Madang Podcast: Brandan Robertson, Ep. 52

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This is the 52nd episode, featuring Brandan Robertson a noted author, activist, and public theologian, working at the intersections of spirituality, sexuality, and social renewal. He is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ, serving as the Pastor of Sunnyside Reformed Church in New York City and is the founder and Executive Director of DevOUT, a non-profit challenging far-right religious narratives in both digital and traditional media. He’s widely known as the "TikTok Pastor", with a vast digital reach of nearly 300k followers and 10 millionviews engaging his inclusive theological content across social media. He is pursuing a Ph.D. in NT at Drew University.

On this episode of Madang, Robertson and I talk about hisbook, Filled to be Emptied.

We discuss privilege, Philippians 2, discipleship,kenosis, fear, love, hope and much more.

I am grateful to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Homebrewed Christianity, Central Seminary and Westminster John Knox Press for sponsoring this episode.

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This episode is presented by Central Seminary – a historicand accredited seminary leading with the values of Community, Empathy, Growth and Tenacity. Central offer numerous graduate degrees and certificates including our Doctor of Ministry degree in Creative Leadership which is now offered 100% online. The next Doctor of Ministry cohort begins in January 2026.

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