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod -- Join the Empire Telegram: https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh -- GEODNET is the world’s largest RTK network, delivering real-time, centimeter-level precision for drones, robots, farmers, and first responders. Recognized by the U.S. Congress, this blockchain-powered network supports mission-critical applications across a wide range of industries. Discover how GEODNET is changing the world: [https://geodnet.com] -- Get up to speed on the biggest stories in crypto each week. In five minutes. Get the Bitwise Weekly CIO Memo delivered directly to your inbox at bitwiseinvestments.com/ciomemo/empire -- Mantle is building the financial infrastructure for a tokenised future—bridging traditional finance and on-chain innovation through six integrated product pillars: Mantle Network, mETH Protocol, Function BTC, and the upcoming launches of MantleX, Mantle Banking, and the Mantle Index Four (MI4) Fund. Anchored by one of the largest community-governed treasuries in the industry, valued at over $4 billion, Mantle is delivering institutional-grade products designed for global capital markets. Follow Mantle on X: https://x.com/Mantle_Official -- Zenrock is a permissionless, decentralized custody network backed by 1RoundTable Partners, 10T, Maven11, and Spartan. Live on Jupiter, $ROCK is the native token for transactions within the Zenrock ecosystem and secures Zenrock’s decentralized custody network.The first application launching on Zenrock is zenBTC – yield-bearing Bitcoin on Solana. zenBTC is now live. -- Citrea is the first zero-knowledge rollup to enhance the capabilities of Bitcoin blockspace and enable Bitcoin applications (₿apps). Citrea is optimistically verified by Bitcoin, offering the most Bitcoin-secured and native way to extend BTC’s utility to DeFi. Learn more about Citrea: https://citrea.xyz/?utm_source=bellcurve&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=website_promo Follow Citrea on X/Twitter for the latest on its journey to mainnet: https://x.com/citrea_xyz -- Chapters: (00:00) Intro (03:07) Pump ICO (12:52) Ads (Geodnet, Bitwise) (14:29) Creator Strategy (23:55) Pump’s Revenue Clarity (26:31) Solana’s Future (29:40) Where Are The Best Builders? (35:45) Ads (Geodnet, Bitwise) (37:22) Acquisitions (48:24) Ads (Mantle, Zenrock, ,Citrea) (50:42) Zelensky Suit Polymarket Drama (01:00:27) Agora — Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

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Policy Series: It's Time To Go On Offense | Rebecca Rettig, Jake Chervinsky

Policy Series: It's Time To Go On Offense | Rebecca Rettig, Jake Chervinsky

Today we are joined by Rebecca Rettig and Jake Chervinsky to discuss the SEC's attack on crypto and how the industry needs to respond. Rebecca and Jake explore the SEC lawsuits, the McHenry-Thompson Bill, their expected US regulation timeline, DC's sentiment and more! Regulation and policy are becoming must-know topics for crypto participants, and this is your go-to source for everything you need to know. This is the second episode in an ongoing regulatory and policy series with Jake and Rebecca! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:53) The SEC Lawsuits: What’s Next? (10:53) “Chainalysis Ad” (11:57) The SEC Lawsuits: What’s Next? (16:02) We Need a Use Case to Show Regulators (21:06) The McHenry-Thompson Bill (38:23) Unprecedented Action by the SEC (45:47) MiCA, Global Legislation and the US’s Timeline (54:10) Non-Custodial Tax Reporting (56:18) DC's Sentiment: FTX Still Lingers - - Follow Rebecca: https://twitter.com/RebeccaRettig1 Follow Jake: https://twitter.com/jchervinsky Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - This episode is brought to you by Chainalysis. Chainalysis is the blockchain data platform. We provide data, software, services, and research to government agencies, web3 companies, financial institutions, and insurance and cybersecurity companies. Our data powers investigation, compliance, and business intelligence software that has been used to solve some of the world’s most high-profile criminal cases. For more information, visit www.Chainalysis.com/empire. - - Resources: The Blockchain Association https://theblockchainassociation.org/ https://twitter.com/BlockchainAssn Polygon https://polygon.technology/ - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

14 Juni 20231h 3min

Why Our Investment Thesis Hasn't Changed | Avichal Garg, Haseeb Qureshi

Why Our Investment Thesis Hasn't Changed | Avichal Garg, Haseeb Qureshi

Today we are joined by Avichal Garg and Haseeb Qureshi to explain their investment frameworks and why their crypto thesis hasn't changed. We talk about the US crypto exodus, mental models for investing, why TAM (total addressable market) is useless, investing in private vs public markets, what crypto got wrong and more! - - Timestamps: (00:00) The SEC, Binance and Coinbase: We Ripped the Bandaid Off (09:38) How Does This Affect Your Investment Decisions? (17:00) Mental Models for Investing (20:44) Value Creation vs Value Capture (23:33) Why TAM is Meaningless (28:19) Crypto’s Most Important Applications (31:06) How to Evaluate a Projects Potential (35:15) Bullish Decentralized vs Centralized Projects? (43:48) Thales ad (44:44) Carbon Ad (46:26) The Investment Environment, Layoffs and Shrinking Runways (01:06:01) Startups vs Liquid Tokens (01:11:38) What Crypto Got Wrong (01:16:53) Value Accrual: Should Protocols Flip the Fee Switch? - - Follow Avichal: https://twitter.com/avichal Follow Haseeb: https://twitter.com/hosseeb Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/  - - This episode is brought to you by Carbon. Carbon is a new DEX on Ethereum that makes concentrated liquidity easy. LPs can automate their liquidity strategy with custom on-chain limit and range orders: all from a beautiful UI.  Don't miss out on Carbon's "ROI Trading Competition" that's live until July 11! Here’s how to play: Click this Carbon link: https://bit.ly/43Vo2AB Create a new Carbon strategy  Boom. You're eligible to win USDC rewards based on the performance of your strategy - - This episode is brought to you by Thales.  Thales is an innovative digital options platform on Arbitrum and Optimism that gets you exposure to crypto assets in the simplest way possible. As simple as choosing UP or DOWN! Experience the simplicity and power of Thales by visiting https://thalesmarket.io/?mtm_campaign=blockworks today! - - Resources Electric Capital https://www.electriccapital.com/ https://twitter.com/ElectricCapital Dragonfly https://www.dragonfly.xyz/ https://twitter.com/dragonfly_xyz - -  Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

13 Juni 20231h 30min

The SEC's Attack On Crypto: Binance Stumbles, Coinbase Fights Back | Roundup

The SEC's Attack On Crypto: Binance Stumbles, Coinbase Fights Back | Roundup

In today's episode, Jason and Santiago discuss the SEC's attack on crypto. We discuss the differences between the Coinbase and Binance lawsuits, tokens as securities, how regulation will impact US crypto innovation and more. We also discuss Louis Vuitton's new NFTs, Arbitrum FUD and the Apple Vision Pro! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:12) The SEC Oversteps: Binance and Coinbase (42:41) “Valora Ad” (43:35) Louis Vuitton Launches Soul Bound NFTs (52:25) Arbitrum Bug, Apple Vision Pro & Recommendations - - Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - This episode is brought to you by Valora. Valora is a self-custody, mobile-first wallet... and the easiest way to send, swap, collect and purchase digital goods on the Celo blockchain. Download the app and start exploring today at valoraapp.com/empire. - - Resources Binance employee chatlogs https://twitter.com/adamscochran/status/1666473028610408450?s=20 Fundamental Difference’ Between SEC’s Binance, Coinbase Suits https://blockworks.co/news/coinbase-binance-suits-different - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

9 Juni 20231h 4min

Mike Novogratz on Crypto's Outlook, Trading & Storytelling | 1000x

Mike Novogratz on Crypto's Outlook, Trading & Storytelling | 1000x

In today's episode of 1000x, we are joined by Mike Novogratz, legendary trader and founder of Galaxy Digital. We talk about how Mike built an intuition for markets, how to synthesize trades, crypto's outlook, macro policy expectations, Mike's favorite trade and more! We'll drop a new 1000x episode on Empire's RSS feed and the 1000x YouTube channel every two weeks. Hit the links below and give us a follow! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:55) Developing an Intuition for Markets (03:25) How to Synthesize Trading Opportunities (07:17) Trading Crypto vs Macro: Similarities and Differences (11:42) Maintaining Conviction in Crypto (18:27) Crypto’s Most Interesting Opportunities (20:51) The Relationship Between BTC and Monetary/Fiscal Policy (30:41) Retail Adoption: Crypto Needs More Storytellers (37:19) Why Mike Started Galaxy (39:40) Favorite Trade of All Time (42:37) When to Sell vs Hold (48:22) Investing in Your Community and Making an Impact - - Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/novogratz Follow Jonah: https://twitter.com/jvb_xyz Follow 1000x: https://twitter.com/1000xPod Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3FuSarX Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources: Golden Tree https://www.goldentree.com/ Cumberland https://cumberland.io/ https://twitter.com/CumberlandSays DRW https://drw.com/ https://twitter.com/DRWTrading - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on 1000x is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Avi, Jonah and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

8 Juni 202351min

The Sovereign Rollup Thesis & Inevitability of Modular Tech Stacks | Mustafa Al-Bassam (Celestia), Preston Evans (Sovereign)

The Sovereign Rollup Thesis & Inevitability of Modular Tech Stacks | Mustafa Al-Bassam (Celestia), Preston Evans (Sovereign)

Today we are joined by Preston Evans and Mustafa Al-Bassam to discuss the sovereign rollup thesis. We discuss social vs technical sovereignty, the Sovereign SDK, why light clients are critical to scale, limitations of optimistic rollups, value accrual in a modular world and more! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Rollup Designs (05:40) Social Sovereignty vs Technical Sovereignty (09:58) Why Does the Rollup Debate Matter? (18:09) Limitations of the EVM (20:39) A Blockchains 3 Core Tasks (24:21) Thales (25:18) Security Guarantees & the Benefit for Users (32:21) Modular Inevitability & Breaking the Layer One Loop (42:34) Why Preston is Bearish on Optimistic Rollups (46:00) Value Accrual and Moats (53:40) Sovereign’s Alpha Release & Celestia’s Mainnet Incoming - - Follow Preston: https://twitter.com/prestonevans__ Follow Mustafa: https://twitter.com/musalbas Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/  - - This episode is brought to you by Thales. Thales is an innovative digital options platform on Arbitrum and Optimism that gets you exposure to crypto assets in the simplest way possible. As simple as choosing UP or DOWN! Experience the simplicity and power of Thales by visiting https://thalesmarket.io/?mtm_campaign=blockworks today! - - Resources Celestia https://celestia.org/ https://twitter.com/CelestiaOrg Sovereign https://www.sovereign.xyz/ https://twitter.com/sovereign_labs - -  Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

6 Juni 202357min

Santi Announces He's Building A Crypto Bank | Roundup

Santi Announces He's Building A Crypto Bank | Roundup

In today's episode, Jason and Santiago discuss their outlook on the bear market, why Lido FUD is overblown, Animoca's red flags to watch, the SEC's show of weakness and Santi's big announcement (he's building a new crypto bank!). - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:38) Why This Bear Market Seems So Dark (13:47) Santi Announces He's Building a Crypto Bank (24:54) “Valora Ad” (25:49) Lido FUD (33:34) Animoca's Red Flags (43:16) The SEC Shows Weakness (47:53) Book/Show Recommendations - - Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - This episode is brought to you by Valora. Valora is a self-custody, mobile-first wallet... and the easiest way to send, swap, collect and purchase digital goods on the Celo blockchain. Download the app and start exploring today at valoraapp.com/empire. - - Resources: Animoca https://www.animocabrands.com/ - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

2 Juni 202351min

MakerDAO's Endgame: The Boldest Gamble in Crypto History | Rune Christensen

MakerDAO's Endgame: The Boldest Gamble in Crypto History | Rune Christensen

Today we are joined by Rune Christensen to discuss MakerDAO's Endgame. The Endgame is MakerDAO's roadmap to create the world's most widely used stablecoin. We discuss how Maker has evolved since 2015, MKR's underperformance, the 5 phases of the Endgame, what could go wrong and more! - - Timestamps: 00:00 MakerDAO's History: From Creation to Today 08:51 Codifying Rules to Scale 19:36 MKR’s Underperformance vs DAI’s Growth 24:36 Quicknode 26:25 Phase 1: Rebranding, New Tokens, Farming 37:37 Phase 2: SubDAOs, RWA Collateral & Tokenomics 55:59 Phase 3: Implementing AI 01:01:20 Phase 4 & 5: Voting Rewards and a Special Purpose Blockchain 01:05:40 The Bear Case 01:10:10 Allocator DAOs and Internalizing Value - - Follow Rune: https://twitter.com/RuneKek Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/  - - This episode is brought to you by Quicknode. QuickNode is an end-to-end blockchain developer platform that makes building Web3 apps easy. Go to QuickNode.com and use code Empire for a free month on their feature-packed Build Plan! - - Resources The Endgame Plan parts 1&2 (May 2022) https://forum.makerdao.com/t/the-endgame-plan-parts-1-2/15456 The 5 phases of Endgame (May 2023) https://forum.makerdao.com/t/the-5-phases-of-endgame/20830 - -  Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

31 Maj 20231h 13min

Solana's Metaplex Sparks Heated Protocol Funding Debate | Roundup

Solana's Metaplex Sparks Heated Protocol Funding Debate | Roundup

In today's episode, we discuss how Metaplex, Solana's leading NFT infrastructure provider, surprised the community by announcing usage fees, causing a heated debate on public goods funding and protocol business models. We also explore the intersection of AI and crypto, the dangers of restaking, if crypto has PMF and Ledger's PR nightmare! - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:57) Nvidia and AI Take Center Stage (14:20) Metaplex: Public Goods and Protocol Funding (31:26) “Valora Ad” (32:24) Should ETH Embrace Restaking? (38:28) Ledger’s PR Nightmare (49:32) Does Crypto Have PMF? (58:01) Fred Wilson: “When They Want to Shut Down, Double Down” (1:04:41) What We’re Watching and Blockworks’ New Podcast - - Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Garrett: https://twitter.com/GarrettHarper_ Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw - - This episode is brought to you by Valora. Valora is a self-custody, mobile-first wallet and the easiest way to send, swap, collect and purchase digital goods on the Celo blockchain. Try out Masa Prosperity Passport in Valora to claim your free 5+ character .celo domain and get additional rewards from Celo ecosystem partners. Download the app and start exploring today at valoraapp.com/empire." - - Resources: EigenLayer episode (Empire) https://spoti.fi/45yUdr6 Shared Sequencer episode (Empire) https://spoti.fi/3MSIw7n Vitalik's new article on restaking https://vitalik.ca/general/2023/05/21/dont_overload.html - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

26 Maj 20231h 16min

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