Part 22 - Marty Kendall on Nutrient Density, Satiety, and Rethinking Diabesity

Part 22 - Marty Kendall on Nutrient Density, Satiety, and Rethinking Diabesity

Marty Kendall is an engineer, a speaker, and a writer. He's analyzed a bunch of data and built some cool, free technology. He's also brought a lot of people together who are working on cutting edge, practical information. He runs a group where some of the smartest people in nutrition are interacting daily, sharing information and studies and clinical experience. This includes Dr. Ted Naiman who was my first guest and who we bring up a few times in this episode. These are not anti-carb people, they aren't dogmatic, they don't let other interests or beliefs enter the picture. They're after information and truth and are working towards healing people and changing lives.

They're coming at this from all sides and from all over the world. Some are doing the research, some are just interpreting it and thinking about it from new angles. Ted is in the clinic daily, putting it into practice and reversing diabetes. Marty is building tools and thinking about it from his engineering perspective. I love people who think about it this way - I'm like a broken record, because I'm an engineer too. We need to stop thinking that only a doctor can be an expert on nutrition. Why would they be? They have extremely little or no nutrition specific training. They are brilliant when it comes to a million other things, but they aren't the end-all be-all of nutrition They can be though. But so can an engineer who dedicates years of their life to researching a topic. Not everyone who does this will be smart or correct, but some are. These are the people I get on the podcast. Ivor Cummins, Tucker Goodrich, Gabor Erdosi, Dave Feldman soon, and now Marty Kendall. There's many more as well, and I'll continue to find them.

Enough of my ranting - just a quick word on the Food Lies documentary. It's going really well and being pushed forward daily. I just booked our trip to Maryland to film with Dr. Bill Schindler. Go back to listen to that episode if you missed it. There's only about 11 days left on the Indiegogo.com crowdfunding page. Please go there to preorder the film. There's a link in the show notes in your podcast app and on peak-human.com. You also can search for Food Lies on Indiegogo or go to FoodLies.org to learn more. Now please take a listen to Marty and I talk about my favorite topic - nutrient density.

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Show Notes
  • Marty Kendall runs the great site http://optimisingnutrition.com and the facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1419823171384689/
  • Ted Naiman, Robb Wolf, Luis Villasenor, and Tyler Cartwright (ketogains) all collaborate with him to figure this nutrition stuff out
  • What is nutrient density?
  • Matt Lalonde's presentation at AHS 2012 https://youtu.be/HwbY12qZcF4
  • Cronometer is a great app to track food and nutrients https://cronometer.com
  • Nutrient dense foods are less insulinogenic, more satiating, and less energy dense
  • Try to quantify things because nutrition is confusing enough
  • I disagree with Joel Fuhrman's nutrient density scoring system
  • His version of nutrient density is variable and is based on what you personally aren't getting enough of
  • If you're getting enough micronutrients, you're very likely to be getting all the protein you need
  • Can't make a perfect diet because too many factors - season, cost, preference, etc.
  • Some of the most nutrient dense and satiating foods are leafy greens, fish eggs, seafood, liver
  • We've always sought after nutritious foods throughout history, with or without knowing it
  • He mentions my recent episode with Tucker Goodrich https://www.peak-human.com/home/tucker-goodrich-on-vegetable-oils-being-at-the-heart-of-modern-disease on seed oils and how unnatural and energy dense they are
  • Modern foods are engineered to trick us - they tastes delicious, but have no nutrition
  • The book The Dorito Effect chronicles this https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22609354-the-dorito-effect?from_search=true
  • It's a cliche for a reason - eat real foods
  • Trying to formulate a low insulin diet for his wife with type 1 diabetes that is also nutrient dense
  • What are the most nutrient dense foods?
  • Amazing benefits of seafood
  • Modern food is dog food - stuffed with cheap grains and vegetable oils with huge profit margins for big food manufacturers at the expense of the consumer's health
  • Satiety
  • Used 587,000 day worth of publicly available food data from MyFitnessPal to do some data crunching
  • Fed state, glucagon, and type 1 diabetes closed system insulin pump
  • How to eat less and manage hunger?
  • Holt satiety study in 1995 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15701207_A_Satiety_Index_of_common_foods
  • Carbs and fat together gives you the highest calorie intake
  • HIs in-depth article on satiety https://optimisingnutrition.com/2018/10/09/calculating-satiety/
  • They have an app that helps you only by satiating foods in the grocery store
  • Cian Foley has a book called Don't Eat for Winter https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34616334-don-t-eat-for-winter?from_search=true
  • Protein leverage hypothesis
  • Nutrient leverage hypothesis
  • Crops losing nutrition - USDA data shows nutrients going down as obesity goes up right at the point where Big Agriculture begins
  • Vitamin A, B12, and protein levels dropped as we avoided animal foods
  • We need mixed farming methods that include ruminants that put nutrients back in the soil
  • Graph of highest and lowest intakes of food and macro ratios https://twitter.com/tednaiman/status/977992445387448320
  • Thermic Effect of Food (TEF) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_dynamic_action
  • Unifying Theory of Nutrition
  • Potato hack diet https://visualimpactfitness.com/potato-hack-for-rapid-fat-loss/
  • Holt study from 1995 plain baked potato had the most perceived satiety
  • The potato hack and a juice fast may work temporarily but they are ill-advised
  • Best thing to do is eat a nutrient dense diet - my view is that if you can gradually adjust your lifestyle and preferences towards this you never worry about counting calories or being hungry
  • Marty notes the advantages of tracking and being mindful for many people
  • Building positive habits around healthy choices when shopping or eating
  • Watercress is at the top of his satiety and nutrient density data
  • I'm developing a practical version of nutrient density and satiety focused foods that people can look at and make meal choices from it
  • If we want to eat like (some) our ancestors (for some periods of history) and eat a carnivore diet, you need to actually eat like them by eating nose to tail
  • Ideas on how our ancestors eating whole foods diets had well-formed jaws, wide dental arches, and great dental health (along with amazing health in general)
  • His trip to Vanuatu and their amazing tasting, fresh food that they can't really afford (or maybe prefer) so they sell it and then buy oreos and vegetable oil
  • Dr. Gary Fettke has to go over there and amputate limbs due to the new epidemic of diabetes from these western foods
  • He personally witnessed the striking difference between the people eating the modern foods and the isolated people eating the native whole foods - the isolated people had amazing teeth, well-formed jaws, and perfect health, while the ones in the main city were having a ton of problems
  • Carbohydrate-insulin model of diabesity and the adipose centric model - see the graphic and the full article here https://optimisingnutrition.com/2018/05/03/ted-naimans-dam-fat-storage-insulinographic-explained/
  • Don't overeat energy
  • Can do ok on a bivalve plant based diet - still getting nutrient dense animal foods
  • Personal fat threshold
  • We can store a limited amount of protein and carbohydrate, but almost unlimited fat
  • Professor Roy Taylor study - normal weight individuals with type 2 diabetes https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25515001
  • Thin on the Outside, Fat on the Inside (TOFI) - how do they get like this?
  • One more description of the dam analogy (everyone should check out the full article linked above)
  • Bolus vs. basal insulin in type 1 diabetics - why a low carb diet is good
  • How to keep insulin in check in general - strength training, some HIIT
  • His Nutrient Optimizer app and Never Hungry Diet app - free tools to help you eat more nutrient dense foods, fill in gaps in micronutrients you are lacking, and shop for more satiating foods while in the store https://nutrientoptimiser.com
  • All of diet is so context specific, you can't recommend just one way of eating
  • He's off to Low Carb Down Under to do a presentation on Satiety
Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

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Part 209 - Ana Rosa, MD, PhD on The Hidden Fat That's Killing You

Part 209 - Ana Rosa, MD, PhD on The Hidden Fat That's Killing You

Ana Rosa, MD, PhD is a physician, Radiologist, Body fellowship trained, alumni of the University of Minnesota, medical doctor at the VA healthcare system, and assistant professor at the University of Minnesota. Dr. Rosa has done two radiology residencies, one in Brazil, and one in the United States, obtained a doctorate degree, had done a body imaging fellowship, and also has published in medical journals and helped writing Imaging books in Brazil with 25 years of practice in the Imaging field as a Radiologist. Dr. Rosa shares with us her imaging knowledge of visceral fat, the importance of its detection and description in the reports, guiding the patients and the ordering providers by the findings on cross-section imaging such as MRI scans. The podcast intention is to bring awareness on how to detect a simple and easy biomarker such as visceral fat on MRI scans making it easier for patients to advocate for health and follow up for results. Dr. Rosa shares with us how to create quality of care in service for education and interaction between patients, providers and Radiologists in sharing her own story on how to heal from inside out by literally "seeing" a "silent" metabolic active killer that visceral fat represents and taking action to change the presence status quo And move towards optimizing health. SHOW NOTES (06:37) In medical school, healthcare professionals are trained to describe diseases while overlooking how visceral fat and metabolic health contributes to them. (15:52) Visceral fat is a major culprit when it comes to various metabolic issues. (28:04) The first step to prevent disease is to look for signs of inflammation. (31:17) While it's possible to request your MRI scan from your doctor, most providers won't know how to make use of it. (44:02) Health is not limited to staying alive. Health is also appearance and performance. (53:58) For doctors, another benefit of learning to deal with patients carrying high amounts of visceral fat is potentially minimizing burnout.

22 Nov 20231h 2min

Part 208 - Mary Ruddick Debunks the Blue Zones and Explains Worldwide Health Decline

Part 208 - Mary Ruddick Debunks the Blue Zones and Explains Worldwide Health Decline

Mary Ruddick is an internationally acclaimed nutritionist currently based in Europe and Africa. She has personally trained professional nutritionists around the globe. Dubbed the "Sherlock Holmes of Health" for her unique ability to expeditiously assess and remediate rare neuromuscular conditions that others have deemed impossible, Mary Ruddick is a seasoned researcher, educator, medical nutritionist, entrepreneur, and philanthropist. Her writing has been published in medical journals and her own inspirational healing story can be found in several publications. http://enableyourhealing.com BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES (10:38) The Maasai people who live the most traditional lifestyles are living what us moderns would consider a "utopia". (22:32) The mental health crisis came as a result of being unhealthy in general. (28:12) When you eat organ meat, you take in a lot of serine. (34:34) Another practice within these indigenous cultures is that there is no trading of food, meaning everything eaten is native. Their food is also traditionally processed. (45:25) You don't need to completely remove plants from your diet, but gravitate towards those that you enjoy eating and have been properly prepared to minimize toxicity. (53:12) When optimizing your nutrition, don't focus on achieving balance. Focus on avoiding deficiencies. (1:08:42) There are different levels of nutritional knowledge. (1:21:17) The concept of "Blue Zones" as presented in the mainstream is largely misrepresented. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

1 Nov 20231h 34min

Part 207 - Veronica Max, APRN, FNP on Your Complete Health Makeover

Part 207 - Veronica Max, APRN, FNP on Your Complete Health Makeover

Veronica Max is a nurse practitioner and the CEO of UltraPersonal Healthcare. Bringing more than eleven years of family and functional medicine experience to the table, Veronica founded UltraPersonal Healthcare with the aim of creating a quality of care, service and experience that she found missing in the modern healthcare system. Just tell her Brian sent you! https://www.ultrapersonal.healthcare BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES (12:24) Find a healthcare practitioner that focuses on preventing disease rather than treating disease. (16:14) Terrain theory takes into account the human body and the health of the organism. (23:31) Exposure to the sun and the elements is vital to a healthy body with normal levels of sex and thyroid hormone. (36:40) A healthy diet involves meat, fish, and seasonal fruits and vegetables. (41:44) There's ancient wisdom in the fact that all the major religions incorporate fasting. (47:21) Hashimoto's is autoimmune hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid). (55:57) Calorie restriction is a form of stress. (1:02:02) Movement is important. But if you overlook food and light, you won't meet your goals. (1:08:30) It's no coincidence that the thyroid is in the throat. (1:11:29) There's no right or wrong place for a woman to have her baby. It's important to know your options. (1:14:32) When it comes to your child's immunization schedule, it's important to educate yourself and to listen to your intuition as a parent. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

25 Okt 20231h 19min

Part 206 - Chris Kruger on How to Lose Fat the Easy Way

Part 206 - Chris Kruger on How to Lose Fat the Easy Way

Chris Kruger is a fitness coach and a promoter of the high-testosterone lifestyle. At 40 years old, he has already dedicated two full decades to assisting men worldwide in achieving their peak potential – in appearance, well-being, and overall performance – all without the need for pills, powders, prescriptions, or PEDs/TRT. http://Instagram.com/krugerbody Just DM him you want to do the SAPIEN program ck@testosteronesuperchallenge.com BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES: (06:19) Natural hormone optimization applies to men just as much as it applies to women. (07:20) A calorie deficit for weight loss purposes is only effective in the short-term. (16:15) Instead of restricting yourself nutritionally while trying to improve or maintain performance, go for naturally optimizing your hormones. (26:55) Don't think "energy balance". Think "energy metabolism". (37:28) True health or fitness is about living like a human should to the fullest. (53:04) Testosterone can be produced from saturated fat. (1:01:52) Your health and fitness is a reflection of the relationship you have with yourself. (1:22:46) Outside of sleep, the biggest lever you can pull is getting enough protein. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

19 Okt 20231h 32min

Part 205 - Dave Feldman on The Amazing Study of Fit People w/ High LDL Cholesterol

Part 205 - Dave Feldman on The Amazing Study of Fit People w/ High LDL Cholesterol

Dave Feldman is an independent researcher and software engineer who has gained notoriety for his work on cholesterol and lipid metabolism, particularly in the context of low-carbohydrate and ketogenic diets. Coming from a background in software engineering, Feldman took a systems engineering approach to understanding cholesterol, creating what he calls the "lipid energy model." He has presented his findings at various medical conferences and is a frequent guest on health and wellness podcasts. Although not a credentialed medical professional, Feldman's citizen science has challenged traditional views on cholesterol, encouraging more nuanced discussions around its role in health. His work has captivated a large following of both laypeople and experts interested in the complexities of lipidology. http://CholesterolCode.com BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES: (4:18) A study on the Lipid Energy Model (LEM) (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35629964/) may explain why cholesterol increases in those who decide to consume fat for energy over carbs. (12:46) The status of your metabolic health influences how a particular diet affects your health, no matter the diet. (20:42) HDL at 50 or higher and triglycerides at 100 or lower are good benchmarks to strive for. (36:19) Multiple studies demonstrate that, if you take 100 random people in the same demographic with 0 risk factors, 60 male and 40 female, a little more than half of them would have 0 CAC. (44:07) Dave's ongoing companion study (follow updates at https://citizensciencefoundation.org/) running parallel to the main study features a control group with more relaxed criteria. (52:03) If we had more data on healthy populations, a clearer path towards a healthy way of life will be achieved (59:40) Visit (https://ownyourlabs.com/) which is both a blood testing service and a hub to participate in citizen science. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

4 Okt 202356min

Part 204 - Gabor Erdosi on The Root Cause of Diabetes, Disease, and Obesity

Part 204 - Gabor Erdosi on The Root Cause of Diabetes, Disease, and Obesity

Gabor is a food scientist with a master's in molecular biology. He lives in Hungary and is one of these engineers/scientists who I love talking to who look at nutrition differently. He has a very unique perspective because he worked for big food manufacturers. He spends almost all of his free time researching this stuff to help people understand how bad these processed foods actually are. He has a large community on Facebook where he shares and discusses this information. He also has some great presentations he's done you can find online. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES (12:29) To determine whether a study is biased, refer first to potential conflicts of interest. (14:56) Adipose tissue is a question of function over mass. (23:53) We are adaptive organisms. (31:04) Accelerated Appearance and Absorption (AAA) takes place when your small intestinal tract is filled too quickly with ultra-processed foods (refined carbs and/or added fats). (41:03) Processed proteins are nowhere near as unhealthy as processed carbs. (55:40) Overeating doesn't necessarily equal gaining weight, and vice versa. (58:36) Adipogenesis is the generation of more fat mainly through the addition of new fat cells. (1:09:19) In general, metabolic health is a good marker of future health outcomes. (1:17:58) A diet rich in refined carbohydrates and added fats leads to the production of endotoxins that are easily absorbed. (1:27:46) Visceral fat is a protective mechanism. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

27 Sep 20231h 28min

Part 203 - Dr. Joel Kahn Thinks You Should Go Vegan

Part 203 - Dr. Joel Kahn Thinks You Should Go Vegan

Dr. Joel Kahn is a cardiologist, integrative medicine practitioner and promoter of plant-based nutrition. Having practiced traditional cardiology since 1983, it was only after his own commitment to a plant based vegan diet that he truly began to delve into the realm of non-traditional diagnostic tools, prevention tactics and nutrition-based recovery protocols. These ideologies led him to change his approach and focus on being a holistic cardiologist. https://www.drjoelkahn.com/ GET THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES (16:52) According to Dr. Khan, if you suffer from heart disease, consider a plant-based diet based on science. (20:38) We start to develop atherosclerosis in our 20s and 30s. (31:00) We have more than enough data that a human can live through their reproductive years on a huge variety of diets. (47:08) To assess whether or not you're on the right path, assess your own cardiovascular status. (59:54) 30-40% of heart attacks, strokes, and early deaths are due to genetic factors, completely regardless of nutrition and lifestyle. (1:09:50) Examine whether or not your lifestyle is working for you. Don't just assume it is. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

20 Sep 20231h 13min

Part 202 - Stephan Guyenet, PhD on Why Do Humans Overeat?

Part 202 - Stephan Guyenet, PhD on Why Do Humans Overeat?

Stephan J. Guyenet, Ph.D. is an obesity researcher and health writer whose work ties together neuroscience, physiology, evolutionary biology, and nutrition to offer explanations and solutions for our global weight problem. He received a B.S. in biochemistry at the University of Virginia and a Ph.D. in neurobiology at the University of Washington. He is the author of the popular health website, Whole Health Source, and is a frequent speaker on topics of obesity, metabolism, and nutrition. https://www.stephanguyenet.com/about-stephan-guyenet/ BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES: (11:16) Our brains determine our food intake and regulate our energy expenditure, in a way that works best in our ancestral environment, but not in our modern environment. (24:33) We consume calories for many reasons, hunger being just one of them. Likewise, satiety is just one of many reasons we stop eating. (34:40) As a rule of thumb, eat a diet of omnivorous whole foods that are lower in calorie density. (49:56) Fiber is not an essential nutrient. (58:35) Nutrient-to-energy is important to health, but once you have adequate intake, there's not much benefit in taking in more. (1:04:46) Most people in the US are more susceptible to obesity than others. Whether or not they actually become obese comes down to the environment they choose. (1:15:31) Blood pressure, on a genetic level, doesn't typically change as one gets older. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

12 Sep 20231h 26min

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