Daniel Jacobson on DevOps for Desktop Applications - Episode 59

Daniel Jacobson on DevOps for Desktop Applications - Episode 59

Today’s guest is Daniel Jacobson, a Program Management Lead on the Visual Studio team focused on empowering Windows Developers. Daniel was one of the speakers at the .NET Conf 2019 and will also be at the 2019 Microsoft Ignite conference! Daniel joined Microsoft about 5 years ago as a Program Manager. And now, as a Senior PM on the Visual Studio team, Daniel’s focus is on the biggest challenge that developers are facing anywhere in their development. His team empowers literally millions of developers building applications for Windows devices. All that they do is centered around customers and their desires.

In this episode, Daniel and Jeffrey speak about DevOps for desktop applications. Daniel shares his vision for empowering all Windows application developers to seamlessly and incrementally modernize their existing applications through the work that he and his team is doing. Daniel largely focuses on the Visual Studio App Center in this episode, going into detail about each and every step you need to know about when integrating it, and provides additional resources at the end of the episode to further your learning. Tune in!

Topics of Discussion:

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[:49] Jeffrey gives some announcements and lets you know where to get a hold of his book, .NET DevOps for Azure.

[3:27] About today’s guest, Daniel Jacobson!

[3:53] Jeffrey welcomes Daniel to the show!

[4:04] Daniel speaks about his journey in the space and how he ended up where he is today.

[5:54] What is a client application? What makes them different?

[9:52] What are the choices available for those looking to run a native Windows application on the Microsoft platform?

[13:32] With WinForms, WPF, and .NET Core 3.0 coming out, what things can we not yet do if we’re trying to go to .NET Core 3.0? What should people watch out for?

[15:55] Daniel explains all we need to know about Visual Studio App Center!

[17:30] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[17:55] If somebody is upgrading an older WinForms’ app into .NET Core, would they track their work on Azure Boards or does App Center provide work item tracking?

[18:58] Does the App Center integrate with existing source control? And following that, does the App Center support an automated build process?

[20:01] After the build and you’ve got a numbered release candidate package of some sort, what should the developer do?

[23:03] Is this all ready to go today for developers to use?

[23:25] Daniel explains the next step in the process once you have the package ready and are ready to deploy to your first pre-production environment or test group of users. He elaborates on what that looks like and what tool to use.

[24:31] Daniel continues to explain what the package does once it is in App Center and what the chain of pre-production environments look like.

[25:16] When users get the latest version of your app, is that going through the Microsoft store? What will automated updates look like in the future?

[26:31] So will App Center feature be a full-on replacement for ClickOnce? And what is it called?

[29:46] Is the Microsoft business store ‘a thing?’

[30:17] Does App Center have an integration with the Microsoft store?

[30:38] What does the process look like to actually ‘go to production?’

[32:19] Are Xamarin, operational telemetry, crash reports, etc. all wired into App Center?

[33:36] Looking forward, what is Daniel’s vision for the future?

[35:11] Daniel highlights some valuable resources for listeners that want to learn more!

Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

Microsoft Ignite 2019

Party with Palermo - Microsoft Ignite Conference 2019 (Eventbrite)

Special pre-release offer that expires Nov. 2nd: email Jeffrey at Jeffrey@Clear-Measure.com and tell him who his very first guest on the podcast was then he’ll send you a free e-book copy!

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Pre-order on Amazon here!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure e-book!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsbookforcommunity — Visit to get your hands on two free books to give away at conferences or events!

Jeffrey’s .NET DevOps Bootcamp (Oct. 28-30th, in Lakeway, TX)

Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Daniel Jacobson’s Twitter: @PMatmic

Aka.ms/WinUI

MSIX App Installer

XAML Islands

WinForms
WPF

.NET Core 3.0

Azure Pipelines

App Center

Azure Boards

ClickOnce

URL-Based Windows Installer

Xamarin

DevBlogs.Microsoft.com/VisualStudio

DevBlogs.Microsoft.com/DotNet

Aka.ms/MSIX

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Sam Guckenheimer on Testing, Data Collection, and the State of DevOps Report - Episode 003

Sam Guckenheimer on Testing, Data Collection, and the State of DevOps Report - Episode 003

This episode, Jeffrey Palermo welcomes his guest Sam Guckenheimer, to the podcast! Sam is the Product Owner for the Azure DevOps product line at Microsoft, and has been with the Microsoft team for the last 15 years. He has 30 years of experience as an architect, developer, tester, product Manager, project manager, and general manager in the software industry worldwide. His first book, Software Engineering with Microsoft Visual Studio Team System, was translated into 7 languages and recognized as a de facto guide for teams adopting Agile practices. He’s also a frequent speaker at industry conferences.   Sam explains the exciting new offer around Azure Pipelines for open source teams, changes he has seen in the industry from his many years of working at Microsoft, and some of the biggest changes in how users work with Azure DevOps. He also provides tons of key insights into the findings and research around predicting the impact Microsoft’s changes will make on user interactions, good practices around gathering live site telemetry and data collection, architectural (or design decisions or patterns) that help or hurt the live site supportability of a complex system, and key takeaways from his own internal learnings and the State of DevOps Report.   Topics of Discussion: [:50] About today’s topic and guest. [2:00] What is Sam focusing on now? [3:11] With many years at Microsoft, IBM, and Rational Software, what changes stand out in the industry in Sam’s mind? [5:51] What’s the most exciting part of the Azure DevOps release for Sam? The open source capabilities of course! [9:29] Why Sam loves open source frameworks. [11:05] What makes Azure DevOps so successful? And the biggest changes in how engineers work with it. [15:15] A word from Azure DevOps sponsor: Clear Measure. [15:43] The findings and research around predicting the impact Microsoft’s changes will make on user interactions, their feedback cycle, and applying the “rule of thirds” to make data-informed decisions. [19:42] Good practices around gathering live site telemetry and data collection through Azure Log Analytics and Azure Application Insights. [22:42] Other internal learnings: the notion of a production first mindset, designated responsible individual (DRI), and repair items. [26:56] Has Sam found any architectural or design decisions or patterns that help or hurt the live site supportability of a complex system? [30:42] Sam’s take on APM software and traditional monitoring tools. [32:36] Sam speaks about the State of DevOps Report and why it is so important. [36:39] Key takeaways from Sam on the State of DevOps Report and his own internal learnings.   Mentioned in this Episode: Azure DevOps Software Engineering with Microsoft Visual Studio Team System, by Juan J. Perez and Sam Guckenheimer Azure Pipelines Agile Github Git Node Golang .NET Framework 4 Clear Measure (Sponsor) Azure Log Analytics Azure Application Insights AKA.MS/DevOps Buck Hodges APM Tools The State of DevOps Report   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.   Follow Up with Our Guest: Sam Guckenheimer’s LinkedIn Sam Guckenheimer’s Amazon Book Page

24 Sep 201841min

Donovan Brown on How to Use Azure DevOps Services - Episode 002

Donovan Brown on How to Use Azure DevOps Services - Episode 002

Welcome to the second episode of The Azure DevOps Podcast — with your host, Jeffrey Palermo. Jeffrey is joined by his guest, Donovan Brown, to discuss how to use Azure DevOps services. Donovan is a Principle DevOps Manager at Microsoft, helping developers do great things with DevOps methods on the Microsoft platform. He has been with Microsoft since December of 2013, and has been a developer for 20 years.   This episode, Jeffrey and Donovan talk about the whirlwind it’s been since the launch of the new Azure DevOps, key information new developers might want to know when beginning to use or incorporate Azure DevOps, some of the changes to their services, what’s available for packages in DevOps, the free build capabilities Microsoft is giving to open source projects, some of the new capabilities around GitHub integration, and more!   Topics of Discussion: [:52] About today’s topic and guest. [1:02] Jeffrey welcomes Donovan to the podcast and he speaks about the name change and what it’s been like since the launch. [4:25] Donovan shares his background in developing and his day-to-day duties at Microsoft. [11:47] How the Team Foundation System has morphed through the phases to Azure DevOps. [14:59] The key things new developers need to put into the various pieces (the continuous integration build, the deployment, etc)? What concepts should they think of? [19:27] Donovan explains some of the changes to Azure DevOps services that allow you to pick and choose what you want to use. [21:08] A word from Azure DevOps sponsor: Clear Measure. [21:37] Donovan talks about some of the new capabilities around GitHub integration. [24:00] What is YAML? [27:44] How developers manage YAML. [29:10] Donovan speaks about what’s available for Packages in DevOps. [34:22] About the new open source pipeline listing. [36:20] About the free build capabilities Microsoft is giving to open source projects. [37:00] What Jeffrey and Donovan love about the free availability of Azure DevOps for open source projects. [38:58] Donovan explains the concept of an unbreakable pipeline, its capabilities, and what makes it so exciting. [43:30] Donovan’s suggestion for listeners to go do after listening to this week’s episode.   Mentioned in this Episode: Azure DevOps yo Team VSTS @DonovanBrown on Twitter PowerShell XAML Clear Measure (Sponsor) GitHub YAML NuGet Dynatrace Dynatrace’s Podcast: PurePerformance Docs.Microsoft.com #LoECDA on Twitter (for any questions on Azure DevOps) Channel 9   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes   Follow Up with Our Guest: Donovan Brown’s LinkedIn @DonovanBrown on Twitter DonovanBrown.com

10 Sep 201845min

Buck Hodges on the introduction to Azure DevOps Services - Episode 001

Buck Hodges on the introduction to Azure DevOps Services - Episode 001

Welcome to the first edition of The Azure DevOps Podcast! Your host, Jeffrey Palermo is joined by guest, Buck Hodges, to announce the global release of Azure DevOps Services. Buck is the Director of Engineering for the Azure DevOps product group and has been at Microsoft for over 15 years.   Azure DevOps Services (previously known as Visual Studio Team Services) aims to help developers ship faster. With Azure DevOps Services comes a full set of services that you can use separately, with other non-Microsoft services, or together as a suite.   In this episode, Jeffrey and Buck dive into all the key differences that come along with the rebranding and new services. Buck also gives a rundown of the system (from how it’s organized to how to mix and match with other devops tools on the market) and many of the new, exciting features available for developers.   Episode Sponsor: Clear Measure is a software engineering firm and Microsoft Gold Partner empowering development teams to be their best. Clear Measure equips developers with the devops tools, methods, and automation necessary to focus on building their applications rather than wrestling with builds, deployments, or environments. Click clear-measure.com to see whether a devops implementation is right for you.   Topics of Discussion: [:30] About today’s topic and guest. [1:00] Buck Hodges announces the new Azure DevOps Services. [2:44] Buck’s background in DevOps and career progression at Microsoft. [10:00] Key differences with the rebranding to Azure DevOps, and its 5 main services: Pipelines, Boards, Artifacts, Repose, and Test Plans. [14:49] Can Jira (and other similar softwares) users adopt Azure DevOps? [16:48] About Microsoft’s commitment to open source and giving back by offering free use of Azure DevOps to run free builds for open source projects. [20:02] About the ease of getting started with Azure Pipelines through the GitHub Marketplace, and some of the big users with Pipelines. [20:49] A word from Azure DevOps sponsor: Clear Measure. [21:19] About the internal transformation of the Azure DevOps team and what it looks like today. [24:04] How many developers are part of Buck’s organization? [24:54] Buck gives a rundown of the system (how it’s organized, how many team projects, how many Git repositories, how many independent services, etc.) [28:58] Do they build all the services together in the same Git repository or do they split them into different build configurations? [32:45] What’s coming next for Azure DevOps? [36:34] Buck addresses some general misconceptions. [40:00] When will customers be able to get their hands on the new Azure DevOps 2019 server? [41:30] Where to learn more or get started with Azure DevOps.   Mentioned in this Episode: Azure DevOps VSTS Azure Pipelines Azure Boards Azure Artifacts Azure Repose Azure Test Plans Team Foundation Server (TFS) Jira GitHub Visual Studio Code TypeScript Dev.Azure.com   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes   Follow Up with Our Guest: Posts by Buck Hodges on Microsoft Azure Buck Hodges’ LinkedIn

7 Sep 201843min

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