The Manager’s Playbook 040: Shawn Desman, Steve Zsirai & Chad Walsh - Drake’s Co-Sign, Fame, Sobriety, Social Media Strategy & Building a Comeback Team

The Manager’s Playbook 040: Shawn Desman, Steve Zsirai & Chad Walsh - Drake’s Co-Sign, Fame, Sobriety, Social Media Strategy & Building a Comeback Team

Shawn Desman’s story is one of highs, lows, and a powerful comeback. From topping the charts to stepping away from music, Shawn opens up about the pressure of fame, battling depression, and finding sobriety. With Drake’s encouragement at an OVO event, he rediscovered his love for music and returned on his own terms.

Alongside managers Steve Zsirai and Chad Walsh, the conversation dives into the strategy behind rebuilding a career in today’s industry; from leveraging social media and data, to understanding touring, to balancing family life with success.

Packed with honesty, lessons, and laughs, this episode is for anyone who believes in resilience, reinvention, and the power of the right team.

Simply put, a conversation like this doesn't come cheap.


Watch the full episode on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@managersplaybook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

New episodes drop Tuesdays @ 10am ET

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