#86- The Goo Place

Alice is joined by comedians Kate Kennedy (@KateKennedyxxx) and David Smalley (@davidcsmalley) to review what happens when you take a Bob's Burgers and turn it into a porn. We also give you burger facts, convention talk, morality & porn, Kate's dog making masturbatory noises, voiceovers in porn, and a discussion on Backpage.com  Support us on Patreon!

25 Sep 201959min

Where there's a willy, there's a way! Alice is joined by past guest & co-host Silvia Saige (@silviasaigexxx) and bestselling author Josh Sabarra (@JoshSabarra) to review the modernized gay porn parody remake of the 1980's classic, "9 to 5". Support us on Patreon!  Listen to Silvia's podcasts:  Sexy Funny Raw Sexual Disorientation Snag Josh's book's: Porn Again Alice Vaughn 0:09 Welcome to Two girls one Mic Where were the porn version of Rotten Tomatoes but instead of tomatoes it's just a dick whether or not it's flat direct either coast, Alice Vaughn, and with me, I have actually a guest co host, Silvia sage. Hey, Sylvia, how you doing today? I'm fantastic. How are you? I am so good. And for listeners of the show. You guys might remember Sylvia from one of our earlier episodes, Pulp Fiction. Yes, we had such a good time and I know some of you are asking where's the fat? Well, Yvette is actually on medical leave for the fall. So we are bringing back some of your favorite past guests, co hosts and their friends. And we have a friend today. We have Josh Sahara. Wait, am I pronouncing your name? Josh Sabarra 0:56 Who are you got it right on the first try. Alice Vaughn 0:58 Yes. men say the same thing to me in bed. Josh Sabarra 1:04 And here's Silvia is the professional. Yeah. Do you have such a good track record? Oh, Alice Vaughn 1:09 wait, are we still talking about the podcast or in bed? Josh Sabarra 1:13 I'll leave that up to the listeners. Alice Vaughn 1:15 People are already looking for like the Yelp of like porn and sex. Right. Silvia Saige 1:20 What is Alice's score? I wish I had a Yelp review of sex. I'd love to read it. Oh my god. Would we Unknown Speaker 1:26 actually want that? I would. Yeah, I heard that one. Josh Sabarra 1:29 I mean, isn't that what Twitter is? anyway? Really? Silvia Saige 1:33 Kinda. Alice Vaughn 1:35 I mean, yeah, I guess for one night stance. You know what, as long as it could be anonymous, because I feel like I would definitely be able to get better anonymous scores. Yeah, anonymous is the best way to go. Josh Sabarra 1:45 Yeah. But what would the intent be of this website with this these to improve people's sexual performance? Or would it be to because you know, people are going to use it as a way to, you know, a punitive way to treat their acts like Silvia Saige 1:58 I say, improve sexual performance. Because it's really hard to tell somebody to their face what they've done wrong, but it's really easy to tell your friend what they did wrong. So how easy would it be to tell the Yelp of sexuality what they did wrong? And then they could go read it and be like, Ah, this whole time, I thought I was doing that right. And you're like, Oh, you're so wrong. Alice Vaughn 2:16 I thought I like they liked it when I gave t. Silvia Saige 2:20 This whole time. everybody's like, Oh, it's too much. Stop. Stop. Stop, stop, stop. Yeah, that's what I do when I don't like it. I'm like, Oh, it's too much stuff. Stop, stop. Josh Sabarra 2:29 It's just too much pleasure for you to handle. Silvia Saige 2:32 How much pleasure Yeah, you're killing me. Alice Vaughn 2:36 But no, seriously, you're choking me too hard. I think you are killing. He almost broke my hyoid bone. Five stars felt like Cheryl marcher. Yeah. Unknown Speaker 2:46 Five stars. Alice Vaughn 2:48 Five stars. So, Josh, you wrote a book also called porn again? Yeah. Okay. I'm really embarrassed. You sent me a copy and I haven't opened it. Oh my Silvia Saige 2:58 god. It's so good. You have to Read it Alice. It's like, in a day. It's addicting. Josh Sabarra 3:03 I mean, it doesn't come with a better cover quote than that. Yeah. Definitely asking Sylvia for a blurb for my third book. You got it. Alice Vaughn 3:12 Okay, so you have enemies closer, which is your latest right? Josh Sabarra 3:16 enemies closer. Yes. Which is a Hollywood bitchy fiction, Jackie Collins style type book. Yeah, I wanted to be, you know, sort of a contemporary take on those books that were very popular in the 80s. Things like Judith Krantz, I'll take Manhattan or Iris Rainer Dart the boys in the mail room, sort of a contemporary throwback, if that makes sense. And that came after porn again. Alice Vaughn 3:41 What's porn again about for our audience. Josh Sabarra 3:43 I tell people it's basically coming of age memoir about coming. So it's about coming into yourself coming out. You know, I sort of found my footing late. I was a late bloomer. I was a virgin until I was 31 years old. I've completely made up for lost time. You know, I was somebody who made my career my focus made everything around me my focus instead of my personal life and when I finally realized what I was sacrificing and and not even living my truth, and that's sort of what the books about and sort of coming to a place where I'm comfortable with myself and having to let go of the things that were keeping me from being myself and there there are a lot of factors It was my personal life, the kinds of friends I was choosing my career plastic surgery, my looks like everything that I was using to fill myself up other than the things that I should have been. I mean, that means different things to different people, but I was not making the right choices for myself. Silvia Saige 4:37 I don't think any of us made the right choices for ourselves. Especially in our teens, and Josh Sabarra 4:42 I guess we know after Unknown Speaker 4:46 Oh, in hindsight, I fucked up my 20s Yeah, Silvia Saige 4:48 I feel like the 20s are for fucking up and then your 30s or for fixing the things you fucked up in your 20s and then in your 40s you can finally enjoy it. Josh Sabarra 4:56 Right. My problem is though is that I know had that period of time that 16 to 25 where people are making some of these choices, right? Because I started so late, so I sort of had a delayed adolescence. So I was behaving like I was 18 when I was 35. Right. So that's sort of part of the theme of the book. Yeah. How it's never too late to sort of step into your own skin. Alice Vaughn 5:21 Oh, yes. I can't wait to read it. I hope Unknown Speaker 5:25 you will. Alice Vaughn 5:26 And I will link it in the show notes. So our audience can also read it right. So that's it. How did you meet Sylvia? It seems like you know, a lot of people in porn, and I know a lot of people in porn, but why do you know people in porn? Josh Sabarra 5:38 Well, it's interesting. The reason that the book is called porn, again, is sort of in the message of the book, so I don't want to ruin it for readers. I did not work in the porn industry. But there is a reason why the book is called that and the role that porn played in my sort of finding myself. Because of that, I wound up doing some radio shows and some podcasts with some great people, one of whom was Jackie St. James, whom we know and love as one of the preeminent directors of adult entertainment. And Jackie had mentioned to me one time we were at dinner, and I think she had just done a movie with Sylvia. She knows I'm very particular about people I keep around me now. She said to me, You really need to meet Silvia sage. And I said, Okay, you know, I'd love to meet her sometime. Maybe I'll come by when you're shooting. Then piers Paris, who's a friend of mine, who we're going to discuss today. He, we know because he did a photo, a promotional photo shoot with me for my book, and he and I became friends. And he and Sylvia are friends. And he and I were having dinner one night, and he said to me, you know, who you would love stage. So now we have the second person who knows me fairly well, who's telling me I need to know her. And then our other mutual friend Sean, who works on some of Jackie's movies and I believe just made his directorial debut that you're in. So yes, he did. Yeah. And he said to me, You Have to meet Silvia stage. So by the time the third person whom you owe interest tells you that you need to have somebody in your life, you need to set about making contact. And I think they know exactly how he texted me and she said, Is it okay if I just give Sylvia your number? And so I said, Of course so Sylvia texted me that day. She's like, Are you free for dinner tonight? And I'm like, it just so happens I am. And Silvia and I had a love affair began. Silvia Saige 7:24 It's so true. You know, it's funny Alice's people were telling me the same thing, but I needed to meet this man, but I had no idea who he was. I didn't do any research. And I thought they were setting me up on a date. I had no idea that they were setting me up on like this friendship. I was like, oh, everybody keeps telling me I need to meet this guy. Like, I'm going like, let's do. Josh Sabarra 7:49 Little did she know. Yeah, I wouldn't have it any other way. She had a penis and then I would, Alice Vaughn 7:56 oh my god, I can't even imagine Josh Sabarra 7:58 if she had the right anatomy. She's the Absolutely my kinda guy. Oh, thank you darling Alice Vaughn 8:05 well that is what strap ons are for. Silvia Saige 8:08 Right? Josh Sabarra 8:09 I guess we can I guess there's ways to make anything work there's always a way where there's a will a there's a way right Unknown Speaker 8:18 man I should make that my new life motto. Alice Vaughn 8:21 I mean it works for so many instances. Yes work yes. Mm hmm affairs maybe Josh Sabarra 8:30 I see a T shirt and I see a two girls one Mike t shirt where there's a will there's a way Alice Vaughn 8:36 you know I will team up on it and it'll become part of our official merchandise so I would love it. So we ended up watching and you recommended this film. And I'm actually so embarrassed to say I never watched the original so nine to five I had neither until last night. Josh Sabarra 8:53 I know that our that the listeners that cannot see my mouth on the floor. Especially out there. With your sense of humor, Alice Vaughn 9:01 I'm a terrible person. Josh Sabarra 9:03 I know I'm older than both of you, but Alice Vaughn 9:05 I'm always a child on this podcast. Actually, no, I take that back. Now that I'm interviewing some younger porn stars. I'm not always the young one on the show. I Josh Sabarra 9:14 was actually alive for the theatrical release of nine to five. So that puts anything in perspective. Alice Vaughn 9:21 And it came out in 1980. And I have to watch it because it has Jane Fonda Dolly Parton, and I didn't realize this, but it's out of the American films Institute's hundred funniest movies. Number 74. I didn't know this. Josh Sabarra 9:35 It was really I mean, this is one of the things Sylvie and I were discussing last night when we watch we actually watch nine to five before we watch breaking Mr. Hart, which is the adult film we're going to discuss. Yeah, it's interesting how ahead of its time the movie was in terms of equal pay, women in the workplace, all of that is very, very clearly addressed. And that was in you know, obviously the movie came out in 1980, which means that the shot Probably in 79 is my guess. So it was very forward. And we were laughing at how some of not laughing I mean, it's laughing through the tears so to speak, because somebody we're addressing that are so pertinent. Mm hmm. I was Alice Vaughn 10:13 reading the synopsis on Wikipedia. And you're right, because ultimately, so the premise of nine to five from what it seems like is, I mean, we're all kind of familiar with the trope of the horrible boss and how do we get back at the horrible loss and people team up to you know, enact their revenge but a nine to five, where they essentially end up doing is kind of and correct me if I'm wrong, kidnapping their boss, and then bettering their workplace Josh Sabarra 10:39 eventually. Yeah, so the famous line from the movie is that he's a sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical bigot, and that's the line that they repeat in the movie multiple times. Alice Vaughn 10:49 Yeah. Are you sure that's just not my ex boyfriend? Josh Sabarra 10:52 Very well. Big. Maybe you were dating Mr. Hart. Their boss is this horrible man who's extremely upset. Access and he's sort of a walking me to before that movement was even, you know, in the vernacular. So essentially there comes a point where they need to kidnap him. And during that time they make the workplace a better place. Alice Vaughn 11:14 Yeah. And what's really interesting is at the very end, this I found really interesting how they decided to tie up Mr. Hart's storyline in the original film, which is he does such a great job that he's promoted to I think like Brazil, right where eventually he's kidnapped and never heard from again. So moral of the story is murder is not always wrong. Not you're a racist. Josh Sabarra 11:40 When you're a sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical bigot. Anyway, I think that also they, you know, the idea that it showed, you know, what a horrible person he was and that the advancement, but his advancement was on the backs of these women who have done the work to get him to that place, which is really the message that that I think that movie tries to drive Alice Vaughn 12:00 Yeah, so we ended up watching breaking Mr. Hart and I, I like that they use the main villains name in the title. And so they at least carry that over and they've modernized it essentially. So the film Silvia Saige 12:11 Yeah, they carried over a few things we were noticing last night there were a lot of nods. Yeah, original money mainly like characters, character names and things of that nature. But I mean, the premise in general was similar, but I mean, obviously, it's not quite the same because you can't have a play of being the misogynist. They still kind of did play on that, but it's just a different way, I guess. Alice Vaughn 12:34 But who am I to judge considering on this show? You're now a porn critic, you are to judge so three scenarios that the guys were basically stuck in that they want to enact revenge on Mr. Hart. So the first guy was interesting because Mr. Hurd essentially coerced him into having sex with him But before that, putting on a tight little white Speedo, and of course the tight little white Speedo has to come off Somehow, so they decide to go the creative route and have it essentially explode. Oh my god that is so hard. it lands on a roof. I think we Josh Sabarra 13:10 need to run this movie back one second because before we even get to the exploding Speedo, the funniest part to me was here we have max Adonis, who is the employee and he comes in he says that he didn't bring anything to swim in. Yeah. So Mr. Hart brings out a pair of speedos, but when max takes his pants off, he's wearing basically boxer briefs. So what he's wearing is basically made for swimming. Silvia Saige 13:39 You have to take those off, you know, put on nobody takes Unknown Speaker 13:41 as off lately Josh Sabarra 13:44 to put on the white Speedo so that when he kneels down, the speedo can explode on him and land on the roof. And there's so much fabric on the roof that you could rock the house Silvia Saige 13:55 right with 20 times more material. Alice Vaughn 13:59 Clear there's Probably what 20 exploded speedos on the roof. Two dozen of them. Right? How many ways has Mr. Hart done this? He clearly knows it works. Its power move. Right clearly, but I really appreciated the underwater nudity cam. I don't know about you guys. I did appreciate the enter button Silvia Saige 14:17 at Josh Sabarra 14:18 the water was a little murky. Silvia Saige 14:20 It did need to be cleaned. But yeah, Josh Sabarra 14:22 yeah, the pool looked like it needed a skimming. Alice Vaughn 14:26 Where's the pool boy when you need them? Josh Sabarra 14:28 Yeah, this was that porn movie where the pool was conspicuously absent. And then they start giving each other hand jobs underwater until they finally move to the grass. You know, outside the house, right? Silvia Saige 14:41 Where we fast forward. Exactly. Well, Josh Sabarra 14:43 I may have watched it again later. Or maybe Silvia Saige 14:46 not. I was going to say now you have the link so you can go home but I was like, I don't really need to watch porn with my friend. It's just like, there comes a point where it's the insertion. I'm like, All right, we're moving on moving on. Josh Sabarra 14:58 And also when you use No these people are you've met these people it is totally defined it is all different thing. Yeah, Paris Paris i think is is such a handsome, gorgeous strapping guy, but because I know him so well, I don't look at him in, in a sexual way at all right, right. So when I see that I find it kind of hard to, to, but we haven't gotten to his scene yet. So anyway, I don't want to ruin the story for everyone else. Alice Vaughn 15:26 No, but I totally relate because I mean, and Sylvia you get it because you know, you become friends with people in the industry. And you know, having all these people on my show, I get to know them and become friends and we're texting and next thing you know, I see a scene where Tommy pistol in it. And I'm like, I need to see this. I know Tommy, right. And he's texting me like, he's like, Hey, Alice, can I send you like a video of me putting my dick in my butthole and I'm like, Tommy, I don't need to see that. Silvia Saige 15:55 I love Tommy's work. The thing about Tommy's work is it's never really stuck. That's what's hilarious about it. Tommy is the only guy who does porn who doesn't make it sexy for years, and they'll never quit working. It's hilarious. He's the most comical porn person I've ever met in my entire life. Josh Sabarra 16:14 But you know what i like Alice, that you mentioned about, you know, having friendships and relationships with people whom you've seen in these movies. And, you know, the idea that these are real people behind these performers. And you know, that's one of the things that I think Silvia works very hard to do, particularly on her podcast, you know, she works very hard to make sure that people are aware of that behind, you know, the sex worker sort of label are some wonderful, fantastic people who have a lot to offer you know, and I love that you just mentioned that that you have relationships with people in the industry because I think it's time for people to reframe their thinking a little bit o Alice Vaughn 16:57 listeners of this podcast know that you know, porn stars are people you know, just like any other creative just like comedians, artists, musicians, just Josh Sabarra 17:05 like any other kind of work. Alice Vaughn 17:07 Yeah, exactly. And people should pay for their porn because I hate what the tube sites have done. I mean, we could go on tangents right now. But getting back to the review, Josh Sabarra 17:20 yes. breaking your heart. Yes. So have we moved past the max Adonis Dean Phoenix scene? Alice Vaughn 17:26 Pretty much we're on to the sexual blackmail scene. Okay, Silvia Saige 17:29 recording. He recorded that and having sex in his home or in their home. I can't remember. Josh Sabarra 17:34 Well, it looked like Missy Hart. And that was the same name from the original 95 Franklin Hart's wife was named Missy, Alice Vaughn 17:42 do you think they cast Nina Hartley just because they were like, she has heart in her name? Josh Sabarra 17:47 Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm sure she's lovely. But I don't think it was because she missed a role. It's Meryl Streep. Alice Vaughn 17:56 Excuse you but Meryl Streep, you know, she was waiting For that call. Josh Sabarra 18:01 I know, I know who she really wanted breaking Mr. Hart and I think between Big Little Lies season two, there just wasn't time probably. Silvia Saige 18:10 I think they probably wanted somebody that was familiar with the movie and kind of could give it a good omnipage because I don't think a lot of younger girls would have even known of the movie, you know. So I think it was the entry Josh Sabarra 18:24 looks great, by the way, right? I mean, and I joke, I mean, she did a great job. And she definitely tipped her hat or wig or whatever, to Marian Mercer who played that character in nine to five. I thought it was great to sort of see her that way. Yeah, it was fun. And then an actual roll like that is fun. Yeah, Alice Vaughn 18:44 I always love it. When porn stars have non sexual roles just for the fun of picking up acting Silvia Saige 18:49 ideal time. Josh Sabarra 18:50 You just want to warn Sylvia you just want to go and get that category. Silvia Saige 18:55 I just love being on the gay porn sets. They are so much better than being on straight. porn sets and I have so much fun there. So anytime they're like, actually, I'm doing an extra for men calm tomorrow I work as an extra for them like all the time and for dirt change. They pay me nothing and I show up like yay. Alice Vaughn 19:12 So there's my question which sets us more lube? Oh god straight or gay porn. It's gotta be gay. It's gotta be, is it? I don't know. Josh Sabarra 19:25 I can't answer that. I think Silvia Saige 19:27 so. Because at least with us on straight sets, there's a lot of spit. I know there's a lot of spin on gay porn too, but I just feel like because it's all anal over there. It there's just a lot more loose on us gay porn said it's probably always necessary whereas on a porn site, it's not necessary all the time. Fair. Yeah, unless you're me and you haven't dried out Lizzie and then it is always. Alice Vaughn 19:53 Sometimes you wake up feeling like sandpaper. Josh Sabarra 19:56 I would not imagine that because whenever I see you, you look so hard to graded. Silvia Saige 20:00 Oh, thank you. I think I have a home to hydration just stops at my face and then Josh Sabarra 20:08 like here it just it just hasn't worked its way down. Silvia Saige 20:12 I know somebody told me other day they're like you need to change your diet. I was like I have like the world helping us diet. I don't know what else I could do. I just think it's age. So age just catches up and just pulls out the moisture from your PC. That's just what Josh Sabarra 20:29 I can't even speak to that. Alice Vaughn 20:32 You know, we need to get an aesthetician on the show and be like Look, I know about moisturizing and hydrating the face. What do I do down there? right we do Josh Sabarra 20:39 you know there is a procedure that's I'm sure they have this in New York. I'm sure it's all over but the the J shell. Have you heard of those stuff? No vaginal facials. Silvia Saige 20:48 I don't know about this one. My vagina eautiful it doesn't need like dip hopping. Josh Sabarra 20:53 I can't speak to it because I don't have the anatomy nor the interest but I would say to look that up because I know some people who have gone for it's like I don't know the exact procedure but it basically is like the attention that you get on a facial but in your Alice Vaughn 21:11 vagina. Wow. So from a quick search, it looks like it's the quote revitalizing 20 minute treatment is meant to be done post bikini wax to aid the removal and prevention of ingrown hairs and acting while smoothing the skin and treating discoloration. So, Silvia is still gonna have a tripod See, I don't have any of that my vaginas, gorgeous outside. Josh Sabarra 21:32 I think it depends on where you go. Yeah, Alice, I think they offer more extensive services at other places. That sounds like an express magician, Silvia Saige 21:41 and express. Alice Vaughn 21:44 Can there be a drive to have a j show? Josh Sabarra 21:46 Clearly Silvia needs the full 60 Silvia Saige 21:48 right. I need a full dream. Josh Sabarra 21:50 She wants the mask and everything. Silvia Saige 21:53 The hydration mask that's Alice Vaughn 21:57 how do I get the dollar menu facial or vision What's that look like? Silvia Saige 22:03 No way. All the money on your vagina. There's a new song out right now and it's like talks about like counting the money and he hears that sound He's like, ever since the check came in, like, do you know what I'm talking about? a rap song? Never mind. Unknown Speaker 22:17 No way our audience might know. Josh Sabarra 22:20 You know who you're talking to. I mean, I'm listening to share. Silvia Saige 22:26 You were listening to some vinyl album this morning that when I was like loving Yeah, Josh Sabarra 22:30 Rita Coolidge all time high, which was the theme song from speaking of vaginas, it was the theme song from Octopussy was the James Bond movie in 1983. Right? We have also not yet well, we can watch that Roger Moore and Ron Adams. I'm totally dating myself, but I'm fine with that. Silvia Saige 22:51 Doesn't he look like he's in his 20s I love how he says he dates themselves and he still looks like he's fucking 22 year when Josh Sabarra 22:57 my references are from for both of you are born. combined. But I have avoided Alice, the vinyl craze. And then it sort of hit me because the nostalgia factor like I started, I'd be in a store and I'd see these records that I had as a kid. And I was seven or eight years old sitting in my room listening. I mean, what seven or eight year old is sitting in their room listening to read a Coolidge all time high. But I was. And so I have gone on this mission to sort of find any of the things I don't still have to find him by the records that I had in the 80s. Alice Vaughn 23:32 I love it, or the late 70s. Is there a holy grail of records you're still looking for? Josh Sabarra 23:37 I've found sort of all of it. One of the ones I looked for for a while was the kids from fame, which was a TV show based on the movie fame. And they did an album with kids from fame. Took me a minute, but I haven't now so everything's okay in the world. Your collections complete. Isn't it neat? Do you think like elections Complete. I have thingamabobs galore. Silvia Saige 24:03 Don't make me because I'll start singing that song and it will not be good. Josh Sabarra 24:07 I feel like I got so off track because we were talking about I think it was the blackmail scene with Remy Cruz and goodie box. Um, you also have no right so yeah, I don't know him but you know, I know ramie but I don't know what he Silvia Saige 24:22 I know what he he's great. He's no longer in pornography, but he's a fantastic human being. I don't think Remy Unknown Speaker 24:27 is either. Yeah. Silvia Saige 24:28 And what he's circlet in Las Vegas. So if you had to Las Vegas, you're seeing the search show. There might be your boy. Flexibility comes in handy. Yeah, it does. It was a good hot scene, though. I will say that would have been a scene that like I would watch. It was really hot between the two of them. Josh Sabarra 24:48 I agree. I mean, there was a little bit of a blackmail scenario and in the original nine to five, but this sort of took it to a different level, right? I mean, that that part of the plotting is totally totally off. Silvia Saige 25:01 Right? They all needed to have something against Mr. Hart. Like he had, you know, Josh Sabarra 25:06 yeah, but one thing I should also say is props to dp wells who wrote and directed this movie because he clearly has an affinity for the source material because even the artwork the key art for the movie, it looks exactly like the car from the original nine to five Silvia Saige 25:25 poster. Josh Sabarra 25:26 I know right because it when we talk a little later about some of the things that they threw in there are these little inside nods to the movie that somebody had been a mega fan. Alice Vaughn 25:35 Well, you're gonna have to tell me because I never watched Well, we will tell you. And then we have the third guy and his gripe with Mr. Hart and understandable which is, so he's seduced by Mr. Hart's assistant. And then while blindfolded fucking the assistant, Mr. Hart decides to have a round which is not okay and Technically rape, right, let's call it whatever it is, you know. So yeah, that's a problem but there Josh Sabarra 26:06 was one there was another one where they did at least make sure that the assistant I think they called him Darrin or Darrell and his assistant. The movie was Dolly Parton. Who was Dora Lee. So they kept the DS, you know, Alice Vaughn 26:19 good call Silvia Saige 26:19 didn't even notice that one. That's a good call. Yeah, Alice Vaughn 26:22 no, it was really interesting is that after he is seduced by you know, and has this whole scenario play out with Mr. Hart. He wanders around his house. And so this is where, like, really, he goes to the backyard to like the back of the shed and there's a paper file cabinet that's like barely covered in trash bags. And in it is all of his important documents and of course blackmail, because that's where you keep the important shit in something that's easily going to be destroyed in the next thunderstorm easily Josh Sabarra 26:57 right in your backyard, under attack. Silvia Saige 27:00 Barely I cannot say anything to this because like if you were to ever break into my apartment I would be the easiest person to rob because my safe is Carrie able Josh Sabarra 27:13 I don't even need to unlock it they can just leave with it. Silvia Saige 27:16 Get away. Josh Sabarra 27:19 I'm not sure that a portable safe makes any sense. Silvia Saige 27:23 whatsoever and then I had to tell a friend where it was when I was out of town and they were like this is the worst. Probably Josh Sabarra 27:32 it's like there was soda cans or those pet rocks that people hide keys and are they jewelry in the refrigerator? They put like they have a can that looks like RC cola. Just says like our cola. Yeah. People keep in their fridge with jewelry. Yeah, cuz no wouldn't go and look for the first brand. Silvia Saige 27:52 Yeah, that's me with my important paperwork and cash. So Josh Sabarra 27:58 yeah, nothing good happens under it. You know, Alice Vaughn 28:00 maybe Mr. Hart is more relatable than we think. Silvia Saige 28:04 Yeah. Josh Sabarra 28:06 Not good at. And also like the kind of business that they're all in is very vague. I did hear something in the first scene where they talked about it being something mutual funds or something other but it was very vague. A nine to five was sort of like that, too. I was gonna Silvia Saige 28:23 say, I'm not sure what they did nine to five. Yeah, Josh Sabarra 28:26 right. The company was called consolidated. And it had something to do with the shipping or transport of goods. But it was a little vague as to what the company itself did. And breaking Mr. Hart was going through the same thing. They sort of nailed it now. Alice Vaughn 28:41 This is so off topic, but I know you mentioned pet rocks before. I mean, maybe they were in that business. I mean, do you guys know how many pet rocks are sold? I know this sounds so silly. No, please don't know. But I know it is Josh Sabarra 28:53 a huge it's like a big thing right? Alice Vaughn 28:55 There were 1.5 million pet rock, soul, bucking crazy. I'm sorry, can I say that? I'm sorry? Of course, dude, I want a porn podcast. Okay, Josh Sabarra 29:04 no Silvia, we're gonna need you to clean up your act for the Unknown Speaker 29:07 podcast. Silvia Saige 29:11 I always tell people like I do not do clean comedy. Don't put me in that room. I don't even know when that bombs come out of my mouth. It just don't put me around your children don't put me in a church and will be Alice Vaughn 29:24 if people put me around their children, it's their fault. It's I say this day, Josh Sabarra 29:28 right? I cannot contain this. They need to be accountable. Silvia Saige 29:32 Right? They had the children not me, not my doing. Look, in my Alice Vaughn 29:36 defense, you're gonna have to explain this stuff to your children anyway, it's, it's not my fault that they have to learn when it comes sloughed is early on in life. Okay? Yeah. Silvia Saige 29:46 Yeah, take teach them young. Teach them young. Josh Sabarra 29:49 That's what I say. But how many people get to learn and then have it in the flesh example right there at the same time. You really, you really are providing a service. Unknown Speaker 30:00 Mommy wants to come. Unknown Speaker 30:02 Well honey. Unknown Speaker 30:06 That's not even wrong. Silvia Saige 30:08 It's mommy's friend Sylvia and Alice Vaughn 30:11 imagine like if mommy were to go to a waterpark, but it's all white. Right. Silvia Saige 30:18 With lots of digs. Josh Sabarra 30:19 I think that's the good analogy. Lots of Fountains fountains, I've just pictured lazy river of semen. Oh my god. I feel like I've been there. A sex themed adult theme park would be great. Right? Alice Vaughn 30:33 Japan should get on it. Yeah, Josh Sabarra 30:35 like there could be like, tip of the penis revolving restaurant up to the top and it goes around. Just think of all the things we could do. Alice Vaughn 30:46 What would be the teacup ride instead of spinning tea cups? Clearly a bottle? Josh Sabarra 30:51 Oh, yeah, it would be some kind of it would be called like the rim wheel. Silvia Saige 30:54 Yeah, get in the rim. Yeah, Alice Vaughn 30:56 yeah. When mommy has to go to the ATM. It's a different kind of ATM. Smell baby asked him out. Josh Sabarra 31:02 But it would be interesting to have a sex themed theme park when that Alice Vaughn 31:06 should have been Walt Disney's vision from the beginning he needed to drop the anti semitism. It probably Silvia Saige 31:11 was Walt Disney's vision and he got obscured i'd feel like well, Disney was a dirty fuck. So, Dixon, like all of his movies, every single one, you failed us. Josh Sabarra 31:22 Okay, so wait, so we have the character going and finding his personal information and Mr. Hart's yard under a tar? Alice Vaughn 31:29 Yeah. And then we find out that apparently once he's confronted by Nina Hartley and decides to just chat with her and have some drinks, she actually owns the company. So Mr. Hart actually married into the job, right and the only reason that they haven't separated is because of the prenup. So Josh Sabarra 31:49 the prenup that completely works in her favor. Yeah. And that if he ever has an affair, the entire fortune because to her Right, exactly. So they come up with a plan. She's on the beach in Australia at some Alice Vaughn 32:03 Yeah. And she makes the world's fastest flight back from Australia. I totally am Australia that shit is nightmarishly long it is 17 hours no jet lag Josh Sabarra 32:14 no time difference are we was on point she had gloves she'd read driving she was like dress to kill seven times store clothing Alice Vaughn 32:24 yeah and they expect this Australian flight to land on time so that way to have the other guys can be seducing and having a pillow fight with Mr. Hart. And then of course she'll end up coming home and walking around early on him breaking his prenup claws and the pillow fight Josh Sabarra 32:40 was funny because it was so did you see how going through the motions they were with the pillow fight like no feathers flying? It was a one to the two Yeah, it was staged combat. Silvia Saige 32:54 plan does not go as it's supposed to obviously because what do men want? Anything they can't have. So when he could have sex with these people when they were bringing it to him, he of course, had wanted nothing to do with it. So what did he have to do when he poisoned him? I can't even remember now was that what happened? Yes, he Josh Sabarra 33:14 put poison is poison to knockout Mr. Hart. Now if you'll recall in the original nine to five, there is a plotline whereby the Lily Tomlin character accidentally poisons Mr. or thinks she poisons Mr. Hart because instead of using bleach, she uses rat poison and right. And so that was definitely a nod your original Alice Vaughn 33:37 so I was watching actually the scene where Mr. Hart is clearly knocked out on the couch. And then the two other guys who came in to seduce him just end the fucking next to him. So my friend walks in, and he's like, is that guy dead? He didn't look dead. Josh Sabarra 33:52 But also, I think we're not giving enough attention to the CGI and special effects for this film. Because you're This sequence you may have noticed that while Mr. Hart is passed out and the other two gentlemen are engaging in sexual activity, they're taking pictures of themselves with the passed out body. And we see screenshots still shots next to the video. Yeah, did I miss this? The whole budget had to have gone to CGI. Unknown Speaker 34:19 Hey, no. How do you go back and watch this? Alice Vaughn 34:23 spend it on only the exploding underwear. Josh Sabarra 34:27 Underwear was this puts that to shame shit. Silvia Saige 34:30 Yeah, they definitely brought in their highest paid editor and splashed a few photos on the screen next to the sacks so shots. Yeah, yeah. Josh Sabarra 34:43 supermodel god damn it. It was great. It was great. It was great. And then we find that Mrs. Hart says that her husband has been sent to Brazil. Just like in nine to five Silvia Saige 34:58 Yeah, she walks in finds him They're done. Let's see it. Josh Sabarra 35:02 And then you'll notice there's one point where Pierce pulls out a name on a card. I think it's I don't know if it's supposed to be as it gets in his file. And on the card it says that the name is Cole Higgins. And Colin Higgins is the person who wrote and directed the original nine to five Silvia Saige 35:19 and only you have to take that out. Alice Vaughn 35:21 Yeah. What a nice nod. Josh Sabarra 35:22 GP wells who put this together clearly is a fan of the original movie because, I mean, it would take another huge fan, right, isn't it? Yeah. Or I should say, which is I Alice Vaughn 35:35 didn't notice that. What I found interesting is that they chose to do a CD instead of a hard drive in 2018. Josh Sabarra 35:43 Maybe that also was a nod. Although I don't think at 1980 they even I mean we didn't have CDs right? I mean, didn't you notice they'll be like a nine to five like even they were had their landline telephones yeah may even had the thing that holds it holds the receiver Hold the receiver up to their ear. Silvia Saige 36:02 Yeah. And you thought that was like such a cool thing to have. Because I used to have one of those when I worked in corporate America, and I thought it was awesome, because I was on the phone all the time. It was so convenient. Josh Sabarra 36:11 But it is interesting to go back and see certain movies, you know, and having to take them for what they are. Right for. There were cell phones there before there were because now how many thrillers would we see that would be wrapped up in two seconds? Right, right, like 9 million of these movies from 1980. If you went back and added a cell phone problem Alice Vaughn 36:30 would be solved. The Gossip Girl wouldn't exist. And that was in the early 2000s. Right, right. There you go. Actually, Seinfeld, I felt like most of the scenarios could have been cleared up with a text message Silvia Saige 36:43 text, right? Yeah, hundred percent. Josh Sabarra 36:45 It's funny how some time and advancements can really change plotting, right? It's character driven stuff that you go back and you watch that doesn't I mean, like the themes of nine to five, you can take all of the rest of this out of it, the things that we're talking about, and the themes are still so relevant. Alice Vaughn 37:01 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, what's it Horrible Bosses built on the same premise? kinda Silvia Saige 37:06 similar? Yeah, but they had different bosses. Not one boss. Yeah. Alice Vaughn 37:09 Yeah. I mean, everybody kind of I feel like has had one boss at some point in time that they just want to stick it to. So, share is so relatable anyway. So yeah, and having worked Josh Sabarra 37:19 in Hollywood for 25 years, I had some of the worst that exists. Do you want to spell? I think you hear about some of them implanting. I Silvia Saige 37:26 was gonna say, and you did kind of stick it to them. So in the most literal sense, Josh Sabarra 37:32 people get what they deserve. True. And it's funny how you know, you know, it's the funniest thing is you get people who will show up at book signings who have an entirely different idea of what your relationship with them was. You know, like years later, they show up. It's like the frenemy type people who you know, are the first people to buy your work. Silvia Saige 37:51 Right, right. Josh Sabarra 37:53 And I will get some of those beautiful, like, you should see sometimes like, it's shocking, like who I'll see Weapons certain things and I always write in their books things like wishing you all the happiness you deserve because really only they know how much that is. Alice Vaughn 38:14 I mean that's why sometimes if I'm having a shitty day and someone is being asked to me I'll just say I hope your days as pleasant as you are, right? Josh Sabarra 38:21 Yes. Yeah. The best thing is when you can you know when you can say those little things to somebody who's not being good to you. And you can say something that's one of those like little like nuanced hidden gems that you can pat yourself on the back for they don't even know they've been installed. Did you feel better? Yeah. Those are the back. Alice Vaughn 38:41 You mean every shower moment I've ever had? Yeah. Josh Sabarra 38:46 Clearly, yeah. Alice Vaughn 38:47 So this is story from porn, again, out of curiosity come to mind, because I mean, I know I'm gonna read the whole thing, but you mentioned LIKE A BOSS sticking it to Josh Sabarra 38:57 the purpose of it is not to stick it to anybody. And I didn't name anybody and I, you know, some of them are composites of people. But it was to sort of show how the industry has a way, if you're somebody who already doesn't feel good about yourself, which was me for a very long time, never feeling good enough. And, you know, working in Hollywood is one of the worst places that you can look for your sense of self. So that was really, you know, I sort of turned a hobby and a passion into a career. But it was really the worst thing for my spirit because I was working with people who you know, just want to beat you down or, you know, Hollywood's an industry where it's very easy to fail upward. You know, there's very little about it. Science, it's more of a it's not a quantifiable business. Yes. You know, how many, you know how much money a movie made at the box office or whatever, but it's very easy to sort of be mediocre and succeed, and very territorial, and they want to stay in their job. Amen to that. Yeah. And people want to stay in their jobs and they don't want to be you know, they don't want to be found out. It's like the Emperor's New Clothes, right? And so the easiest way to do that is to put other people down and make people feel not good about themselves. And I feel like I dealt with that for a lot of years. And as somebody who already didn't feel good enough, it was the last place to look for self esteem. Alice Vaughn 40:16 Yeah, and it's so easy to I mean, God not have self esteem in LA cheese's. I went over for one week. There's two situations I ever feel that I need to go to the gym more and the first is whatever I'm at a porn conference or the specifically the ABA ends. Holy shit you ladies are resources are just Josh Sabarra 40:39 right, but also you have to remember that Silvia is in the business of being beautiful. Silvia Saige 40:43 Yeah. My job Josh Sabarra 40:45 yeah, and her look like that. No, I mean, I admire it and I think it's amazing that she's as gorgeous as she is. But you know, I look at these guys like I look at piers, I'm Alice Vaughn 40:55 not putting you down, trust me. No, of course. Ultimate fits bow. That's all I'm saying, Josh Sabarra 41:01 believe me, I look at like peers like we go out to dinner and I see how he eats and how he has to stay looking a certain way. And you see, I mean in breaking Mr. Hart, his body is on full display. And I can never be that person. I am never going to have those abs because I'm always going to have pizza. And then I say to everyone else, eat your salad and be sad, but I'm going to have my Alice Vaughn 41:26 Wait, we came up with another shirt, eat your salad and be sad. Josh Sabarra 41:31 You heard it here. Alice Vaughn 41:33 Okay, so that said we do have some patrons to think so this week we want to thank Bethany Aiden Ferran stock, Mike sorbets, ko priest pilot Elisa Falco. Hi, Andrew Gore, Matthew Kolb, rowdy Steven Jones, Bob Dole rental, Neil hallstrom, Neil Simpson, Michael Gad, and many, many others. And by the way, if you want to become a patron yourself, just hop on over to patreon.com slash two girls on Mike. It's also in the show notes. If you want to help Yvette out with her medical fund just head over to PSI babe calm. You can follow all of our stuff and shenanigans on either Facebook our website, our Twitter account tg o m podcast, but Sylvia and Josh, where can our listeners find more of you guys? Silvia Saige 42:18 Yeah, you can find me online. I'm Silvia sage, si LVIA si g you can find me on all social media platforms there or you can find my podcast sexy, funny role on all places where you can find podcast I Heart Radio, iTunes, Stitcher, and you can also find my second podcast sexual disorientation with Dr. Romney to bosma on iTunes and all podcast platforms. I will Alice Vaughn 42:43 link to those in the show notes and Josh, where can our listeners find you? Josh Sabarra 42:47 You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at Josh cervera jo sh s A Ba ra and on Facebook at Josh servera author. My books are available on Amazon or wherever books are sold Barnes and Noble you name it. And I love hearing from people. So, you know, Alice Vaughn 43:05 just send all the hate mail to you know Josh Sabarra 43:08 what? Whatever you need to get out of your system. That's fine. Alice Vaughn 43:12 Perfect. So we will link to the hate mail address in the show notes as well. Josh Sabarra 43:19 Listen as long as people are paying attention. Alice Vaughn 43:21 Yeah, true. Josh Sabarra 43:23 They have a point of view. Silvia Saige 43:24 Yes. Well, Alice Vaughn 43:26 I say that until I hear a shitty point of view. Well, exactly. But guys, thanks for tuning in this week. Bye Unknown Speaker 43:33 bye. Transcribed by https://otter.ai

18 Sep 201943min

Alice is joined by guest-host Ginger Banks (@gingerbanks) and her fellow pornstar friend, Lo Valentine (@LoValentine_). The ladies watch Deadpool XXX and talk set makeup, trademarks, Star Wars prequels, bad Cosmo sex tips, fluffers, fake pop shots, conspiracy theories in porn, and more. Don't forget to leave a review!  Support us on Patreon Support Scibabe

12 Sep 201958min

Alice & Yvette are joined by comedian and Jim Jeffries Show correspondent, Curtis Cook (@Curtis_Cook), to review Archer porn...all 4 hours of it. In an episode to where we yet again praise Tommy Pistol, talk Dancing with the Stars, getting fired from the government, MS13, micropenises, Babylon Bee, and social media.  Support us on Patreon!  Watch the premiere of Crank Yankers September 25th.  Live in LA? 9/5 go see Giant Robot Comedy Night (8pm show at GRT (2062 Sawtelle Blvd.) in Sawtelle Japantow)

4 Sep 20191h

Drop and give us 20...pumps that is. This week Samantha Mac (@TheSamanthaMack), founder of Porno Bootcamp whips Alice and Yvette into shape on all topics bootcamp related, fidget spinner buttplugs, dresses banned on social media, voar, body positivity, and washing your junk.  Support us on Patreon to hear more from this conversation!  Yvette d'Entremont 0:09 Welcome to two girls one Mic the porn cast that once you're addicted, get down and give us 20 of your cover. See that dawn Travon, here's my lovely fabulous co host who is having a fantastic hair day Alice Vaughn Alice, how the fuck are you doing today? Baby? Alice Vaughn 0:24 I feel like I'm having a fantastic like cleavage day too, because even though Can you Yvette d'Entremont 0:28 stand up a bit, I need to I need to evaluate this as your co host and lesbian life partner if we were lesbians. That is a good cleavage day. Alice Vaughn 0:38 I'll give you we will sell mine Louie says but without the Yvette d'Entremont 0:41 death into the sunset. It's hetero life, mate. We're each other's Jay and Silent Bob. Except it's more like occasionally you interrupt me more than once to say no ticket. Oh, but uh, yeah, I mean, even though I'm part of the itty bitty titty club. I find that what's nice about having the top of a 12 year old ballerina girl, my boobs are gonna be working till I'm like 40. Right? I want to say maybe I am likewise, like now that with the amount of weight loss, they're like, they're not quite filling up my big cups anymore. But I'm like, you know what, they're not going to be in my socks. But there are advantages to all size movies and all movies that I've seen in my life. They're just all different flowers of joy. But they're just, they're wonderful. I have never had a complaint about a boob that I have seen in my life. Alice Vaughn 1:27 I've never heard someone complain about boobs. What kind of person is now don't have that person in your life. Yvette d'Entremont 1:33 You know what, here's the thing. I think I went until like my late 20s being uncomfortable with my boobs. I know it's hard on women like that. Like we see certain sizes and shapes to them. And we're told these are the good boobs. And then something something magical happens that eventually you realize, oh, there's not a boob type that men like, it's just boobs. They are good. They're all what it's you see enough of them and you go I like those. I also like that they are very different. I like them exactly. And then you realize eventually I have good boobs too. Alice Vaughn 2:01 So we have a guest today who has voluptuous breasts, though who Yvette d'Entremont 2:04 has amazing boobs speaking of boobs, she has enough boobs for the three of us combined, but it's pretty amazing to watch them on her herself. We have a legend on today and I was so excited when I watched a brief documentary and her advice about her porno boot cab Alice, let's introduce our guest today. Alice Vaughn 2:24 Today on the show we have Samantha Mack and Samantha actually, the porno boot camp is exactly how I heard about you. I think Tommy retweeted it. It was shot by Vice Canada. Yep, sure was. So how did this whole thing come about? Well, a long Samantha Mac 2:40 time ago. I was working with a director called Anna Lee. She's not called Emily, her name is Emily. And she she needed Yvette d'Entremont 2:50 new to never tell with porn. It might be a porn name. Actually. Samantha Mac 2:55 She needed a new talent and we have a lot of people applying who didn't have a lot of experience and She kind of voluntold me that I was doing porno boot camp so she sent a couple to me. She's like, go see Sam. She works with amateurs. She runs like a porno boot camp and she'll help you get the skills you need to get hired. And so I didn't want to make her out to be a liar. So I was like, Yeah, come on over. Yvette d'Entremont 3:19 Interesting thing for a friend to wholeheartedly trust you with she will make your dick better. That is it. I Samantha Mac 3:28 didn't want to make her a liar. So I had to be true so she is Unknown Speaker 3:31 the dick better upper like who is a whisper? Yvette d'Entremont 3:38 You need business cards that say that right, Sam back tech whisperer. Alice Vaughn 3:42 I will make you those business cards. Just send me your Actually I have your mailing address. I'll send you just like 500 a day. Yvette d'Entremont 3:51 Yes, just to clarify, we're saying this all because we love what you do. This is just incredible to us and we dig it so much. Alice Vaughn 3:58 Yeah, cuz we review porn. All the time. But you know, we've always kind of wanted to know a little bit more behind the scenes of what training is involved why certain men are cut out for the job and some men just aren't. And you know, watching the porno boot camp which will absolutely link in the show notes for all of Yvette d'Entremont 4:19 us have to watch this. It's like I want to see more behind the scenes on this like this has made me have so many more questions. Yeah, these guys just at one point, there's just kind of a challenge like the big thing of a video is there's a challenge of getting through eight minutes of being blown without coming and you know, getting through all the distraction like it's like you're getting blown by the best women in the industry. Can you handle it? I'm like, this is a reality show waiting to happen. How is rupert murdoch not jumped on this. I'm a horrible person that I know Alice Vaughn 4:50 it. Okay. Well, I mean, if that roger ailes jumped on it, that's how all the Fox News women were hired. Let's be Yvette d'Entremont 4:57 honest, if hell exists They're all right. But I will have friends Alice Vaughn 5:02 if the Fox News headquarters exists this challenge also exists there too. Unknown Speaker 5:07 Oh my god. Yvette d'Entremont 5:11 I'm gonna get a phone call from Fox info two girls one Mike is where you should send all hate mail By the way, where we will totally respond to it as though we care. Alice Vaughn 5:21 So, Sam, how hard is it for a guy while getting blown to come to the as close to the eight minute mark as possible. Samantha Mac 5:30 So what you see in the vice documentary is what we consider level two. There's like 13 courses, but what you saw was level two he's Yvette d'Entremont 5:38 like beat the first boss. He's on to the next castle. Samantha Mac 5:41 Yes. And then in the end you have to fight Kim Koopa Yvette d'Entremont 5:46 right, what's King Koopa I got it. It's my vagina. I would have thought like more that not that your vagina is not sufficient. I would have thought like it would have been a triple Angel thing or something like that. But like, but you know what? That is a tall mountain to climb. I am impressed. Samantha Mac 6:01 I'm only half joking on that, Alice Vaughn 6:02 that when you just rename it King fuba Samantha Mac 6:08 I'm stealing that you're allowed. I love it. That is perfect. But ya know, we, we start off with the guys coming in and just doing like a solo interview with us. And then we do a timed like a one on one timed handjob to see if they can come at the eight minute mark and the eight minute mark is less than half of what's actually required. So we start them off really easy because what we've noticed is a lot of guys last but fastest guy was 35 seconds. The average is between three and six minutes. Or we get the opposite end of the spectrum where a guy cannot come in like an hour they get a one hour time slot to ask all their questions, fill out all the paperwork and if they cannot finish within one hour, then we're like you need to go home and practice like watch some porn Yvette d'Entremont 6:54 figure out what will get you there mentally and then they Samantha Mac 6:57 get to go to what we call musical decks which was what was In the vice documentary was a musical dexis session, and the vice documentary was the first time we allowed talent to give oral pleasure. It used to only be handjobs. But for the vice documentary, we wanted to spice it up a little bit. So we allowed girls to use their mouths or everyone was tested so they could use any parts of their bodies to distract the Yvette d'Entremont 7:22 audience's sake. Explain a little bit what musical Dix entails. Oh, yeah. Samantha Mac 7:28 Okay, so if you guys haven't seen the video musical Dix is really fun, enticed them Yvette d'Entremont 7:31 into wanting to see this video, which is you guys have to see this even with a description you have to see this. Here's Alice Vaughn 7:36 a kicker, you still play the musical song Pop goes the weasel. Samantha Mac 7:42 So musical dicks evolved because Okay, we've been doing this for three years. So all the different versions of partner bootcamp have evolved because we've seen either problems or areas where we can get better and we've changed it. So musical dicks started. Because a lot of guys were coming to partner bootcamp just because they wanted to get their dinkytown Not because they want to be performers. And so by putting a bunch of naked men in the room side by side, you we know who wants to perform and who's actually trying hard versus who just wants to drink touched. So that's where musical dicks came from. It was just me like, I don't want to be naked in a room with another guy. And we're like, well, then get out, get Yvette d'Entremont 8:18 out. Because Samantha Mac 8:19 there are gonna be men in the room. When you get to a porn set. There's a boom mic and a camera person, a director and somebody running around making sure there's enough lube for everyone and you know, you're probably at somebody else's location. So the owners usually there or there's a manager like it's there's a lot of people behind the scenes somebody holding up a reflector to make sure the light is right on the table. You really got to get in there. Oh, yeah. And if we're shooting multiple scenes a day, the other talents usually sitting in the background watching, like silently cheering you on. So there can be 10 people behind the scenes for a three person scene. So that's why we created musical decks. You have to be comfortable in a room with other people, both men and women. There's no room for homophobia whatsoever. So the guys lined up, and you usually have more guys than girls. That's the trick. And girl picks a partner. And for one minute you do whatever you can to your partner to get them to ejaculate. And their job is to wait until they hear the buzzer to ejaculate. So no Unknown Speaker 9:14 matter what you do, no matter how in the men have consented to this, of course, yes. Samantha Mac 9:18 Oh, yeah, we have a 90 minute consent talk beforehand. We fill out a code of conduct form. We have huge interviews that you see beforehand, Yvette d'Entremont 9:26 do they have things they can sign off that are off limits for them? Yes, Samantha Mac 9:29 everybody. Okay, everybody goes through a giant consent talk. So that's not in the vice documentary because it's boring. Yeah. But it's very important Yvette d'Entremont 9:36 things. It's good for our audience to know that Yeah, consent Samantha Mac 9:38 and Code of Conduct are the two main things like the bulk of our time is talking about, like what you're okay with, and we always ask, Does your wife or girlfriend know you're here? Yvette d'Entremont 9:48 Get the fuck out? I wouldn't even have thought to ask that. But it makes total sense. Yeah, you're trying to keep an ethical group there, which is have you ever had a wife or girlfriend show up screaming? Samantha Mac 9:58 Not Through porno boot camp in previous years, like going back 10 years, I would have wives or girlfriends or boyfriends or husbands call me and be like, I want that video taken down. I don't want my boyfriend to have done this. And I'm like, Whoa, like he didn't even tell me like he applied, or he paid for the position or, like, that's why we bring it up right away. And I was like, if you have any secrets, if it is important for you to have no one know that you had your bits touched by me or anyone in my production, then you should not be here because the internet will tell them. Yeah, so we're very upfront. Alice Vaughn 10:33 Oh, the internet has no secrets. Yvette d'Entremont 10:34 No, your junk is forever. Yeah, I did a tiny little bit of latex modeling and the pictures were online and years later, I went into writing about science for a living and people who didn't like one of my articles, but lasted those pictures and eventually I was just like, fuck it. I looked great. Yeah, but like people attach a meeting and what they want onto that and you're forevermore that person who had their dick out Alice Vaughn 10:57 8 million people have seen me Come on a motor bunny. So Proud of you, including my dad. Yvette d'Entremont 11:02 Hey, that was a great orgasm and they enjoyed it and so did you. My parents were so not proud of me, but Samantha Mac 11:09 it's okay. Oh my God, my parents are my biggest fan. Is that weird? I don't wish my parents like help me decorate the studio. Yvette d'Entremont 11:15 Nice. Awesome. My mom knows I swear Fred people for a living and she could not be prouder. Yes, you took what you were good at naturally it worked it into a thing that you could make you money. Unknown Speaker 11:27 Yeah. Yvette d'Entremont 11:29 It took that for my relatives in Nova Scotia to be okay with me swearing. Oh, you're Samantha Mac 11:34 from Nova Scotia. Yvette d'Entremont 11:36 That's just a little bit of the accident day. Oh, it's so cute. I can't tell if that's Minnesota or if that's like Nova Scotia. It just has a little bit of the Abood are kind of the same. It's a little bit of the aboot. But they're also friends. They have like the word Acadian like they're almost genetically the same as the occasions slightly different accent but back to set that's not about genealogy Alice Vaughn 11:57 for hot second I have to ask So Sam You're in Canada. I was not aware there was a Canadian hotspot for porn, Samantha Mac 12:05 right? Well, a long, long time ago, on a day just like this, we were a Canadian hotspot for porn. And some people didn't do paperwork properly, and some things went sideways. And the industry out here got shut down. And we're going back decades now. So companies like browsers and Pornhub. And I believe I want clips are Canadian companies that started in Canada, but now they all run out of the states. And I'm finding that there's a lot of people up here in Canada who want to be important, who thinks exciting, but we all think it has to be in LA. And right now, it kind of does for the most part, and I want to change that. I want companies to come shoot here, we've shot with five or six different big name companies up here. And it's been a lot of fun, and they're like, hey, if you have a roster of talent, I'm going to come up, you're more we're gonna shoot with you more. So that's where Barbie came came from, was I was training people to get on this roster of talent. So We could shoot up here in Vancouver more often. And it was if you go to Mac models.ca you can see there's a link called as seen on and you can see some of the amazing talent we've worked with. We've worked so some some superstars and we're so so so lucky. But I was like this could be a regular thing, if we have what they need and what they need is a roster of capable talents. So how did we get that point? Oh, boot camp. Alice Vaughn 13:23 Love the segue. Nice, so much easier on my own. You mentioned it's like a 12 step program so it's already sounds way better than a first is admitting that you have a problem. Samantha Mac 13:34 Yes. Versus admitting that you have a boner. Alice Vaughn 13:37 Second is finding Jesus specifically Hey, Zeus, Yvette d'Entremont 13:41 essentially is admitting that you are powerless to your boner. Samantha Mac 13:44 That's some dominatrix stuff right there. seeking out Alice Vaughn 13:47 a higher powers. Yeah, your boner seat so that you were just someone's higher power. Your boner. Jesus. That's my business card. There you go. Voter Jesus. There we go. You know the road. just killed Jesus because they didn't want him competing with the wine industry. That's all I'm saying. Unknown Speaker 14:04 Oh, Alice Vaughn 14:07 no, too dark. Sorry Christians. Oh, Samantha Mac 14:09 he's not sorry. Yvette d'Entremont 14:10 I'm really not know she makes crayons that are offensive. So not sorry, Alice Vaughn 14:16 Sam we're gonna get along. So Unknown Speaker 14:19 I'm learning so much about you. Yvette d'Entremont 14:21 When we're all in the same part of the universe hanging out will occur. Alice Vaughn 14:25 So by the way, do you only train men talent or males and females, so I Samantha Mac 14:29 trained men and women and vice actually filmed a female session. It just hasn't come out yet. you've only seen the men's level two you haven't seen at all. We've just slightly lifted the veil. So excited. Yeah, I work with women a lot. And we also help them in like open their own websites and clips, sites and fan sites so that they can profit off their own butts instead of being owned and operated by somebody else Yvette d'Entremont 14:54 to their vagina is an LLC. I like that. Samantha Mac 14:57 But yeah, we do a whole class like our 13th class. Our final class is about opening your own sites running yourself as a business or what you need, what different colored backgrounds and font on your website will evoke different feelings from people and what your audience is more attracted to, and how to do search engine optimization like all that. Wow. So we get down to like the nitty gritty like how to do record keeping, or skip the Yvette d'Entremont 15:22 porn classes and comment and get the SEO stuff like, Can I just drop it you can come to Samantha Mac 15:26 anything you want, you can come every day. Yvette d'Entremont 15:29 Well, I try to come every day. But Could I just drop in for the SEO? Yes, Samantha Mac 15:34 weighing on by the Canada because of the vice documentary, we realized that there's a lot of people from a lot of different areas that are either really interested or maybe kind of interested. So we want to make it more inclusive. So that's why we broke it down to 13 different classes and people can sign up for just one all 13 It doesn't matter out of those classes or kind of handpicking who we want to work with more to get on our roster to do work. So if a couple wants to just come For one class and just laugh at each other while we're talking about dildos, that's okay. If they want to perform and go further, we can discuss that. But it's not. You don't take more bootcamp because you want to be a porn star. You take part in boot camp because maybe you just want to talk about stretching your asshole for a day, Yvette d'Entremont 16:15 which I'm just saying, I'm getting their movie. I'm picturing this ending up on the app masterclass. Yeah, actually, oh my god. I hope so. I want a TED talk as well. A picture this ending is going to be like, you know, here's Neil Gaiman on writing. here's here's Gordon Ramsay teaches cooking here. Samantha Mack on maintaining a boner with a guy next to you. I think people need to see all these things. Alice Vaughn 16:38 Yeah. Do we request master classes? Can our entire audience just email the master class people? Yeah, Samantha Mac 16:44 yes. That's how you do it. Yvette d'Entremont 16:46 I download master class. If I had this on there, I need to see this. This is amazing. Alice Vaughn 16:51 I love hearing though that you have specific classes for men specific classes for women and it kind of wraps up in a nice industry oriented way on how to promote us Yvette d'Entremont 17:00 Yeah cuz it's a harder industry to to maintain your finances and then I use a different industry now than it used to be installed Samantha Mac 17:06 on that a little bit. Well the industry has changed thanks to free sharing sites the way that we make money is different we're not just selling holes doing things anymore we're selling intimacy and interaction. Fans are now following one specific performer who they feel is attractive or arousing or has that thing that they like and they follow everything that person does you can go on Twitter and you can talk to brock obama tomorrow if you really really want to. So not that he's a porn performers just the first thing that came to my mind Alice Vaughn 17:33 but if you want it to be of no such Samantha Mac 17:36 powerful black man comes to mind. Alice Vaughn 17:39 I would so watch Brock porn Yvette d'Entremont 17:41 if there was a brock obama look alike who's doing porn? I would tune into that hard light bulb. Alice Vaughn 17:48 Oh, yeah. Michelle Obama's arms. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yvette d'Entremont 17:52 If there are doppelgangers, right, because I'm just saying I don't think a sex tape of them is coming out. They seem to have their shit together. But if their doppelgangers were to Do porn Samantha Mac 18:00 I would tune in. I have no words and only moans for that. Ah. Unknown Speaker 18:07 So good. Samantha Mac 18:08 But yeah, we're selling intimacy interaction because the internet chain social media changed. And so now, people will follow me because they liked me and they'll follow anything I do. They're not just following one company. You're not just finding your porn on browsers anymore. And now you're going all over the place. And what's fun about girls and while men used to be just girls who like, if a girl had a website, you would follow her, but now it's men. It's women. It's couples. It's transgender. It's everything. If you have a niche, it is on the internet. If you get off on sucking the farts of somebody's asshole, you can find that on the internet and you will find a whole group of Yvette d'Entremont 18:43 people who like it, there's someone making fart sucking specifically from a step sibling. Like there's every single category of porn in step family for this is 2019 it's all step family Samantha Mac 18:55 step family is one of the things I don't touch on. I did two step family videos and I was like You know what, I don't want to encourage this behavior and someone's realized fan mail that was pretty disturbing. And I was like, I will not do tabular incest videos of any kind anymore. It just does not sit well with me. You're the unsung hero. Yvette d'Entremont 19:13 You don't real MVP. Samantha Mac 19:15 Thank you. I also don't like doing cheating wife. Alice Vaughn 19:17 Cheating wife. Yes. stepbrother. stepsister pass. Samantha Mac 19:21 Yeah. Well, I also like my mom dad are still married, so I can't really relate to finding a stepmom attractive I don't have one. So if you want to be my stepmom and change my mind, you can call me at one 800 Alice Vaughn 19:32 Well, I mean in porn universe, who knows? Maybe I will be your stepmom. Unknown Speaker 19:37 You're younger than me. Yvette d'Entremont 19:39 Exactly. As far as anything can happen. The right extensions and costumes on and who knows? Alice Vaughn 19:47 We become Mills back after we're 29 right? Yvette d'Entremont 19:50 I thought was 45 I'm 36 I'm a gilf at this point in the porn universe. As I like to say I am past age preventative Botox. I I'm old. I've accepted it. All right, I'm all right with it. I'm just old. Alice Vaughn 20:05 Sam, other than the marketing seems like you have classes on anal. It seems like you have some classes pertaining to toys and erections. Any other snippets of some other classes you could share with us? Samantha Mac 20:17 Yes, I have the list in front of me. Now, I don't necessarily teach these classes some of these I bring in experts because I don't know everything. Shocking, I know. So we start off really simple with a class called do it yourself, which is about solo xX xX performances. So it's just you and a camera, what do you do? And so you'll see that in our advice, coverage of the girl session, or girl sitting from the camera, they're from a VR camera, they go Okay, go and the girls are like, Hi, my name is Samantha and I'm so happy you're here. And I don't know what to say and they just lose it. And it's very nerve racking being from a camera, I'm being told to just go perform. So we have a class on that how to move in from the camera and we do it For both men and women, and everything in between, we cater to all colors of the rainbow, whatever your kink or fetish is, we try to be as inclusive as possible. So our solar performance class is just you in front of camera by yourself, how do you keep their attention? And so that was really, really fun and we laugh a lot. It's super embarrassing, and it is a journey. But what I like about this is if you are on a boot camp, and you're willing to be on the website, we show your beginning your middle and your end so we show the progression and we try to lift you up as somebody who has learned and become good instead of someone who's like Oh, the cavemen 35 seconds they're useless by it's like a boner montage. Yvette d'Entremont 21:38 I'm picturing the rocky theme song in the background, like climbing up the steps with like a proud Boehner and then like spring like that could be the commercial for it. There's like to someone like you know, up the stairs and at the end, just you know, there I need my creative team. Oh my goodness. This is Alice and I we do silly things for fun and for profit. So if you ever new thing give us a call. Alice Vaughn 22:01 All I'm hearing is you need to include more. I have the tiger montages. So, Yvette d'Entremont 22:05 Tiger montage with Dick. That's there has to be a rocky parody out there somewhere. Alice Vaughn 22:13 Is there a rocky parody? I'm sure there is. And we'll review it eventually. Okay, sorry. Anyways, classic. Let's Samantha Mac 22:19 say we have classes on stills. One of the big things that you do on a porn set is, you know, you show up, you go through your script, you go through your staging, and they'll tell you, the director was like, I want you and missionary then flip to doggy, then you're gonna do this line, I want you to say this, I want you to do that. And so we run through it. And then once you know which positions you're going to be and you map it out on whichever furniture you're using, we then take stills so the pictures that you see on the box cover are not taken during the action. They are set up photos and how to do that. And it gets even more difficult. So you put three people in a room of like, Okay, give me a sec still. You have to learn how to turn your body out how to face the camera but still look like you're your partner how to stack your finger. And push against the base of the clock so the deck looks as long as possible. So you showing them a shaft as possible. Just grab it, like cover it because he looks like he's got a tiny little Wiener doesn't make anyone want to buy the video. So we teach you like all these little techniques or Unknown Speaker 23:14 little things that I've never thought about Samantha Mac 23:17 Yeah, at how to like, you get partnered with somebody that you might not know or maybe that you like, aren't really good friends with and you have to make them look good enough to make you look good. You know how to put your arms around a woman's waist without giving her a muffin top. So we do a whole class with professional photographers. Oh, I want that class. It's a good class for like anybody who wants to be like next level Instagram like, here's how to pose with people next level sex tape. Yvette d'Entremont 23:41 Yes, I want my sex tape to get rid of my backfat Samantha Mac 23:46 and like these positions that we teach you like if a girl lies on her back and it hits her natural and they fall into her armpits, how to like scooper and hold her in a way that her body is most elegantly framed. During the sax. Yes, we care about you looking good on camera. We don't care about Feels good. We don't care if you have an orgasm unless you're the guy. We only care that you look good. And we make a beautiful product. Yvette d'Entremont 24:06 You're a legend. This is this is fascinating. I feel like if we were like so Middle East piece and just handed it to you, you'd be like, Well, someone said I was good at it, so I should do it. Samantha Mac 24:19 Everything. I mean, that's my next challenge. I mean, after for boot camp has been conquered. I'll have to be honest, making peace in the Middle East. I'm sure I can you Yvette d'Entremont 24:28 know, Syria is a kind of a clusterfuck. But we can sort it out between like six different arguing camps. We can do this. Alice Vaughn 24:35 I mean, Trump thought Kushner could do it. Samantha Mac better Yvette d'Entremont 24:40 way better. Make your tits look good during missionary she can sort out Syria tasks. I'm just saying if you have any women have tried. Samantha Mac has mastered it. I think Syria is next. I'm going Samantha Mac 24:55 to end up with like a weird phone call tomorrow from Yvette d'Entremont 24:58 Fox hate mail. info to girls when Mike duck Samantha Mac 25:02 house Mathematica single handedly solving Yvette d'Entremont 25:07 they're gonna be like so do your support Trump's recent comments. Oh god, Samantha Mac 25:11 this is gonna be really really bad or really, really well for me. Yvette d'Entremont 25:14 We have gotten far less hate mail on ridiculous things we've said that have touched on politics that I would have expected I think because our audience understands that their jokes how Samantha Mac redrew the Israeli Palestinian border. What it's actually supposed to look like. This is a giant. You're welcome. Next, they have Samantha Mack is actually added by something like that'll be like the next accusation just because like the word Palestine was said that'll be the accusation. Oh my goodness. Don't worry. I can handle anything. It's fine. Hashtag Samantha Matt canceled. We were canceled for having this podcasts. Everything is canceled to I'm canceled. Cancel us now. Samantha Mac 25:54 Don't do it. Yvette d'Entremont 25:55 Alice is already determined she's gonna be cancelled for offensive crayons. I've decided. I'm going to cancelled for all the stuff I ever wrote about agriculture. Alice Vaughn 26:03 Well, so within a span of a week I went viral and was banned off of Facebook. So why did you go viral? I went viral because of this little contraption. I am holding a fidget spinner bud plug. Yvette d'Entremont 26:17 I have a theory that that could help someone keep their erection for longer because it would distract them but they'd still be in a vagina. Alice Vaughn 26:24 I have a theory that this is a great toy during orgies. And if you don't have anything to do play with the fidget spinner, but Yvette d'Entremont 26:32 if you have an uneven number of men who have holes available, just you know, plug that in there for a little while. How about just Samantha Mac 26:38 Okay, so wait, why did that make you go viral? I don't Alice Vaughn 26:41 think many people have seen a fidget spinner bud plug and I think that's what surprised me more. This little guy and I'll again link it in the show notes only cost me 25 bucks. I decided to post it on both Facebook and Instagram on our Facebook. It got I think 18,000 shares and Yvette d'Entremont 26:59 yeah, that's it. Sokka some shares but I must have not clicked for the page for like a day. Alice Vaughn 27:04 And then on my Twitter I think I got like 17,000 shares, which I would say is a decent number nowadays. Yvette d'Entremont 27:11 Yeah, that's not bad for a shiny butt plug. Alice Vaughn 27:15 But I'm more furious about why Facebook decided to ban me for a week. I had nothing to do with about blog. Nothing, nothing to do. Yvette d'Entremont 27:22 Okay, I just posted a link right? Alice Vaughn 27:25 So what I did was so vise put out an article about a photographer who photographs couples who are simulating blow jobs for their wedding photos Yvette d'Entremont 27:35 wedding photo blowjobs Was it a hoax Alice Vaughn 27:38 or was it well all the couples say that they're not actual blowjobs but you could see like the pants are off on the guy. Yeah, it's just so Yvette d'Entremont 27:46 it's you know, in position of doing apologia Haha, very funny, but exactly posted Alice Vaughn 27:52 the link, didn't you? That's all I did. All I did was just post the link on our Facebook page on the To on podcast page, and within a day I'm gone I'm canceled on Facebook Yvette d'Entremont 28:05 you're banned for posting an article that like Alice Vaughn 28:08 about fake blowjobs Yvette d'Entremont 28:10 vise face nothing for that everyone else who posted this face nothing What the hell are you just In Facebook Jail Are you banned Facebook Jail Alice Vaughn 28:19 Facebook Jail for seven days but Facebook Jail is the worst because if you haven't been in it before you can even message your friends Samantha Mac 28:26 that you can see your messages though. Alice Vaughn 28:28 Yeah, it's the worst torture so and if you don't have someone's number, you can contact them for however long whether it's 24 hours a week or 30 days and I've had a 30 day ban too. Yvette d'Entremont 28:37 We are far too dependent on Facebook Like I saw a video a few days ago saying there's an argument for shutting down the entire internet I'm like no, no, no. Just shut down Facebook for like a week and see how people adapt to life about Facebook and I I say this thinking that tomorrow my Facebook overlords will shut down sigh babe and be like, Oh, you likes those 300,000 followers, didn't you? By, I think that the company has a little too much power now just because we got dependent on it. We liked the service they had. But now, what would happen if it just went away? I think would be all right. Eventually, Samantha Mac 29:13 I'm kind of on this boat. I think if Facebook went away, we would actually connect with each other again, we would go to the scammers and contact each other. I went In Facebook Jail, right before a Mexico trip and all of my information was in those messages. So I didn't know who to like meet on the other side in Mexico, I was at the airport and I got shut down. So I had to open a second account and try to recontact all these people again. So now I bounced between two accounts so I can afford to be in jail on what Yvette d'Entremont 29:41 yeah, it's just annoying, you know, Samantha Mac 29:43 and I have my mom is like a moderator on all of my pages. In case I get shut down. My mom can still go in the back end and posts for me. Yvette d'Entremont 29:51 Yeah, it's having a handful of people who you know, no matter what, someone won't be banned at any given time. And none of these people will ever go nuclear on me. Some important thing, Samantha Mac 30:01 we run an event here in Vancouver called SimCity. It's a fetish club. And we do tons of crazy events. I mean, like whatever you think is happening, like time's up by 10 Unknown Speaker 30:10 Patreon content. There's 36 Samantha Mac 30:13 different moderators on that account just because of the likelihood of us getting shut down for a poster we made or for having Oh, yeah, the wrong word in our poster image or linking directly if you're moving a link, but you just have the text up, you're less likely to get put in Facebook Jail. Wow, it's when the direct link bubble pops up and click that it could click to anything that could get you in trouble. Pro tip. Yvette d'Entremont 30:36 I still don't know how I've never landed In Facebook Jail. Like I know saying this means tomorrow I'll enter Facebook Jail, just the energies out there. It's gonna happen but like, I feel like I've just kept one foot on the don't put me in jail side of the line. I've just managed to skate by it, but it feels like I should have by now. Samantha Mac 30:53 Well, you're very lucky. I'm very experienced In Facebook Jail unfortunately. at Instagram jail Thema Yvette d'Entremont 30:59 People I've said should fuck off and that we should have a guillotine for the rich at this point somebody should have thrown me in the face no Samantha Mac 31:06 violence, okay? You can yell at somebody violence is okay, but if you have boobs, yeah, okay shut down in a heartbeat I was completely removed for wearing a dress on a red carpet so that they thought was inappropriate. Unknown Speaker 31:17 Stop Samantha Mac 31:18 Yeah, no sexual content and it was me in a custom made gown on a red carpet. Alice Vaughn 31:23 Okay, I need to see this gown first off because you probably looked hot in it. Yeah. Samantha Mac 31:27 Now it was custom made. It wasn't necessary. Now. We Yvette d'Entremont 31:31 should have that picture for like the featured image for the show. Samantha Mac 31:34 I bet you I can find this. I just I can't Yvette d'Entremont 31:36 believe that. I mean, I can because fuck everything. But I was exaggerating a little bit talking about the guillotine. Just a little Samantha Mac 31:43 My husband has the same picture posted because it's a red carpet image. And his is still up but my god has banned Alice Vaughn 31:49 what Yeah, you're too voluptuous for Facebook to handle? Yes. Oh, you look absurdly good. Unknown Speaker 31:57 Oh wow. Alice Vaughn 31:58 I've seen that image but For I love it. It's on images as well. I'm linking to this in the show notes. That custom dress is perfect. Yvette d'Entremont 32:08 So I'm just saying I've seen Beyonce in a thing that covers a similar amount. I'm curious why that was all right. And yet, and yet so that covers more than a bikini but because it was a dress it was too sexual. Unknown Speaker 32:22 Yeah, fun times with boobs. Alice Vaughn 32:26 bikini versus lingerie. I mean, both lead to sex ones, just coarser, but it Samantha Mac 32:32 also is like if you have more followers, they're more likely to be strict on you. If you ask followers, they're less Yvette d'Entremont 32:38 likely more followers means there's gonna be like the sensitivity level you're you have a bigger net eventually. It also means you're going to be more people that are gonna be like, I just don't like this click report. Yeah, it depends on the following. When my page started, I realized like early on, like I forget where the following was, but like I went from like 30,000 to about 100,000 overnight. From an article going viral, and the whole tone of the page changed, like people, I had to get used to people being like, I don't like this unfollow, and like, luckily, it wasn't a lot of reporting, but the bigger the audience is, the more people are gonna be like, I fucking hate your report for nothing. Mm hmm. Why with boobs though? Why would people be anti boobs? And if you guys can see this guy, so this is a skeleton sitting in a chair holding a dildo with a bottle of lube next to him. Samantha Mac 33:28 And that was to advertise like our Halloween film sets and mine got removed immediately. But that's on my husband's Instagram. It's I experiment happy with it. They think it's funny. What the hell is a dude posting a dick is okay, but a girl No, no, Alice Vaughn 33:43 a skeleton with a dildo and lube. Oh my god, how dare it. Yvette d'Entremont 33:48 I hate everything. Instagram What the fuck is my third account now? And they're not the first person we've had on that's told us this. We've had a few people tell us their Instagram accounts are there friend's Instagram accounts have been shut down. Samantha Mac 34:02 Yes. So luckily there's an organization in LA of adult performers. They actually spoke to the heads of Instagram and was like, hey, people are being banned for the wrong reasons. And a lot of BB w women are getting banned because the amount of skin percentage that they're showing, even though they could be completely covered in the important areas wearing a sports bra and like yoga pants, the amount of skin showing is more than a thin girl. Therefore she gets brought down for being showing too much skin Yvette d'Entremont 34:29 that's not okay and it Samantha Mac 34:32 comes down to not sexual being sexual or sexually explicit. It comes down to just body shaming. She has more square inches of skin than the other girl therefore it's not okay. Yvette d'Entremont 34:42 And that sucks. What the hell for my highest weight I've lost about 95 pounds and I look isolations you know what I it's weird accepting congratulations on just you know, being smaller. It's like I'm healthier I guess but you know, same human being just different eating habits but like I look at it and go, people treat you differently. It's weird that some clothes are acceptable now that weren't then and I don't think that's okay. I don't think it's okay to treat people like, we treat fat women terribly in the society and like I grew up fat and people treat me differently now like I'm a better nicer human being who's more worthy of love. And that's not cool. Oh, it's it's Samantha Mac 35:23 totally true that what you experience is 100% real Yvette d'Entremont 35:26 people treat conventionally attractive, skinny women differently. And I'd since I moved to San Francisco for two years, moved back to LA and since I've gotten back, I've been thinner. I've been treated differently. It's very strange. But yeah, that's just seeing it manifested in how people are treating your body. On Instagram. It's like, it's just it's disgusting. Alice Vaughn 35:47 Well, here's a question how much of it is part of the algorithm and how much of it is a person reviewing it because there are people who are content moderators who are reviewing the content and censoring this which is a problem problem, but I'm sure there could probably be algorithms who are figuring this out. But as I say that I'm glad it still doesn't make any sense compared to if like a skinny bitches wearing a fucking bikini. It doesn't make any sense. Yvette d'Entremont 36:13 There shouldn't be a problem for wearing a bikini at any size. Alice Vaughn 36:16 By the way, if you're a skinny bitch, I hate you. It's just because I can't be a size two. I enjoy pizza a lot. Samantha Mac 36:21 One thing I did is in my in my 10 years of being naked on the internet, I have been both 140 pounds and 240 pounds. And I have made I wouldn't say the equivalent amount of money but the size doesn't matter. Your fan base just changes interesting people like all sorts of sizes. I never lost fans because I was heavier or lost fans because I was thinner. The audience just changed. And both have been exceptionally profitable. Yeah, people like a little bit of everything. It's just who you're advertising to, which is why is it is always a place for everybody. Exactly. So there's that guy out there who just wants to suck your farts. He doesn't care how big grass is. But it's is your your level of comfort with your body is what's going to be the positive reaction other people, if you're upset about being heavy, then they're going to be like, yeah, you're heavy. That's bad. But if you're like, Yeah, I got a big bottom you like this? And they're like, yeah, like that. You really start the conversation. So people are treating you differently. Maybe because you're treating yourself differently. Alice Vaughn 37:17 This is a very good point. Unfortunately, as women, we're kind of shamed at a young age when it comes to our body. And I feel like a lot of men don't necessarily experience it the same way. I mean, yes, don't get me wrong. There are advertisements were constantly you'll see like an attractive or muscular guy, but not never. I feel like growing up to the same extent, as you've always seen the same type of woman on all the different types of advertisements and if you just have a little extra men in most advertisements aren't really told to lose weight. However, for women, it's a problem. Samantha Mac 37:53 You know, what's funny about that is that's where the internet changed. It comes to porn, because of clip sites and fan sites and cash sights. We have now opened up the idea of the perfect woman from being the thin size to big fake boobs. blond hair. Blue Eyes doesn't have a thought in her brain. What wants to suck your dick? Oh, yeah, that was what was higher. You're welcome. That's why now it can be a tattooed girl a girl with a big fat. Yvette d'Entremont 38:20 have at least one thought in your brain, Alice. Unknown Speaker 38:22 Oh, it's true. I thought it was Alice Vaughn 38:26 Yeah, I'm sure as I'm going down on the guy. He's like, I love you for your brain. Alright, sorry, Sam. Yvette d'Entremont 38:32 So going back loves it for how fast it's ranting against his cock. That's what he loves about it at that moment. Samantha Mac 38:38 He should just stop halfway and ask him. Yvette d'Entremont 38:40 Do you love me for my brain honey? Yeah, sure, just get back to slogging that thing against your tonsil holes. Okay, please. I just want it good and sloppy. Just get in there. Don't forget the balls. I Alice Vaughn 38:51 don't care about your brain right now as long as your brain is functioning in a way that tells it how to blow a thing. So Sam, do you think that the body positivity moves Could have even just stemmed from more clips sites coming onto the scene and because we all know that porn when it comes to change whether it comes to a lot of technological advances I mean porn kind of does it first you know whether it's VHS DVD is when it comes to doing webcams. Hell cryptocurrency, VR, you know porn always at the front of everything. Do you think the body positivity movement kind of started with porn? Samantha Mac 39:28 Oh, you know what, I would not be surprised in the least I think that that's a very real scenario. We saw a huge influx in tattooed girls when suicide girls became a thing Wow. When all of a sudden that was something that was lusted after and was made for your spank made material burning Angel made punk porn, a thing tattooed girls, pink hairs shaved head we just had Joanna Angel on and she was wonderful. Joanna angel is one of the first big name people I've ever worked with. She's Super fun. But I think she had a lot to do with changing the porn cultures mind of what sexy is. And I think that that opened the door for a lot. A lot more variety of women you know you if you can be a pumpkin you can be sexy, you can be a nerd and you can be sexy. You can be a cupcake chef and be sexy like this not just one idea anymore. And people like Joanna Angel were the forefront of that. Yvette d'Entremont 40:24 I require my cupcake chefs to be sexy, Samantha Mac 40:27 as you should. Yvette d'Entremont 40:29 Just just saying, but I think if you're making me a cupcake, you're automatically sexy. So Alice Vaughn 40:33 So speaking of cupcakes, I have a business idea. And if you're a listener of this podcast, you're not allowed. You're contractually obligated to never steal this business idea because you're listening to this podcast and I'm telling you, so Yvette d'Entremont 40:48 it's already trademarked it there's a website like she's partnered with Monsanto auto or something. Who knows? Alice Vaughn 40:53 Okay, so the idea is, it's a bakery and it's a strip club. It's called Shake and Bake. Yvette d'Entremont 41:01 Oh, no. Oh yes, we're doing this. And and wait, it's a dispensary to shake and bake. Oh, come on, come on. Now this is a good idea. Alice Vaughn 41:14 Look, all I'm saying is, if you're already going to call a girl cupcake, why not bring you a cupcake? Samantha Mac 41:19 We actually fired a girl to a strip club for smashing a cupcake during a strip show. Because it was a chocolate cupcake and it looked like poop smeared down her tits. And it left any oil based product is not your friend at the strip club. And I mean like a slick Yvette d'Entremont 41:36 Yeah, so you're saying vanilla with like marang frosting would have been acceptable. It's just Samantha Mac 41:41 not poo colors and preferably not oil based products. We want you to swing around the pole. We don't use something off of it. Yvette d'Entremont 41:50 So if you're listening and you dance, please no chocolate cupcakes, Samantha Mac 41:54 at least not myclub that'll get you in trouble. Yvette d'Entremont 41:57 Stick to the normal foods for that are used for dancing like sardines, obviously. Alice Vaughn 42:03 Pineapple on pizza. Yes. No. Unknown Speaker 42:06 Yes. doesn't belong Yvette d'Entremont 42:08 on pizza. Yes, yes. Thank you. I knew I liked you. Samantha Mac 42:13 Don't you take my pineapple away. Yvette d'Entremont 42:15 People who don't like pineapple on pizza are truly why the terrorists are gonna win. Samantha Mac 42:19 I believe I had sex in a burning Angel film because there was pineapple on a pizza. Yvette d'Entremont 42:25 There has to be a story of this and I needed Samantha Mac 42:27 one of the first burning Angel videos I did for joining Angel was I was a pizza delivery girl. And using the pizza delivery box like the thermal case, from my father in law from when he was a delivery boy so you know, there was some heirlooms in that video. But no, I brought I brought an American Oh in gray leaves his name. I brought him a Canadian pizza and had pineapple on it. And it had maybe in badian bacon and he was like, This isn't bacon and we argued about it. And I was like There's pineapple amount make your taste good. He's like, well why would you want that? And I was like, Oh well, welcome to Canada and I sucked his dick. Unknown Speaker 43:07 Because porn logic Yvette d'Entremont 43:08 that's how Canadian pizza delivery people treat you when you come to Canada we give you a Canadian pizza and suck your dick. I'm just saying that never happened to Nova Scotia and I feel robbed but given that it was Politico and I'm related to everyone there maybe that's why that's a policy in Politico that they don't do it. Samantha Mac 43:26 Perhaps I didn't Vancouver, so maybe you need to come to Vancouver. And then have me deliver your pizza. I want that delivery service. You actually need to watch the pizza delivery burning Angel porno video that I did because I tried to do a nova scotia accent the whole time. Oh my god, I'm so excited. It comes out a little in Minnesota. But wait, Alice Vaughn 43:46 what is a nova scotia accent Nova Scotia Yvette d'Entremont 43:48 but your a and a booton? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Don't you know Samantha Mac 43:52 it's a lot of don't Shinola stone shadow. I just at that point. I loved being a character in all my films like I love I love the silly Have it and that's one of the reasons I like so much is because they did really silly parodies Yvette d'Entremont 44:04 these are the ports we like to review are the ones that get there's an actual plot and we dig when people stay in character during the fucking Samantha Mac 44:12 show Anna got mad at me not to get mad at me because halfway through she's like stop it cuz he was like fucking me and I was like, oh gosh darn sorry. Alice Vaughn 44:21 She's like stomping his mouth. I'm like, okay. It's not Canadian porn unless you're saying sorry, constantly. Sorry, sorry. Samantha Mac 44:32 Oh, gosh, I'm so sorry. Don't you know Unknown Speaker 44:33 sorry. Or maple syrup? Alice Vaughn 44:37 Give me the maple syrup, baby. Oh, yeah. Samantha Mac 44:45 Yeah, I give you permission to criticize my Nova Scotia accent in that entire porno. Sorry, Yvette d'Entremont 44:50 it's probably better than then whatever I can do. We have this thing for a while the horrid challenge and to listeners who have heard this every time just click 30 seconds ahead. So you Don't have to hear it again. So from watching Tommy pistol doing the bar at parody horror at and he stayed in character the whole time. I just want someone to like in that moment when they are their partners about to come to call out very nice and see if they can hold their erection so that was why we loved the vice documentary right here so much I'm like, Oh my god, this is like the horror at challenge over and over again, to see if people can keep erection during you know, extreme conditions. Alice Vaughn 45:27 So now I remember there was something you mentioned in the documentary said there was a difference between VR and POV recording. Samantha Mac 45:34 Yeah, what's the difference? So virtual reality is a specific type of camera that we use to shoot VR, whether we're shooting 180 or 360. It's stationary camera, whereas POV the camera can sometimes move with you. If you're doing like a vor fetish. For example, you might talk directly to the cameras if it's the tiny little man trying to escape you. And then you can pick up the camera and show it the inside of your mouth and threaten that you're gonna swallow him or whatever for It's a fun fetish. Alice Vaughn 46:01 Would you like to describe it for our audience? Yeah, Yvette d'Entremont 46:03 give them a quick rundown. bore is Samantha Mac 46:06 a fetish we often encourage beginners to use because it's very, I wouldn't say non sexual, but it's like a foot fetish. It's less sexual than others. So with more it's about eating and swallowing. And a lot of times it mixes with giant tests where the viewer is shrunken down to a small size. And you are the giant s, and you put them in a sandwich and you eat them, or the video I'm doing right now is a fellow who's trying to hide behind a grape. And I realized I dropped the grape on the ground and I go to pick it up and about to eat it. And it the sexual tension for the viewer comes from that point where he sees my mouth open my teeth, my uvlo hanging down the spit in my throat, and he knows that that's his final moment. And that's where they get on board. Sometimes they want you to slowly eat them from their toes to their head and describe what their body is feeling. Sometimes they do it as a way of nourishing the gut. As body they're making the ultimate sacrifice for the goddess that they appreciate and love so much. But yeah vor is about eating and chewing up a lot of your throat and swallowing and every time you eat on camera you're supposed to do with your lips open, so they can watch your teeth Nasher out. It's it's not sexual for everyone, but for those who like it, they pay well for it. Yvette d'Entremont 47:21 So it's a fairly unsexual eyes thing that people are really into I Samantha Mac 47:26 who it's more of like a psychological fetish than it is Yvette d'Entremont 47:30 physical or emotional. I'm fascinated and I don't want to kink shame I just I'm this is something that like, I think it's a thing where if you're not into it, you just do not get it at all. And you know what, as I was taught very early on in my kink life, your kink is okay. Don't judge other people's kinks, because other people would look at yours and go Hmm, Samantha Mac 47:50 so a lot of people who are starting out with their own fan sites, we'll get custom video requests from people who have these very usual fetishes, not that they're unusual a bad way but that they're the less popular and when you're new on the internet people come to you Oh, wiggle your toes for me. Okay now wiggle your toes but pour lotion on them. Okay now whether your toes and smash a banana into the ball of your foot like they will send you these little customs that you think are nothing so you'll do them for a low amount of money. Because you don't understand their that's their sexual for them. It seems non sexual to you because oh, it's just my feet, it doesn't matter or Oh, I'm just pretending to eat a crepe. It doesn't matter. But what we don't realize what we've learned through this evolutionary process is that these kinks are very important to people who have these fetishes. And so if you become a master at if you can understand the fetish and film it in a way that's very enticing, you can become the best for fetishist or giant has fetishes or femme Dom or whatever it is that you're into, or perhaps that you're good at portraying on camera. I do a lot of fetishes that I'm not personally into, but I will perform them exquisitely on camera because I like being an actress. Alice Vaughn 49:00 I feel like people definitely undervalue porn stars as actual actors. And that's the thing you guys act so often and frequently, especially as you just described, you do fetishes, and you do them in such a way where for the viewer, if they're watching, and they're like, that's exactly my kink, but you might not either be into it or you just know how to perform it really well. You might be the best vor or giantess fetishist out there. Samantha Mac 49:27 Yes. And that's the goal is to be the best at whatever you want to do. We do one of our bootcamp classes is about specifically that, wow, we show a side by side image of a sexy nurse and a porno and then a nurse actually in the ER, and we're like there is a difference between reality and fantasy. And there is a difference between showing a kink and then showing a kink for the viewer. Yvette d'Entremont 49:49 Do you show a picture of Nina Hartley when she was actually working as a nurse versus Nina Hartley in a nurse costume because I think that would be perfect. I did not know Nina Hartley was a nurse. She was I don't know Still an RN, she might like we had her on the show and we talked about that. But yeah, indeed, kind of what got her into porn, she said was she was working as an RN and she connected, giving birth to sexuality and it's a whole long rant. She was on the show and it was wonderful. But yeah, she started off her career as a nurse. She's I mean, we knew she was brilliant, but Episode 30 we had her on really early and she put up with 40 minutes of our audio issues trying to get her connected. And she was so lovely. And so what she talked about was so brilliant. She Samantha Mac 50:28 is like the nicest person she's fantastic. So by the Alice Vaughn 50:31 way, I figured out what nurse porn is yes, so all of you nurses out there can absolutely attest to this and you can you know, correct me if I'm wrong info two girls, so I might calm you know, they email. Okay, you guys, you're into veins. Okay, finding a fucking vein for to put a needle into so muscular arms with veins in them. That's nurse porn. phlebotomy tell me I'm wrong. Yvette d'Entremont 50:56 I know someone who used to do I need to figure out a way to praise a set enemas she was into enemas and wearing a nurse costume. That was one that I remember early on in my kink education. And I was like, Ooh, that one's a fetish too far. But I'm fascinated and I want to know more. Samantha Mac 51:11 I love enemas. Yvette d'Entremont 51:12 I find the baby, how should we phrase this useful before another activity? Yes, that's kind of how Samantha Mac 51:19 you get into it. It starts off as necessity and then it becomes awesome. Yvette d'Entremont 51:24 One day, we're gonna make a complete washer junk kit, and it's gonna have an enema bulb in there, and people are gonna be like, What? Oh, Samantha Mac 51:30 yes, that's another course we that's in the angel class that we do. We have this lovely gay fellow come in, and he talks all about how to do an enema, the different types that you can get. And when you've gone too far, and you've used too much liquid and how long it could delay your process of getting ready. I need to know how do you Yvette d'Entremont 51:47 know when you've gone too far? Samantha Mac 51:48 Well, there's a suggested amount listed in the instructions. And when you go beyond that, there's a bend in your innards. And once you go over that bend, gravity doesn't help you anymore. Go ahead You filled yourself up with so much liquids and now you're you're draining out beyond the level that's necessary and it could take a much longer time to get you cleaned out because you've gone into deep cleaning mode and it wasn't necessary. Unknown Speaker 52:13 So one bulb at a time, one Samantha Mac 52:14 bulb at a time, that's what I like to do. Yvette d'Entremont 52:18 Didn't know if there was a max number of bulbs. successively, I think it's the word I'm using. There Samantha Mac 52:23 was also a difference between like, you could fill up like we have the bottles and you could fill up with one bottle, flush it out, fill up a bottle, again, make sure it's clean until it comes out clear. Or you could put a bottle in hold it but a second bottle in that's when you get into a little bit dangerous territory. But it's also good for deep cleaning. So you mean each each their own happy assholes to everyone? Yes, we want to clean working surface. And that's something that we're touching on. We're doing a point of bootcamp orientation this Friday and next Saturday, where anyone who's curious is welcome to come down and have a q&a with us. We've got videos, we've got some funny entertainers coming in to talk about all these things, answering questions. One of the things we talked about is how to be prepared for set. Do you need to clean out your asshole before you come to every single set? Not necessarily. Like what's important to do and like the amount of man I've had to send back and women be like, Oh, you need to go wash your bits before you pull those out. washers drunk. There's people who don't know why we have baby wipes on set. They think it's hilarious. Somebody in the YouTube comments on the vice documentary was like, Oh, this guy's using a penis pump next to a bunch of baby wipes. That's gross. He must be a dad and I was like, No, we use baby wipes to wipe our folds and our ins and our outs because our genitals Yeah, I worry about the people having sex who don't know how to use a wipe on their bits. Why do people not Yvette d'Entremont 53:40 know to just wash your junk? This is vital and necessary before you mash bits with someone else just out of courtesy but Samantha Mac 53:48 there's a lot of shelters out there even into their 20s and 30s. I've come across a lot of dicks now doing Cornell boot camp, and in a lot of vaginas, but the most memorable and I've met three men Whose foreskin will not retract at all. And when it does, you just see the very, very tip of their dick. And if you touch it, they go into convulsions because the head of their caucus so sensitive, and why two of them were raised very religious and were told never to masturbate. So as a 25 and 30 year old man, they could not pull down their foreskin, even when flaccid and they were constantly getting infections and they just thought that's just how it works because they never had that open conversation with an adult or a parent supporter. And so it's me going well, dude, your dick needs some work is what got them going to a doctor and having the balls to have that conversation is incredible. Okay, so if you're religiously oppressed, as you're dank please start please. She's a dick exorcise Yvette d'Entremont 54:43 addicts or cyst. I have a lot of business cards. We're racking them up for you depending on who you're talking to different business card. Samantha Mac 54:50 Someone online made me some that said I'm the dildo wielder because there's a part in the documentary where I'm shaking a double ended dildo, which is a joke about dick Celcius. video we did a long time ago his stepdad comes in, he picks up the Double of the dildo. He goes, What is this and it's wiggling back and forth. It's the funniest thing I've ever shot. However, like I said before that stepdad we don't do anymore because it had other fans that I don't want to judge, but that one moment where he's What is this and the dildos shaking back and forth. It's the funniest thing I've ever done. If you've never shaken a double ended dildo, do yourself a favor, go to the next door, I will get a double and make it around like a mad fury and you will feel so much better like that should be an every therapists office, you can't not laugh. It's just the funniest thing. Yvette d'Entremont 55:35 It's funnier than a rubber chicken. I'm sorry, you cannot Samantha Mac 55:38 stay angry, Yvette d'Entremont 55:39 especially if it's a pink one with glitter on the inside of it. That's a funny object. It's an intrinsically humorous article of junk. Samantha Mac 55:49 We've had one in our studio for three years now. It was bought for one of Anneliese film sets long time ago, and it's just lingered. It's always around somewhere. We try to get rid of it. We can't just keep showing up. But if you're angry We tell people just shake the deck because you cannot stay angry. Well, this double ended those flapping around. It's so yeah, forget stress balls, get a double ended dildo you'll be a happier person, you can thank me later. Alice Vaughn 56:13 In counseling sessions you have to hold the double ended dildo to speak. Yvette d'Entremont 56:17 That's the time I'm going to start buying those for friends that are stressed out just going buying cheap double ended dildo and be like, Here you go, just your you don't, this isn't gonna solve anything. It's not gonna make your problems go away but you'll laugh of it, you'll be Samantha Mac 56:31 a lot happier with your problems. Yvette d'Entremont 56:34 And if you cleared it off and has another years, Unknown Speaker 56:37 even two Samantha Mac 56:40 things those fellows have seen no buddy, no one can feel it seen our double ended dildo in our studio, you know is the LG dildo because it has this weird pink stain down the side which came from a feather boa I swear it was packaged with a feather boa the color from the feather bow leaked onto the eldo but every time we're playing with it was like why is there pink stuff on it? I'm like, it's never whatever you think it is. I swear to God is the dye from a feather bowl. Yvette d'Entremont 57:09 We kill the Horcrux of one of the previous porn stars that stain Samantha Mac 57:14 spray theory that's gonna be in like the board game one day like the q&a about Samantha Mac when I'm finally famous enough have a board game it'll be like, why is Samantha's double ended dildo dyed Unknown Speaker 57:22 pink because it was in Jenna Jamison. Oh, hey, Samantha Mac 57:27 Jenna Jameson's actually, one of the reasons I do porn now. Really? Alice Vaughn 57:31 Yes. how that happened. What? What is your origin story Samantha Mac 57:35 A long time ago. So I was 18 and I was given Jamison's how to make love like a porn star book, oh, by the uncle of a kid that I babysat for. Wow. There's a whole nother story. So I was given this book and I started reading it because I was 18. And who doesn't like things about porn when you're 18 and she talks about how in the book she talked about falling down drunk and losing money because she was so high High and all of those things and I had chosen at a young age at age 14, I'd learned about being straight edge ones and I decided that I want to be straight edge. So I got this strange tattoo and I never drank or two drugs or smoked my entire life and I not true. I did try cigarettes to try and be cool and it clearly did not work. So I apologize for drinking. Alice Vaughn 58:22 This entire you Samantha Mac 58:23 can drink. I don't. Okay, I don't care if you drink. But yeah, so I chose to like have this very straight, clean life and because of Gemma Jameson's book, I was just like, wow, if she could do all of that, because she just had the drive to do it. Like she pulled her own braces off to get the job at the strip club. And she decided to like push yourself and make yourself famous, cool. The only place she failed was that she got drunk and high and fucked it all up. And I was like, Well, I don't get drunk or high so I could do all this and not fuck it up. Interesting. So that book was like my motivating factor to like, do whatever I want become whoever I want and Be as bold as I want, knowing that as long as I didn't drink or do drugs that I could probably hold it together enough to be successful at it. And I still have her book and like read it to this day because it's a good book. It's hilarious. And it's full of great stories. But I am very much blaming her book for making me the confident, business minded girl that started off as a stripper not knowing what she was doing, and literally faked it till I made it. And now 10 years later, I'm teaching people how to play Alice Vaughn 59:26 with their dicks. That's amazing. I love it out of curiosity, do you do webinars, webinars? I don't but that Samantha Mac 59:32 is on my to do list. That's one of the things we're talking about right now. I hired I finally hired an assistant to help me coordinate everything and one of the things she's pushing me towards is webinars and ebooks, so that people don't have to necessarily come to my class to hear about it because people do like hearing about playing with dicks and stretching vaginas. They like these things. They're interesting. You don't necessarily want to become a porn star. You don't necessarily want to open a clip store, but you might want to shake a double ended dildo, so Word. These are things that are on our horizon that hopefully we will do. And then of course, followed by a TED talk and a masterclass obviously, obviously and then your own line of dildos. Specifically double ended ones with a pink stripe on them with for therapeutic reasons only Alice Vaughn 1:00:17 at every therapists office in Nova Scotia. Samantha Mac 1:00:21 Look at me Mom, I made it. Yvette d'Entremont 1:00:23 I have an aunt who is going to be blushing her way through therapy. Yes, sorry, Tom Chanel, it was my fault. Alice Vaughn 1:00:30 But in all seriousness, I would love if you came out with honestly a web series because that's something that I know for myself, who's in New York events in LA, you know, we can't readily fly to Canada as much as we'd like. So to have the access, I mean, I would love to, you know, instead of paying for a flight, hotel, and etc, to come out there, I wouldn't mind paying for a class online just so I can learn what I need to learn and know how to do it right. Yvette d'Entremont 1:00:59 I know needs to know how to look good on camera when I'm having sit, wait, that's not what I want to I want to learn, although I do. I want to know what's in this class to like, these are things that I think people are curious about period. So I mean, if we're not the only ones who want to know, Samantha Mac 1:01:16 and I mean, I've got a ton of people asking me like if they can come from Eastern Canada or from the States, I had somebody from Tanzania messaged me, and I was like, Oh, don't bother coming. It'll be a waste of your money. Like, we're just doing an info session, like, stay where you are. So I want to be able to expand and reach people that physically cannot be here in my presence. But that is not where we're at this week. That is a future project. Nonetheless, yes, we've evolved a lot. And I know that this is going to continue to evolve. And we're at a point now where like, I could watch a couple have sex and give them tips and pointers on how to do it better on camera. But now we're at a point where like, I'm bringing in professionals to teach things that even I'm not necessarily the best ad because they're important, like anal sex, not a class I can teach if I've done too DVDs called all anal volumes one and two. And my scenes are not good. I literally ripped my asshole open before one of the scenes did the scene like squinching through pain the whole time and it still made it to the DVD for some reason. And now my husband is scarred for life and he'll never fuck my asshole again. So there's no fucking volunteer out there Alice Vaughn 1:02:23 and you're stumped, asshole. You need a stunt asshole. Samantha Mac 1:02:26 Well, I still want to have anal sex, but he's so scarred from filming the scene with me, knowing that I asked was ripped open from stretching the night before and it's a whole, a whole bunch of things could go wrong. But through this process of me learning by trial and error, I can save a lot of other people from having the same mistakes and I can help them be more successful. So learn from my mistakes, but also, in a situation like anal sex, don't learn from me. We will bring in a professional who is an anal Acrobat who can give you the real insider information and hidden tips and secrets to be successful at anal sex because I was not successful. Oh Yvette d'Entremont 1:03:01 yeah, anal sex can be wonderful and amazing, or it can go horribly wrong. So, take the steps do the work. It's just there's diligence required, but your patients will be rewarded. That is my glowing recommendation for the sex. Alice Vaughn 1:03:17 If you're listening to this podcast and you haven't had anal sex yet and you want to explore anal, start with a Pinkie seriously Yvette d'Entremont 1:03:24 start small start small size matters. Don't be ambitious, like you know how people are telling you to be motivated and ambitious. Don't do that with that sex. No low and slow. Do you Alice Vaughn 1:03:35 guys understand how ambitious event and IR fairy? Yvette d'Entremont 1:03:40 Let's take it back. Do you know how ambitious Alice is and how I kind of do the minimum required and show up and just spout out funny as necessary. I worked as hard as I needed to for an A minus and it worked out. Unknown Speaker 1:03:53 We're both telling you start tiny start tiny, Yvette d'Entremont 1:03:57 however much lube you think you need double, a triple But that is how you will not fuck this up probably. And don't be afraid of the enema. Embrace the enema, we want you to enjoy all your holes that you want to enjoy. Alice Vaughn 1:04:11 So, Sam this has been awesome speaking to you, where can our listeners find you and more of you and your content and your porno boot camp Samantha Mac 1:04:19 so you can find more about more of boot camp at Mac models.ca because we are canadian.ca everything that I film and produce I put on Mac movies.ca first because we provide our Canadians with Canadian content first and foremost. And then you can follow us on Mac movies calm if you'd like to join our membership site, which gets content throughout the week casually. But if you want it first, you go to the Mac reviews.ca because you know what somebody's gonna put Canadians first. Other than that, I'm all over the social media at the Samantha Mack spelt like the truck, not like the makeup and Alice Vaughn 1:04:58 I will There's a truck the Mack trucks Samantha Mac 1:05:01 the big giant aka the big semies No, you don't know your big law here. Yvette d'Entremont 1:05:09 Every so often we stumble across a gap analysis knowledge of general terminology, but it happens to me too. Alice Vaughn 1:05:16 I'm sorry I'm not familiar with semi trucks do not Samantha Mac 1:05:21 know about long distance trucking. Yvette d'Entremont 1:05:23 How is this not a thing that you've researched in depth in your in your education? Alice, I have disappointed in you. Alice Vaughn 1:05:30 I'm sorry. I know about 16 wheelers and other capacities. Samantha Mac 1:05:34 Wait, what other capacities? We'll discuss on Patreon. Yeah, I'm I'm Samantha Mac, I'm on everything except Instagram, which has put me in jail a few times. So now my new account is the Samantha Mac underscore. Oh, Instagram your Unknown Speaker 1:05:49 fun. Samantha Mac 1:05:50 Yeah. We also have like the Mac models on Instagram. We've got the Mac models and Mac movies on Twitter. Anything of the Mac related we've caught Alice Vaughn 1:05:57 and do you also have the big back? Samantha Mac 1:05:59 No That is copywritten that is I am not allowed to have the Big Mac god damn it Alice Vaughn 1:06:04 jerks. By the way we have more of this conversation over at Patreon so just by the way some of our patrons we want to thank this week hack Sora Steven Jones Wendy Cornwall Teresa Sal tordjman kallstrom Scott fendley sam mon to Neil Simpson, Neil hallstrom, my humble assassin, Mike sorbetto, Matthew Cole, MC, Angus, and many many others and if you want to become a Patreon yourself and hear more of this conversation, just hop on to patreon.com slash to girls with Mike. It's also in the show notes. So just click on it, you know, help support the show, help support the editing and you know, Yvette d'Entremont 1:06:40 keep the lights on help us eventually break into the black. Okay, one day because we were getting there. With your help, I will we will one day be able to afford things we're paying for. We can do this Unknown Speaker 1:06:52 one day to group effort help us pay for our porn one day I'll be able to afford more than just a fidget spinner bud plug Yvette d'Entremont 1:07:00 We want to fidget spinner about flux Alice Vaughn 1:07:03 so event where can our listeners find you by the way? Yvette d'Entremont 1:07:05 Y'all can find me at the Sybase on Instagram and Twitter and over@facebook.com slash cyber. I am snarky and sciency and occasionally political. Alice, where can people find you and our social media for the podcast Alice Vaughn 1:07:18 so guys go to girls on mic comm we have all the social media to Twitter to Facebook. They're also the Patreon Of course, but myself you could find being snarky and with bud plugs, I guess, at rational blonde on Twitter. Thanks for joining us this week, and we will see you guys next week. Unknown Speaker 1:07:35 Bye bye bye. Transcribed by https://otter.ai

28 Aug 20191h 7min

Alice & Yvette are joined by industry powerhouse and lemon stealing whore, Joanna Angel (@JoannaAngel). The ladies discuss her career, Joanna's choose your adventure book, Instagram, Alice's $500 crayon contest, furniture & logos in porn, clone dogs, and much more.  Get 20 FREE tokens for Cam4 Yvette d'Entremont 0:00 Here are two girls one Mic, we encourage you to find ethically produced porn and regular listeners know that it's a great time in the industry performers can set their own terms and interact with fans like you directly. Alice Vaughn 0:12 So we're partnering with kam for calm to bring him a special offer. Go to camp for coupon slash podcasts and create your free account and Kim Ford is giving you 20 free tokens to get you started, which you could send the models to stand out play games or make requests Yvette d'Entremont 0:28 is this game of finding porn? Alice Vaughn 0:31 It's not not gamifying porn. Yvette d'Entremont 0:33 I'm totally okay with this. So camphor has models who are game for almost anything if you're into it, Cam pours got it on demand with Alice Vaughn 0:42 tokens, requests like wave to the camera with a dildo, stuck on that same dildo while writing a stuffed unicorn. teach my Yvette d'Entremont 0:51 mother to use her iPhone Alice Vaughn 0:53 answer pre tell what exactly is their velocity of an unladen swallow read iron Rand Burn iron Rand call people Yvette d'Entremont 1:01 fascist for burning iron Rand Alice Vaughn 1:04 find a recipe for homemade ravioli Unknown Speaker 1:06 pretend to be my girlfriend from Canada with my roommate blocks in Alice Vaughn 1:10 touch yourself to the sounds of Jani. Yvette d'Entremont 1:12 Touch yourself to the sounds of Weird Al Yankovic. Alice Vaughn 1:15 Wait, you don't already Yvette d'Entremont 1:17 to enjoy some foreplay with the models before we finish you off. Go to camp or coupons calm slash podcast that's cam and the number for coupons.com slash podcast create your free account today. Unknown Speaker 1:33 This is two girls one Mike, the show that talks about the holes and plotholes of your favorite porn. Yvette d'Entremont 1:40 Welcome to Two girls one Mic the porn cast that has its very own Madonna whore complex. I'm your co host. We've had dogs from LA and here's my lovely talented and bubbly blonde co host Alice Vaughn Alice, how are you doing this week? Alice Vaughn 1:53 You know what I'm doing even better now that we all nailed the clap. And I do not mean chlamydia. Yvette d'Entremont 1:59 We did nail that Clap no to inform our listeners who may not be familiar with the wild world of audio editing, we all have our own separate tracks that we're recording in our remote little locations in Los Angeles, New York and a bunker somewhere in New Mexico, I assume, of course, and we have to record these tracks and to make sure that they're all lined up, we say 123 and then clap, and I am apparently not good at my rhythm Alice, we've learned is our good clap leader. So when she leads you to the clap, you're gonna like it. You're gonna walk away enjoying that experience? Yeah, our tangents are going weird today. Alice Vaughn 2:34 You know what, I will allow it and so will all of my gynecologist. Yvette d'Entremont 2:39 All of them do stuff I'm gonna call I want to know what's happening with your policy that you have all of them. Alice Vaughn 2:45 Look, I'm just saying that I double triple quadruple check that policy. So just not everyone, Yvette d'Entremont 2:50 like a second opinion. A fifth opinion. Now we have a guest speaking of vaginas and that have been checked and we think are delightful. We have wonderful guests on today that we're very happy to have. Oh, thank you. Alice Vaughn 3:03 I'm really excited because we have Joanna Angel on the show today. Hi. Okay, so you're basically a one woman Empire. Yvette d'Entremont 3:12 Yeah. Which is it's just so impressive in this industry. Alice Vaughn 3:15 Oh, thank you. You're a Hall of Famer, you're a writer. You're a director. You're a porn star. You're a lemon thief. Joanna Angel 3:22 I am 11 paid professionally. And a lemon. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah. Yvette d'Entremont 3:27 Now people know about your other work, but we need to hear about the lemon thievery. Joanna Angel 3:31 Yeah, well, Yvette d'Entremont 3:32 I've had a lemon tree. So I need to I have a vested interest in this. Unknown Speaker 3:36 Well, you better watch out. Unknown Speaker 3:39 For all those sealing holes Unknown Speaker 3:41 I'm coming for. Yvette d'Entremont 3:43 You know what, if someone's gonna steal my lemons, I want it to be Joanna Angel. I think that's fair. Joanna Angel 3:48 careful what you wish for. Yvette d'Entremont 3:51 I will invite you over to make some lemon curd with me if you steal my lemons. Alice Vaughn 3:56 All right. And so for our audience, and even those who are unaware Have the lemon thievery. So where that comes about is because you did from what I'm aware of in one of the porins there was a plot where James Dean and an actress I stole lemon. Yes. Where you stole lemons. And yeah, it's great because they look away from their lemon tree for about 10 seconds as they even say in their script. And you're like taking lemons and shoving them into a one piece. Joanna Angel 4:27 Yeah, yeah, that's like a one piece. I seriously did this porn like, probably 12 years ago. Wow. And it's very funny because like, I just remember the day I was going to set like I it's like, I wonder if that's how people feel when they record their hit song and like their first album, like I didn't know that day was going to be the day that no matter what else I did for the rest of my career would be more remembered than anything. Yvette d'Entremont 4:56 Try the day that you do the thing that people know you for Yeah, yeah. And it's you know, you peaked with that lemon tree man. Joanna Angel 5:05 Yeah, I think that was the beginning and end of my career was that. But yeah, I really didn't know. And it's funny but not funny or ironic and kind of sad. I mean, that guy in the same as my ex boyfriend and we definitely don't speak anymore and haven't spoken in probably, I don't know eight years or something. And the guy who shot the scene is dead in a girl on the scene is also dead. Very sad. Yeah. And I think he actually murdered her. But that's a whole other story. That I Oh, yeah, porno. That's Thanks, Matt. But I did steal the lemons. We made a great video. A lot of tragic things happen. 10 years later. Yeah, we all made a great. Unknown Speaker 5:51 I have questions. Unknown Speaker 5:53 Questions about the Unknown Speaker 5:58 baby. No, no. She was a good friend of mine. No, no. I mean, it's Unknown Speaker 6:04 the context of how I was told this funny, but not that and by the way murders. Unknown Speaker 6:09 Yeah, like lemons, Unknown Speaker 6:11 delightful part of career murders, we think I mean, I think it Joanna Angel 6:14 wasn't officially confirmed. I don't know. I stopped. Oh, man. Yvette d'Entremont 6:17 Oh my god. Yeah, there's Joanna Angel 6:20 a lot of darkness. And I was like, yeah. Yvette d'Entremont 6:26 That's a great line to start a chapter in a book. There was a lot of darkness in those lemons. Yeah, Joanna Angel 6:31 yes. So people always want to ask me about it. And I'm like, Alice Vaughn 6:36 well, it all started with lemons. Joanna Angel 6:39 But it was one of those things. It was. And I remember in the beginning of the day, the director was like, I don't know what to do today. And he had this lemon tree and he's like, why don't you just feel those lemons and then you get yelled at and it was like, okay, and I was so new in porn. I was like, Alright, well, that's not what I was expecting to do today. And then I remember looking at my suitcase that I brought To set and I was like, well, all the clothes I brought, you know was just like heels and stripper bikinis because, you know, I thought it was gonna be that kind of day. I was like I don't really have clothes to run around the yard and seal lemons music that's fine just where your where your stripper clothes. I was like, Alice Vaughn 7:19 Okay, what is the appropriate lemon stealing attire? Joanna Angel 7:23 You know, I don't know, I guess I was thinking like, you know, like shorts and a tank top. Yvette d'Entremont 7:27 Yeah, suburban housewife. It's just I thought this was a public alley and I could just grab the Joanna Angel 7:34 way way way before I was a milk. So I am bringing like, blazers and pants, you know that's that's very normal for me to bring to set now. But back then it was nothing but like, right, you know, color history for clothes. Don't tell Alice Vaughn 7:51 me that I've been wearing blazers since I exited the womb. Yvette d'Entremont 7:55 She has a shower blazer, very moisture wicking Joanna Angel 7:58 the plastic one Alice Vaughn 8:00 technically a poncho with an open slit okay yeah Joanna Angel 8:03 okay, well that's very fancy you must you must have a fancy shower where you have meetings in there and stuff Yvette d'Entremont 8:10 one day I think she should get like a latex blazer Alice Vaughn 8:14 Wait I want to latex place her Joanna Angel 8:16 see I knew a make latex blazers yeah they do Unknown Speaker 8:19 I know a couple of companies we could hook you up with I'm googling this what Joanna Angel 8:23 and make entire latex suits Oh yeah, they're not cheap so be careful put some money aside and get yourself a nice latex blazer Yeah, yeah if Yvette d'Entremont 8:31 you're gonna get latex invest put money in Joanna Angel 8:33 Yeah, right before you call it I was actually organizing all my clothes. Oh, and yeah, I just did a movie like a couple weeks ago or everybody was wearing latex in it. So I had this like entire bag full of just like lots and lots of latex and it was just spilled all over the floor. I'm like there's like about $7,000 worth of plastic in front oh right now. Like I better like folded up Yvette d'Entremont 8:57 and the smell of latex oil and powder is everywhere. Yeah, yeah, Joanna Angel 9:02 latex and lube and powder and everything. Yeah, Yvette d'Entremont 9:05 I did a teensy little bit of modeling, eight ish years ago and my first thing was a runway show in a latex dress. Yeah. So you still have the dress and I'm terrified to try putting it back on the same size. Yeah, but Mike's good. Go. Joanna Angel 9:21 Put some lube on and put it Yvette d'Entremont 9:23 next time we're at. Like, if we go to Exotica next year, Alice, I will bring the dress. Okay. You know, I've learned Joanna Angel 9:29 latex to exotic Well, I guess which exotic are we talking about? Alice Vaughn 9:34 That's a great question. I mean, they have Chicago, right, Florida, New Jersey and Portland. Are there any others think that's all? But uh, I'm gonna miss New Jersey, unfortunately this year. Oh, yeah, Joanna Angel 9:47 I've worn latex to the jersey one and then when you go outside, it's good. Because it's so cool that time of year in New Jersey. Alice Vaughn 9:55 October Joanna Angel 9:56 you will think it is people think it's bad to wear latex in the heat because you get sweaty I don't care I can be sweaty all day but like i mean it's literally like you're wearing a piece of plastic in the freezing cold era like it's like the good like got 20 degrees colder Yvette d'Entremont 10:09 you get cold in ways that you don't expect you know the feeling when you when your nipples are hard from the cold it's like that exacerbated in horrible horrible ways. Yeah Joanna Angel 10:21 knows it was crazy but I'd still recommend it. I'm very pro latex. I love I love latex. It feels really Yvette d'Entremont 10:27 good on your skin. Joanna Angel 10:28 It doesn't it looks beautiful and like it's my like designer clothes like I don't buy blue buttons or whatever. I don't I've never bought like a designer anything in my life. But I will buy like nice latex. So when I want to like go somewhere fancy, like a latex. It just Yvette d'Entremont 10:46 looks fancy it does. Here's an opportunity for a quick learning moment because our audience might have people that are interested in latex. What should someone look for in a good piece of latex? Alice Vaughn 10:55 I don't own any latex. So I'm learning Joanna Angel 10:57 you know, I don't know because I've always Bought latex from like two people and they're like two of the best people. So I don't know. I mean, I would just make sure it's like rapido. But what's the worst that could happen? It's just Yvette d'Entremont 11:10 eloping. Yeah, it's something that falls apart quickly those types of issues. I mean, ultimately, Joanna Angel 11:15 it's close. Yeah, like, just try it on. If it feels right where you know, it's not like, you're gonna get like a, like a medical. Yvette d'Entremont 11:31 Yeah, a medical emergency from later. I'm trying to think yeast. Yeah, right. Alice Vaughn 11:36 I know how much he's built up is there if there's a medical emergency is having real Joanna Angel 11:41 bad. Alice Vaughn 11:42 Do we need to call one of my nine gynecologists? Joanna Angel 11:45 It's up to nine. Now what happened to the last 20 minutes was for that it was five now it's nine. There is a situation occurring in Alice. Do you alternate them? Do you lie to that to the other ones? Do you say Oh, it's my yearly exam, but you're Really going every month to someone? Yvette d'Entremont 12:02 This isn't about the gynecology Alice, Alice Vaughn 12:05 I actually did that one time. Unknown Speaker 12:07 This is about vaginal validation at this point, the most unsexy affair I've ever heard of. Yvette d'Entremont 12:14 I just want someone to tell me it's pretty Unknown Speaker 12:18 good matcha is valid and tell me the clitoral hood is normal Alice Vaughn 12:24 I just want to confirm the weightless Libya flaps normal right Yvette d'Entremont 12:28 it's okay at the left one's bigger right it's okay Alice Vaughn 12:31 for waves high right? It's okay if my Libya has its own form of nipples right Yvette d'Entremont 12:38 I have questions doctor know if your Libya has its own form of nipples please email us info at two girls one calm Joanna Angel 12:46 I can't answer those questions. You got to call God call doctor. Yvette d'Entremont 12:50 This is why you have nine gynecologist Yeah, Joanna Angel 12:52 if one of them tell him no and then maybe one more, Yvette d'Entremont 12:56 your lady a gently week. Alice Vaughn 13:00 If my lady is crying and I could tell it's definitely not come, should I? So your gynecology Yvette d'Entremont 13:06 the color would suggest what to do with that. Oh, Lord, why does my Alice Vaughn 13:11 lady I have tear ducts? Yvette d'Entremont 13:13 Tears of my maybea sorry. That was how the song went, right? Joanna Angel 13:18 Yes, yes. Yeah, Alice Vaughn 13:20 it definitely is a hit single by the bangles. Yes. So, I mean, you've kind of been a pioneer in Well, someone would describe it as punk rock porn, or really what suicide babes tried being but I think you best describe them as the McDonald's of ultra porn. Yvette d'Entremont 13:41 So funny. I said that once. That's an amazing line. People keep remembering it. It's so funny. I mean, you've managed to create an empire out of producing something that people didn't know they wanted. And once they saw it, they're like, yes. So I want more of this. Yeah. And I mean, that's you. I think you figured out what you wanted to watch is what a I mean, or at least that's what I feel when I see your work. Yeah, Joanna Angel 14:02 no, it really is. Over the years, sometimes when times were slow, or I was just stuck, I'd be like, Okay, well, let me just look at like the market and look at stats and try to just make what I think people want to see. And every time I do that, would fail. And I'm like, okay, I just have to literally make my business plan to keep just doing whatever the fuck I want, which is like a blessing and a curse because people who do have to follow trends and very much study their data and their stats and everything like it's, it's easier to figure out what to do next, you know, but I'm like, every time I try to do that, it wouldn't really work. So I have to just kind of wait for that moment or I'm like, ah, I have no idea. Okay, let's do this. Guy. Now. Everything just Yvette d'Entremont 14:54 always went down. I feel you as a creative, Joanna Angel 14:57 totally the worst way to run it. Yes, ever. I'm not going to be Mark Cuban When I grow up, but I did actually which maybe maybe people now maybe people don't know in January, I sold my company. Oh, I didn't know that. Unknown Speaker 15:10 Wow. Yeah, Rugrats. Joanna Angel 15:12 No, thank you. Yeah, I mean, I owned it for 16 or 17 years or something. Yvette d'Entremont 15:18 You do not look old enough to have owned a business for six or seven years. So you've done well, really, Joanna Angel 15:23 I'm still directing for it. It's kind of cool, because now I know I get like a check from someone else. Alice Vaughn 15:29 You'll just all the liability. Joanna Angel 15:31 Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that's cool. So not much has changed to the fans. You know, look, one day they could take it away from me. They could fire me, they could end it, they could change it. And I won't really have control, unfortunately. But that day is not today. So I'm still directing. And yeah, I think after a while, I learned I really loved creating and I love making movies and I love producing more so than I liked all the business. See business stuff. Think there once upon a time, I was like, you know, I want to, like, make this business bigger and start other businesses and like, I had a lot of employees and I was doing all this stuff. And then like, I think later on, I was like, I really like any of the business part of business. I, my favorite part is, is creating. Yeah, so selling the company how, you know, Yvette d'Entremont 16:19 I think you learn for running a company if you like doing the stuff that fuels the company, or if you like running it true, Joanna Angel 16:24 cuz you kinda have to do everything. Yeah. Uh huh. Or you have to pay someone else to do it. So Yvette d'Entremont 16:32 like, I'm a writer, I just want to be funny. I want someone else to like, make the thing run. Yeah, no, and it's unfortunately doesn't work that way until you're making enough money to pay someone to make it run. So it's like getting over that hump. That's the hard part. No, I know. Joanna Angel 16:47 Well, I actually am not sure if you guys knew this either. But I wrote a book last year. I actually have two years ago now. Yeah, it came out last year. It's called Night Shift. Congratulations. Yeah, it said that you find on Amazon night shift. By Joanna Angel we'll put in the show notes. Yes. It's a choose your own adventure. Yvette d'Entremont 17:06 erotic novel. Oh, I'm getting this. Alice Vaughn 17:09 Wait, I want it. Joanna Angel 17:10 Hold on. Yeah, I actually I have to start another one I have I'm contractual this Yvette d'Entremont 17:14 in my on my Amazon wishlist. Thank Joanna Angel 17:16 you. I mean, you just bought it. It's like $12. So yeah, I know. It's Yvette d'Entremont 17:20 just putting out there fans if you want to, if you want to get the analysis to, if you you should buy it for yourselves and gift it to me and I'll Alice Vaughn 17:29 wait. I have a question about choose your own adventure with erotica specifically, Joanna Angel 17:34 and I'll show you guys I have it right. Literally right here. I Yvette d'Entremont 17:37 want there to be like a disappointing ending. I wanted to be like, and the Cialis doesn't work and you get about three pumps in before he makes you a disappointing breakfast of leftover steak and runny eggs. True story. Hey, Alice Vaughn 17:52 that was my book. The choice Okay, night shift. Got it. Nice Angel. I will definitely link this in the show notes. I'm curious. What kind of choices do you give people put in the ass versus put it in a vagina and then you see what happens and if you choose wrong, your dick breaks off. Now Donna that extreme Okay, I am writing the wrong novels. Well, Joanna Angel 18:14 there is some choices like that there is certain parts of the book where the main character goes and explores things and then in one path she's dominant and in one path missive there's like one path Do you want to like Yvette d'Entremont 18:29 so you're kind of writing the character, not just writing the little decisions? Alice Vaughn 18:33 Yeah, in one path. You're getting audited for your taxes for the last five years. Yeah. Joanna Angel 18:39 But you know, there's a story there's a bunch of different paths to take. Yvette d'Entremont 18:42 There's actually there's a path where she likes the long term and there's a path or she thinks that tastes like so Joanna Angel 18:46 bright. I don't understand why some people think it tastes like so Unknown Speaker 18:50 there's an actual genetic reason for it. It's a gene and you know, Joanna Angel 18:54 everyone I've met that doesn't like cilantro. Eventually we wind up having a really big falling out later. So, don't think I can get along with people that don't like cilantro. Alice Vaughn 19:04 You're in LA. On tacos. I get it. Unknown Speaker 19:08 Deal Breaker. Yeah. I wonder if there are people who think it tastes like soap and also like it. Joanna Angel 19:13 Is there anyone out there who thinks it tastes like soap and also likes it? That's a good point. Yvette d'Entremont 19:18 Because I wonder I wonder when I'm tasting it. I'm like, I like the flavor of it, but I might tasting it in a way that other people also interpret as tasting like soap, but I like this flavor, because I don't I like the flavor. But I wonder what this how people interpret it as soapy. You know, that's fucking with my head. Joanna Angel 19:37 lamps. There might be some people out there who really like so if you enjoyed the taste of soap, Alice Vaughn 19:41 email us at info to girls on mic calm. We just want to know, Yvette d'Entremont 19:45 because I've tried a loop that you might enjoy. Joanna Angel 19:47 Yeah, right. So there's just a lot of different paths, but it's about a girl that works at a porn store. So you know, there's different people that come in, and you can find us she has her own little adventure with different people. The Adventures have more adventures. I have to write another one. So yeah I You said you're a writer. I don't know if you've written a book but it's it's very hard. It's a lot. Yvette d'Entremont 20:08 Yeah, I've done the work of writing a book and we're still working on it but yeah, I feel you there's there's a ton of like heart and effort and research to make sure that the thing is cohesive. You have to go a little bit crazy. Yeah. And you need to make sure that your voice is consistent throughout. So there's, there's a lot that goes into it more like Normally I'm an essayist. But the book is a different beast. You're writing fiction. I think a lot of what people run into is you have to make sure every character's voice is very different because essentially you are everybody's voice but yeah, make every character sound the same. Getting characters out of your head and forgetting you into there's got to be them. Yeah, you really have it's a mindfuck to stop being you and your writing. Joanna Angel 20:50 I have to write another one. I'm supposed to be done with one by like January so I should probably start one of these. Alice Vaughn 20:57 I never even considered that that you have to Think as if you're different people if you're writing Joanna Angel 21:03 Yeah. Okay. I think you know, I think I think everybody should do it. You know, we live in LA. Everybody here so like, has a personality disorder? Yeah, like narcissistic. Yeah. Myself included. Now you know, you become a little bit like, you know, you get some notoriety like you start Oh yeah, you're like this weird character of yourself all the time and like I think writing fiction is a very good exercise for people because you literally have to step outside yourself. And like to be someone else, you know, you can make alternative versions Yvette d'Entremont 21:40 of yourself and get some other voices of I don't want to say their voices in my head, but you can get the other thoughts you've had that you can't voice as you Yeah, through another character or thoughts that you don't agree with. And you can have those fights outside externally. Alice Vaughn 21:57 Yeah, everyone has them. I mean, I feel with myself multiple times in cars and showers, I've won so many arguments. Those are my places. Yvette d'Entremont 22:06 Yeah, the shower is a great place to have it out with yourself. Alice Vaughn 22:09 Yes, it really is. or to recap on debates you could have won, Yvette d'Entremont 22:14 or that you're gonna win later today that you know, are never gonna happen. This is why I'm right. Somehow seeing the person that you're that you were totally going to have a huge argument with. They never happened. No, I'd like the volume level of it goes down by about 12 notches. Alice Vaughn 22:31 Yeah. Or you see a popular tweet and you get so angry but you don't know how to respond online. So just argue about it in the shower. I'm sorry, Ben Shapiro. We have debated multiple times. Yvette d'Entremont 22:41 Yeah. Ben Shapiro is a sad little man. Joanna Angel 22:44 I know I'm not one of those people that I don't I don't like to fight with people. On Twitter I do is different. It gives me anxiety. I don't like it. But so like when I see something I don't agree with I have to like, tell someone. You're like, I don't know. But I won't say on Twitter it Yvette d'Entremont 23:02 depends on the group that's being douchey on Twitter if I'm going to engage or not, like if I know engaging with this person will get their little army of sad people on my case, then I'm like and not worth my time, right? Unknown Speaker 23:15 If it's gonna Yvette d'Entremont 23:15 get me new followers, I'll admit I'm like, trolling for new people to come and listen to the podcast and read my writing. That's, that's good. I admire that. You know, I can't get it. You're passionate. Ben Shapiro is fine. Joanna Angel 23:28 One day, if I were retiring from life, I'm just gonna respond to everyone I ever wanted to stay when I like and then delete. Yvette d'Entremont 23:40 I am a firm believer in deleting Twitter history. That's further back than a year. Unknown Speaker 23:44 Oh, okay. Yvette d'Entremont 23:46 That makes sense. Like why? Yeah, because your Twitter has three this longer than a year old really isn't relevant. I think that everyone has like tweets that are within a conversation where you're just like, fuck you delete your account that a year later look stupid and in the moment were completely fine and were completely in the tone. And I think that's a pretty normal thing to do is like a lot of people go back and delete tweets that are longer than a year old. Unknown Speaker 24:11 That's a good idea. Yvette d'Entremont 24:13 I don't do it on my Facebook page, but Twitter Yeah, like those are just a lot of those are 140 characters shits, like, Joanna Angel 24:19 I like Instagram. I think it's a more friendly place. Yes, you know, you can post cool photos of food and dogs and look at the good looking people. And you can just write like, a witty little caption and like, you know, there's less like, it's this oasis of non douchey Enos. Yeah, yeah, I've learned things. I've learned recipes and workout routines and like things that are useful rather than better Yvette d'Entremont 24:48 for makeup stuff. Joanna Angel 24:50 Yeah, makeup stuff. It's really good for that. And it's Yvette d'Entremont 24:53 like it's it's slightly less gossipy than the YouTube makeup. Joanna Angel 24:56 Totally. Yeah. And it's just a happier friendlier place. I tried to kick off porn stars all the time, but others Yeah. Alice Vaughn 25:04 Have you had any issues with that? Joanna Angel 25:06 I haven't a Alice Vaughn 25:08 knock on everything knocking out so much wood. I'm knocking on everything. I'll Joanna Angel 25:12 knock on some dicks. I'm very, very, very careful. You know, so I should probably be even more careful than I am. But it's hard. It's like, I gotta promote my stuff. And my stuff is hard. But I try to be very careful, tasteful Yvette d'Entremont 25:25 or quote, tasteful in the pictures that are posted to promote it. Alice Vaughn 25:28 Well, we've also had conversations with multiple people on the show. I forgot who mentioned it, but Oh, Lance Hart, who mentioned Yeah, how different are Fitzpatrick people from porn stars? I mean, come Unknown Speaker 25:40 on, in terms of what they're posting not. Not Alice Vaughn 25:44 much. Yeah, no, Joanna Angel 25:46 I could say the difference which I know I know the porn star argument for it. And, well, the differences that most of us porn stars are promoting our porn. So yes. From what I understand, because I've actually like Talk to people at Instagram about it. You know, porn people like aren't getting deleted for the amount of nudity. They are getting deleted because they're promoting porn. So the difference people do say like, oh, like this fitness model, she's showing her nipples. Why can't I show my nipples? It's like, because when you show your nipples, you're saying, watch my new scene on so and so's calm and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. But the fitness person is not saying that they're like posting a fitness routine. They're just saying to buy their diet tea instead. Instagram is actually banning all accounts that promote flat tummy tea. No. Oh. Nice. Yeah, they're starting to crack down on stuff like good, Yvette d'Entremont 26:44 cuz flat tummy tea is bullshit. Joanna Angel 26:48 It's a tough thing, you know, because we're all using it to promote our business. And it's a very gray area of whether we're allowed to promote our business or not, you know, I have read it. If you're Promoting a website where the homepage has a, like a splash page, like, are you over 18? Then Okay, there. So that is the difference, unfortunately, and I know a lot of porn people say it and they're like, oh, why can't this person and why does this person get to wear a thong? And I don't? It's like, well, because you're promoting porn. And that's technically against the rules. So you have to be like, like, what kind of criminals? I don't know. Like, if you're a criminal, you gotta pay your taxes on time, or else you know what I mean? Alice Vaughn 27:30 It's like, you have to be more careful when you're doing, you're already violating things in the first place. And I completely get it because listeners of the show know that I own a brand called offensive crayons, and I was banned from Amazon. And sometimes people freak out about, hey, why were you banned from Amazon? And why am I not you know, banging down doors and drums and because at the same time, I also believe that platforms have a right to be asked what kind of content they do allow and don't allow I think for me it's what I care about are what rules are they setting down and then how are they you know, applying those rules to different people you know exactly Yvette d'Entremont 28:11 I think they applied the rule in a silly way to you but at the same time, your product is called offensive crayons. Joanna Angel 28:17 You wanted to offend people. Unknown Speaker 28:19 Yeah, it works. You offended white people and children Alice Vaughn 28:22 tactically, Caucasians, Caucasians what Joanna Angel 28:26 was so offensive about the crayons, the crayons they have colors Alice Vaughn 28:29 like boner pill blue and miscarriage Maroon but I mean, one of the things that I wrote about children was in my marketing ad for Amazon when I had it up I basically said I can guarantee that these weren't made with slave labor. Okay, look, I'm saying is they're, they're tiny fingers in China are just very good for when you're eight years old. I'm just putting on the crown labels. Okay? No, it's done by a machine. So it wasn't actually done by children, but I was being very tongue in cheek There's plenty of colors that are a lot worse within the set, but I make fun of everyone. There's a white color called privilege. There's Oh, that's funny. The black one is called Lives Matter. Yvette d'Entremont 29:12 So Joanna Angel 29:13 that's cute. Well, I'm sure there's a place for those crayons somewhere. You can sell them on your Instagram. I maybe Yvette d'Entremont 29:23 they do pretty well from just going viral from time to time. Alice Vaughn 29:26 Oh, really? Yeah. And actually so and I'll plug it really quick on this podcast. So if you're listening to this episode, so I have a contest right now for new porn sex pack, where if you go on to the website offensive Krantz calm you go to the color name, submit a color name section. If I choose your color name between now and September 1, are they sold anywhere? Unknown Speaker 29:51 Yeah, well. Alice Vaughn 29:53 They know they totally are. They're sold and plenty of gift stores. I actually just signed a licensing deal with the same company that does distribution for Hasbro and Mattel. Oh, geez. Okay, see Yvette d'Entremont 30:05 your Barbie doll? Joanna Angel 30:07 You don't need Amazon. Oh. Alice Vaughn 30:10 Well, I'll get back on I will fight them. Oh yeah. or someone's lawyers will fight them. But my point is this if you think you have an offensive color name submitted because if I choose your name for the porn sex pack then you could possibly be the proud owner of $500 in gain the crayon name into the set so offensive Krantz calm Yvette d'Entremont 30:32 Okay, I'm gonna submit some there are kind of not rules but guidelines. What makes a good color name? Don't send us a color name. That's just the N word because it's offensive. That's not clever or funny. Yep. Joanna Angel 30:45 If you're going to have open submissions, not funny people are going to come in. Not pick them. Yvette d'Entremont 30:51 Yep, we're just saying there are guidelines. You can do it. We trust you. Alice Vaughn 30:55 I've had so many people already Submit. Boo cocky. Why'd come stain Why? Red Rocket like you guys we you know Yvette d'Entremont 31:02 what we do for a living right like we thought of those yeah right go existential with this. Joanna Angel 31:08 What's blue khaki white like I get it I get it like there's a lot like I get there's a lot of come in a blue khaki and becomes white but that's like a far stretch man. So you know, like, Yvette d'Entremont 31:20 like for gray or green, we're probably gonna go with the guilt you feel from getting off a little too hard to tentacle porn, Alice Vaughn 31:28 something like that. Joanna Angel 31:30 That's gonna be really long. This needs to be a long ass crayon. Yvette d'Entremont 31:33 Figure it out. We do multiple lines. Alice Vaughn 31:35 I know. For one of the greens My heart is set on the money that porn stars don't get from clip sites. Something like that. Unknown Speaker 31:43 I don't know. Alice Vaughn 31:44 You know, I have to just reiterate people should pay for their porn at some point your Yvette d'Entremont 31:49 porn. Pay for your porn. It's whispered into the wind ASMR notification to pay for your board. Alice Vaughn 31:57 Guys. I know you haven't written comments. And it shows. I also know I show offense. No offense guys, we're just saying some people do some sense actually from the Yvette d'Entremont 32:11 given that it's offensive crayons, so don't do it. Alice Vaughn 32:13 The worst part was on the first day of the contest. Do you guys understand how many entries I got? How many Take a guess? 700. More. So on it is 1200 around 1200 entries the first day. Yvette d'Entremont 32:28 Were there any good ones? Alice Vaughn 32:30 There were maybe like three good ones. That's fine. I would I would expect that Yvette d'Entremont 32:35 that's a bad person. That's not bad. The percentage is pretty bad. You're putting Joanna Angel 32:41 the creative choice in other people's hands. It's true, but the Yvette d'Entremont 32:45 suggestion we're throwing out is look at the color names for all the other packs that are out and look at the rules and just don't send us period blood red man, that's not a good name. No, it's not. I guess Joanna Angel 32:56 you should have a list of all the all the reject names. Alice Vaughn 32:59 What I think about We're gonna do is write an email to all of my people on my mailing list of all the reject names or I'm going to post that somewhere where these were the worst of the worst. Yeah, Joanna Angel 33:09 I think that'd be funny. Yeah, do the worst ones. Alice Vaughn 33:13 Why not? I mean, there's so many I keep getting over and over. I feel like I should at least come out with maybe a top 20 or top 10. Unknown Speaker 33:22 Or so bad. Not gonna be funny. Yvette d'Entremont 33:25 This is exactly what we're not looking for. We'll get you know, closer to $500. But Alice Vaughn 33:33 you've also written plenty of comedy. Joanna Angel 33:35 Yes. Lots and lots of it. Alice Vaughn 33:37 I have to say event and I reviewed the Walking Dead porn that you shot. Oh, thank you. We preferred it over the actual version of the walk. Yeah, I don't like The Yvette d'Entremont 33:48 Walking Dead and I loved the Walking Dead port. It was amazing. Joanna Angel 33:52 Thank you very much. Yeah. Tommy pistol has a lot to do Unknown Speaker 33:55 with that one. We've never seen a thing with him that we didn't like. Joanna Angel 33:58 Yeah, Tommy's amazing. A very special person. Alice Vaughn 34:02 And I remember actually the first time we had Tommy on our show, he mentioned that you helped him get into porn. Yeah, Unknown Speaker 34:08 I mean, I got him into porn. Yvette d'Entremont 34:12 I said, Well, Joanna Angel 34:12 we got into porn. Yeah, we got into porn together. Unknown Speaker 34:16 Oh, yeah. Joanna Angel 34:18 Like my porno brother. And Alice Vaughn 34:19 he was telling us about fucking on a rooftop. Joanna Angel 34:21 It was my first scene and his first scene. Alice Vaughn 34:24 Wait, it was your first scene as well? Yvette d'Entremont 34:26 Yeah, it's like the genesis Joanna Angel 34:28 of I don't know anybody else who that's happened to because that's like the Adam and Eve of the Sarah just Yvette d'Entremont 34:34 right to life. Joanna Angel 34:36 Oh, yeah, we are. We're like, oh my god. Yvette d'Entremont 34:40 In the beginning. It's like the Alpha and Omega came into being on this one day and no one knew this was the penis and vagina that we're gonna put right there. Sure. Oh, wow. All right. Yeah, I'm gonna stop being shocked by that. I'm just I just I just want to sit back and apply. I want to find that video now. Yeah, Joanna Angel 34:57 it's in 2004 2000 I've donated our first scene. Yeah, it's so cool. Alice Vaughn 35:03 I'm just personally disappointed that New York doesn't have a bigger porn scene. Because I know you and Tommy are from New York. Joanna Angel 35:10 Yeah. And we did it in New York for a really long time. And then it was time to go, you know, I made porn in New York for a while. And then I was really sad when I had to leave. I tried to make it work, you know? But it's like, it makes sense. You know, and I was so I'm never moving to LA I'm never moving to LA LA is wonderful. And Yvette d'Entremont 35:29 I will vouch for LA every time. I'm just saying the weed is legal here. And you it's like, it's like New York, but you can breathe. Joanna Angel 35:39 I don't like breathing. So. Alice Vaughn 35:42 Thank you. It's overrated. Yvette d'Entremont 35:44 Look, I like breathing intermittently, a little blood choking is fine. Joanna Angel 35:47 I mean, I've lived here I've lived in LA for, I don't know, 1012 years now. So I can't even say New York is home anymore. But New York is always going to be home to me. Yeah. You know, you Yvette d'Entremont 35:57 have your spot in the universe that you're drawn to magnetically drawn to Yeah, Joanna Angel 36:01 but it kind of makes sense you know the porn shot here like first everything in New York is very small you know and like for filming anything not just filming a porn you need a big yeah it's like film people fucking cramped in like a Alice Vaughn 36:18 walking apartment yeah and also Joanna Angel 36:21 just the weather you know oh yeah there's like eight days of nice weather in New York and you know you need any outdoors you do there girls walking outside, you know girls doing stripteases by swimming pool and I mean just filming anything is kind of more convenient. Yvette d'Entremont 36:39 It's almost guaranteed good weather here. You know as long as Burbank isn't on fire, you'll be fine. Yeah, Joanna Angel 36:45 and even if it is, there's plenty of other places to shoot it you know. I mean, I did I remember when all the fires were going on, I had to remove shoots it took, I don't know. 15 minutes. Yvette d'Entremont 36:55 The burping fires two years ago. I literally moved the day before that happened. I was like packed the car got to San Francisco. And the next day everything was on fire. And then I was basically camped out for one month at one house in the move to the place. I was going to be living a little bit further north near Napa. Those fires were eight miles away. I was like, ah, just the last few years has been everything burned. Yeah. All of our guests live in a bunker in New Mexico. where we live. Joanna Angel 37:21 Yeah. But um, you know, it just makes more sense for part to be shot in LA but there's a lot of like fetish stuff in New York. And there's I guess like, I think one company that still shoots in New York, Alice Vaughn 37:34 I mean, there's only so many ways to make a park a sexy Hey, just be more imaginative Joanna Angel 37:39 there. I mean, there's nowhere you can find like, I remember when we used to shoot and a lot of places like is very few places you can find anywhere that's quiet. Like you know, just things you need Alice Vaughn 37:51 and outside la like I'm just saying I've never shot or directed anything. So now I have to bear in mind, you know? Walking into different apartments oh wait this is horrible for filming Joanna Angel 38:03 yeah very difficult to film stuff when there's loud car noises passing every five seconds you know like the ambulance very common thing on a film set where the sound guy will be like hold for sound hold for sound like it's just like in New York. There's so many sounds. Barry Are you can't hold for southern New York you'll never record anything are some stupid I mean, obviously people film things in New York. I have like, been to like little shoots in New York, filming TV shows and stuff, you know, and they're in studios with the studios are very embarrassing, very expensive. And in LA, I think because there's just so many people shooting porn, you know? Just make sense. Alice Vaughn 38:41 Okay, so now that you've sold your company, what are you excited about doing nowadays? So are you writing directing, shooting more? What are you doing? action figure? Joanna Angel 38:51 Yeah, I'm still writing. I'm still. Alice Vaughn 38:54 I'm just I mean, I'm directing actually. More than ever, you know, we didn't you win. This past year like best seen at the AV ns one a bunch of things Unknown Speaker 39:06 you're like, thanks for like not to brag, but Yvette d'Entremont 39:09 I'm on top of everything. Alice Vaughn 39:10 Yeah, actually, Alice you're kind of forgetting like the 16 different awards but Okay, Yvette d'Entremont 39:15 tell us tell us Joanna Angel 39:16 well this year or other years or which award show or I Unknown Speaker 39:19 don't know Yvette d'Entremont 39:20 which one are you proud of? So I was just referring to a VMs Joanna Angel 39:23 this past year and a vn I won for Best Supporting Actress actually. Oh, in which film in a trailer park taboo, Yvette d'Entremont 39:33 we're gonna have to review it then. Joanna Angel 39:35 It's not a very happy movie. It's a sad movie. It's actually the first drama I wrote in porn, Alice Vaughn 39:41 but we haven't watched any dramas yet. So trailer Yvette d'Entremont 39:44 park taboo, we're watching it. Joanna Angel 39:46 Yeah. So that was the first drama I directed and it was nominated for a lot of awards, but the only one at one was the supporting actors but for me, in the in the best supporting actress role of the nice college girl. You know, it's very sad story. It's like Eight Mile, but Alice Vaughn 40:01 Oh, it's Eight Mile but with porn I like that. Yeah. putting it on the docket. Yes. We only have about 1000 films on the docket but Yvette d'Entremont 40:12 yes, it means we're going to be in business for a good long time. Yeah, I'm waiting for us to be like in our in our late 70s and still doing this podcast. You never know if podcasts and the internet and civilization are still a thing. Alice Vaughn 40:27 We'll be the Dr. Ruth, Ruth of Paul and the revealing. Yvette d'Entremont 40:32 stucco. I'm not even going to try to do the accent today. I'm not sorry, is Dr. Lewis ignite, I have the Jewish Nish but not the Russian this. I can't do them together. Joanna Angel 40:44 You know, he go on burning Angel because we have lots of movies that you can review. Yvette d'Entremont 40:50 What's your favorite work you've done that you've been involved with in any way? Ah, I don't know. Alice Vaughn 40:54 What's your least favorite work? How about that memorable I mean Joanna Angel 41:00 Every time I make a new movies, I always like my new ones better than my old ones. You know, I think everybody Yvette d'Entremont 41:06 that happens with me and my writing to myself. Joanna Angel 41:09 Yeah, and Well, last year in in just in December, I made a movie called Insomniac. That's that's probably my favorite one. So it's thriller. And then I guess Okay, I guess I have two of my favorite ones of all time and one which did win for Best Comedy a couple years ago. And it was called choose love black cock. And it's my favorite very specific as a as a Jew. I approve of this. Yeah, well, you should have watched that movie is very important movie and Jewish cinema. Unknown Speaker 41:44 L'chaim. I'll watch it okay. A lot Joanna Angel 41:47 of people think it's funny because I get it. The title is funny, but like the movie is legitimately funny. Like, it's not just like, we have to watch this though. You know, I get it. The title you laugh at because it's important. Title Oh Yvette d'Entremont 42:00 no, I think it's amazing and I want to see it for so many reasons. Joanna Angel 42:04 A movie you will laugh with, I promise it's very funny I worked very very hard on it and I actually had before I filmed it I had a good friend of mine who's like a comedian. Look over some of it and they were like in tears. We have Yvette d'Entremont 42:18 to review this and I feel like we have to get a black friend on to review it with us. So we have a Jewish friend a black friend and our most arion person we know Joanna Angel 42:27 Yeah, never met a black person or a Jewish person that didn't like the movie The only people that were offended by it were Unknown Speaker 42:33 the goyim yeah white people that Joanna Angel 42:35 weren't either Alice Vaughn 42:36 let's find a rabbi if your Rabbi email us info to girls on mic calm Yvette d'Entremont 42:40 let's get our friend BJ Kramer on he is the CJ is a former has said but like he like escaped and we have Tales from him. Yeah, Joanna Angel 42:51 there's some Hasidic people in my family Yvette d'Entremont 42:53 as I like to say I'm Jewish. Yeah, that's a little bit. Mine is guilt and lock cuz that's basically my Religion Joanna Angel 43:00 Yeah, I would highly recommend watching it. It's very funny joke a Black Hawk. And then also there was another movie that was one of my favorites and it's called metal massage. And it's about two metal heads that run a massage parlor. And I really love it. It's very funny. Alice Vaughn 43:15 This is gonna sound very silly, but what is a metal head per se? I mean, you just got to see the movie. Find out. I was just wow, like really into metal music. Joanna Angel 43:26 I mean, they're like two dudes with big hair and they you know, and then they kind of like the typical massages they do like like they had an air guitar special in the massage parlor, where the misuse just plays air guitar and the girl this girl massages herself. I'm picturing some singing Unknown Speaker 43:48 in the middle of the massage. We don't have the license to do that, but Oh, yeah, Joanna Angel 43:54 but it's it's really funny. I really love that one too. We had like a lot of fun making that one. Alice Vaughn 43:59 Yeah. I can imagine though, where licenses come into an issue where you want to maybe, you know, pull in a song, but then you can't play it because you don't have the rights to it Joanna Angel 44:11 in any song at all. I actually have a lot of when burning Angel first started, I used some, like rancid songs and bouncing soul songs and stuff in some of my earlier movies, because I did I had like good friends that were friends of the man and you know, and Alice Vaughn 44:25 it was awesome, but that is very rare. Yeah, nowadays you get pulled with a DMCA like this, right? Well, Joanna Angel 44:32 yeah. Okay, I put a song in any movie unless you have permission. I mean, that would be insane. Yeah, Unknown Speaker 44:38 absolutely. Alice Vaughn 44:40 I mean, I also recorded like a little bit of the AV ends, and I had like the trail end of I think, some cardi B and they're like, No, you can't. And I didn't realize the things you Unknown Speaker 44:53 learn. Yvette d'Entremont 44:54 They're out to find it you realize Joanna Angel 44:55 why all porn looks the way it does. You know, like When you can't use logos and you can't use songs and you can't you know, you realize like how much Alice Vaughn 45:07 you can't use logos so a lot of clothing Do you have to not use stuff that ever has logos on it can't use stuff that ever has load. Wow. Joanna Angel 45:13 I mean, you can't do that in a regular movie either. But they get permit. Alice Vaughn 45:17 I didn't realize that Joanna Angel 45:19 you can you know how many times I've had to black out like the Nike logo on sneakers because it's always like, you're doing doggy you always see the guy shoes always there's always like, Yvette d'Entremont 45:27 Oh, that's true. One of my friends they were filming a reality show in his house and they had to take like black electrical tape and put it over every like a Maytag label on the refrigerator label over that when I use Joanna Angel 45:38 it in my house. I used to live in a shoot house. And yeah, everything. Everything in the house was black tape everywhere. It felt like sorry. Yeah, because apparently otherwise it's advertising. Yeah. I mean, you can't even have paintings hung up that you'd unless it's like public domain stuff. You know? What? Yeah, somebody's painting. Unknown Speaker 45:59 That's a good thing. point Joanna Angel 46:00 though. That is, yeah, that's why when you see most porn, it's like in a very generic looking house with very ugly artwork on the wall. That's like, oh, here's this painting. That's like a weird red splotch. Yvette d'Entremont 46:14 Whatever, like you were allowed. Exactly. You have to buy the most. Hey, it's not a Rothko, but it looks like it Alice Vaughn 46:22 so it'll work. There needs to be a Rembrandt for porn is true. Joanna Angel 46:26 They probably make good money if there was like a store in LA that just sold like a bunch of non trademarked everything that you could use for movie, you know, just like the black or after. Yeah, Yvette d'Entremont 46:37 it's not a Rothko or Pollock, but I smeared stuff on a painting and it looks exactly the fuck like it. Here Joanna Angel 46:42 you go. Yeah, Alice Vaughn 46:44 no, it's true. So business idea number 1057. I think this is paintings for porn stars. Yeah, well, just in general for movies. You know, filming. Yeah. Joanna Angel 46:56 Unless you're like a, you know, big production company and you can do that. real stuff. Alice Vaughn 47:00 And if you're a big production company who's somehow listening to the show, contact us. Unknown Speaker 47:06 Or somebody who just paints like paintings for use on set paintings to fuck in front of Joanna Angel 47:15 what we really need is just a very mediocre artists to contact us. Yvette d'Entremont 47:22 I'm just picturing now like a Karen at an Ikea like choosing one of those really bad mass produced prints going. Yeah, that's good for the bedroom. I could fuck in front of that. Yeah, Alice Vaughn 47:32 yeah, I could do anal in front of it. Joanna Angel 47:34 I mean, these are things that you have to think of when you're a producer. Alice Vaughn 47:39 I've never even considered that where you have to look at an art piece and think if it's gonna go well with your anal scene, or if it's allowed, or Joanna Angel 47:46 not allowed, I think I think it would look great if I was having anal sex in front of like a cool photo of Iggy Pop, but that's just not allowed. Alice Vaughn 47:57 We can't have any Jackson Pollock's in here. Joanna Angel 47:59 It's going to just be a plain white wall or maybe some modern art piece that Yvette d'Entremont 48:04 maybe if you are personally listening to this and you think it's okay to use your image in pornography contact us info to girls one Mike because we want people to bang with your image Joanna Angel 48:14 he deserves more than that Yvette d'Entremont 48:16 look I'm just saying we want to see Danny DeVito porn and we're being denied Alice Vaughn 48:21 statistical likelihood if you're a gay pups asst Joanna Angel 48:26 that's not gonna happen, guys. Yvette d'Entremont 48:28 No, look, weirder shit has happened on this show. I'm just saying. All right. Joanna Angel 48:33 What's exciting in your life? porn non porn. Yeah, I don't know. I've been directing. This year. It's been pretty exciting because I felt like I did the same thing in porn for a very, very long time. Being in my own company, and I've been able to branch out and do new things. Oh, look, I had this hair. I'll show it mbn magazine did like a very big story on me and put me on the air Alice Vaughn 48:58 was pretty amazing. screenshots of this and putting it to our Patreon because this is awesome and you Joanna Angel 49:05 killer in that thank you thank you very much wow vampire Alice Vaughn 49:12 I want to know where you got that one piece even how can we describe this one piece to our audience? Joanna Angel 49:17 You know plain black simple one piece Lacey. I think I got it on Amazon the place you are banned from Ha ha ha. Alice Vaughn 49:27 Well, they take a lot of my money. I'm a banker, but not from buying shit that's like every other day. Yvette d'Entremont 49:35 Oh, Amazon, Alice Vaughn 49:36 Jeff Bezos call me. I want my own $50 billion. And your Unknown Speaker 49:42 ex wife. He is looking for a new one. Sorry, dating. Yvette d'Entremont 49:47 My dog needs to announce that a leaf blue somewhere in the neighborhood. That's a problem. The leafs Joanna Angel 49:53 should have consulted with him first, Yvette d'Entremont 49:55 buddy. Thank you for alerting me. I don't know what I would have done without you. He's very cute. Very A tiny little thing. Oh, dear. I have I likewise had the foofy la dog. Yeah, Joanna Angel 50:06 yeah, good. Two little furballs Alice Vaughn 50:08 you know, I feel like I'm the only person whenever we're recording who doesn't have an animal at this point? this time next year, I want a dog. Unknown Speaker 50:16 Yeah. And a dog. You're going to be all grown up and you're going to have yourself to Joanna Angel 50:21 have one at this time next week, actually. Yeah. Yvette d'Entremont 50:25 Like, the way getting buddy was I was at this festival and the animal shelter was there like saying here are dogs and I was like, I think I want that dog and I went home and considered it and drove 50 miles the next day back to get that dog. So you can literally get a dog tomorrow. Alice Vaughn 50:43 However, I might be in a situation to get a clone. And this is going to sound really crazy, but let me explain. So what am i friends may or may not be conducting an interview for my friends company and in return This company. She comes from a science background. She used to work in labs. And she has this adorable like little black poodle called Mr. Gibbs. Which anyone who ever sees this toy poodle, they just want to keep him because he's a stuffed animal. But this company specializes in cloning animals. Of course, it's ridiculous. It's like an arm leg. It's like 50 grand to set up the clone. Yeah, I feel like I've heard about that before. I'm one of those like, the ridiculous things rich and famous people do or something. Yeah, like Barbra Streisand has like, 13 of them. Who knows? Right, right. Yeah. But there is a good chance that if you know she goes through the interview, she could get a clone of this little dog and I want to clone and also just to say I have a clone of something is just cool. And insane. So look, I know I'm definitely gonna get like a rescue dog. But I mean, if you can Yvette d'Entremont 51:54 get it for free, then it's Joanna Angel 51:56 free phone dog. Like don't pass that up. Yvette d'Entremont 51:58 Yeah. do that if it's free, but at the same time if you sit there and hold out for years, well, it's still not happening. Joanna Angel 52:05 Just go to the shelter and get a dog and then I hold out Unknown Speaker 52:08 shelters a backup, Yvette d'Entremont 52:10 there are adorable loving, sweet dogs that will lick your face until you are crying with happiness that are sitting at a shelter right now why and they're great for their mother. I'm saying this to everyone in the audience who's considering getting a dog get a dog that will make you so much happier. Both Joanna Angel 52:26 of my dogs are shelter dogs and seem like every dog owner, I sincerely believe that my dogs are cuter than anybody else's. Unknown Speaker 52:35 And you're right. Yvette d'Entremont 52:37 Here's my little foof Oh, he's cute, but useless. Yeah, no, my dogs aren't. He's a good lap dog. Why would you want Alice Vaughn 52:46 a smart dog? Exactly. I don't want I don't want a dog that can outsmart me. Yeah, exactly. I want a smart dog. I'm sorry, am I the only one. I Yvette d'Entremont 52:56 know last dog was smart, but she was kind of a sociopath. Joanna Angel 53:00 My dogs just understand sleeping and eating and snuggling. Very basic, basic things. Yvette d'Entremont 53:07 I wish buddy were a little smarter. Like, he has never once caught a treat that I've thrown for him. He is a broken little animal. Yeah, he's very sweet. He's a little creature of habit. He sleeps under the covers on my feet. And he's just he's so cute. But he is useless. And I'm aware of this. That's Joanna Angel 53:25 good. Yeah. Yvette d'Entremont 53:26 But it's like, I know what he is. He's a lover no Joanna Angel 53:29 matter Yeah, just sit on your lap and have have a good time. Yvette d'Entremont 53:33 That's what I got with him. Alice Vaughn 53:34 So obviously, a lot of our audience already knows you and where to find your stuff or burning Angel stuff. But for those who want to see more of you, where can our audience find you? Well just go to burning angel.com Joanna Angel 53:45 You can find me on Twitter. And you can find me on Instagram just at Joanna Angel. Both of my accounts are verified. And actually you can search me on Pornhub you can find my stuff there. Yvette d'Entremont 54:00 For saying is Joanna is Omniscient and Omnipresent, omnipotent Joanna Angel 54:05 it's very easy to find me there's no excuse Yvette d'Entremont 54:08 you Anna is the she is the goddess of the porn universe you can find her everywhere. Thank you she is all of us we get a Joanna Angel 54:15 boner. I'm there somewhere. Alice Vaughn 54:17 You heard it. You felt the Boehner I feel it. Everything felt Yvette d'Entremont 54:22 real. Yeah, she is the essence of it. Yeah. Alice Vaughn 54:27 Can you imagine if God could feel boners I hope God is a Boehner. He got his I mean, he. Joanna Angel 54:34 Big Boehner Yvette d'Entremont 54:36 get to heaven and just God is one giant hairy testicle sack. 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I'm at facebook.com slash cyber where you can find me serving up science and the heaping dose of dick jokes and snark Alice, Alice Vaughn 55:40 where can people find you? Oh, you can just find me at my respective Twitter at rational blonde. But, guys, we'll see you next week. Thanks for tuning in. Unknown Speaker 55:49 Bye bye. Bye. Alice Vaughn 55:54 Kelly Frasier, Sanyo, Claire, Kevin bounty, Steven Jones, Dalston, I'm Mike sorbetto Debbie rain right. Dionysus Eris night. Falco. Hi, Graham Smallwood, Richard Horrell, Teresa, Sal and many, many more Transcribed by https://otter.ai

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