Azure & DevOps Podcast

Joining the podcast once again is return guest, James Avery! James is the Founder and CEO of Kevel, previously known as Adzerk. Kevel is the next generation of publisher ad serving; offering the infrastructure APIs needed to quickly build custom ad platforms for sponsored listings, internal promotions, native ads, and more. It's built to be faster, easier to use, and more comprehensive than anything on the market today.   James originally started Kevel back in 2010, FTPing files up to an IaaS VM, and now he has a whole team and receives 3 billion requests per day! In this episode, he shares the story of Kevel, his unique take on how to structure a software engineering organization, how to align the dev organization with the architecture, and how to scale a custom index with a large number of ads.   Topics of Discussion: [:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes. [1:00] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups. [1:20] Clear Measure is hiring! Be sure to check out the link in the show notes. [1:30] About Jeffrey’s newest podcast, Architect Tips! [1:59] About today’s episode with return guest, James Avery! [2:30] Jeffrey welcomes James back on to the podcast. [2:42] James shares the story of his company, Kevel, and what they do. [5:21] Do they source the ads themselves at Kevel? What does the customer do on their own? [6:33] Micro-blogging (such as Twitter) killed long-form blogging. Does James think long-form blogging may make a comeback? [8:00] Jeffrey and James talk censorship. [10:35] Discussing different analogies for architecture. [13:17] James gives an overview of the technology stack that’s under the covers in Kevel. [14:42] In AWS, how does James reason around regions, disaster recovery, etc? [15:54] James touches on AWS’ past and current reliability. [17:29] How many running processes makes the whole system of Kevel work? [18:40] How many engineers are part of the Kevel team? [19:02] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure. [19:35] James shares his unique take and philosophy on how to structure a software engineering organization. [26:48] James shares what the approach has been to test at various levels. [29:59] James shares some key lessons they learned from working in a high-scalability environment. [31:39] Kevel has a massive amount of data and has tons of indexing. How much is in memory versus them utilizing storage providers? [35:29] Jeffrey thanks James for joining the podcast.   Mentioned in this Episode: Architect Tips — New video podcast! Azure DevOps Clear Measure (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow James Avery The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 51: “James Avery on Scaling to 3 Billion Requests Per Day” The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 124: “Charles Flatt on Learning as a Developer” INSPIRED: How to Create Tech Products Customers Love, by Marty Cagan   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

1 Feb 202136min

In this episode, your host Jeffrey Palermo is sharing his top list of the architectures you should be paying attention to in 2021 and beyond.   The software development world is changing at a faster rate every year. As we look back, there are architectures, infrastructure, and patterns that have often turned out to be nothing more than fads or distractions in hindsight — resulting in lost productivity, dead ends, and broken promises. To avoid this in 2021, Jeffrey is reviewing a survey of modern architectures that are sure to have staying power in 2021 and beyond.   Get ready to tune in and take some notes!   Topics of Discussion: [:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes. [1:00] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups. [1:25] Clear Measure is hiring! Be sure to check out the link in the show notes. [1:37] About Jeffrey’s newest podcast, Architect Tips! [1:57] About today’s episode. [2:39] The different levels of architecture patterns and why it is important to know them. [4:46] At the infrastructure level, this is the pattern to pay attention to: serverless architecture. [8:03] At the system level, this is one of three patterns you should be paying attention to: domain-driven design. [10:48] Also at the system level, you should pay attention to: microservices. [12:35] Discussing the two different major architectures that distributed architectures generally come down to: event-driven and web services. [16:27] Jumping down to the application level, Jeffrey begins highlighting the four must-know architecture patterns to be paying attention to, starting with: MVC and MVVM. [19:48] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure. [20:17] Next on the application level, Jeffrey highlights: onion architecture and layered architecture. [23:01] Next on the application level: CQRS vs. structured programming. [25:24] Last on the application level: onion DevOps architecture. [28:46] At the layer level, Jeffrey highlights several must-have patterns, starting with: the adapter pattern. [30:45] Next on the layer level: mediator and chain responsibility. [31:34] The overall family pattern that mediator and chain responsibility are a part of: hub-and-spoke. [34:10] Lastly on the layer level: observer. [36:21] For different design patterns you will want to know how to describe them and be able to create diagrams. Jeffrey recommends PlantUML for this. [37:56] At the code level, Jeffrey highlights: generic code patterns, functional programming style, and object-oriented logging. [38:38] Jeffrey closes out this week’s episode.   Mentioned in this Episode: Architect Tips — New video podcast! Azure DevOps Clear Measure (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software, by Erich Gamma, Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson, and John Vlissides Domain-Driven Design: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software, by Eric Evans DevOps Environment Poster PDF PlantUML   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

25 Jan 202139min

Charles Flatt is joining the podcast today! He has been a software developer since 1994 and has helped over a dozen organizations succeed on over fifty projects, both small and large. Charles has an unusual breadth of business and personal experience from foodservice and retail to music, business management, hardware installation, and of course, software development.   In this episode, Charles talks about his learning as a developer and some of his successes, big lessons, and key takeaways from the course of his career. He shares actionable advice for developers, teams, and organizations on how to improve; his favorite resources and books for further learning;  the metrics that matter the most; and what he sees as being the key components of what makes a DevOps organization successful.   Topics of Discussion: [:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes. [1:00] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups. [1:24] Clear Measure is hiring! Be sure to check out the link in the show notes. [1:34] About today’s guest, Charles Flatt! [1:57] Jeffrey welcomes Charles to the podcast. [2:34] Charles shares his career journey before software development and how he began his career in software. [6:49] Charles speaks about where he has worked and what he has been working on in the last decade. [11:48] Charles shares some of the big lessons and key takeaways from the course of working on over fifty projects in software development. [18:21] Charles and Jeffrey discuss their favorite books on DevOps and give their recommendations on what you should be reading as a developer today. [20:50] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure. [21:22] What Charles sees as needing to change within an organization in order to become more successful. [23:01] Charles gives some actionable advice on how to begin improving as a developer, as a team, and as an organization. [28:06] Charles and Jeffrey discuss the metrics that matter the most. [29:18] Jeffrey and Charles discuss the importance of continuous integration and what it really means to do continuous integration. [32:32] Charles recommends some go-to resources to check out after today’s podcast! [34:33] Jeffrey thanks Charles for joining the podcast!   Mentioned in this Episode: Azure DevOps Clear Measure (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow Charles Flatt’s LinkedIn Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 33: “Rockford Lhotka on Software Architecture” Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps: Building and Scaling High Performing Technology Organizations, by Nicole Forsgren PhD The Phoenix Project (A Novel About IT, DevOps, and Helping Your Business Win), by Gene Kim The DevOps Handbook: How to Create World-Class Agility, Reliability, and Security in Technology Organizations, by Gene Kim, Patrick Debois, John Willis, and Jez Humble Continuous Integration: Improving Software Quality and Reducing Risk, by Paul M. Duvall, Steve Matyas, and Andrew Glover Good Habits, Bad Habits: The Science of Making Positive Changes That Stick, by Wendy Wood Measure What Matters: How Google, Bono, and the Gates Foundation Rock the World with OKRs, by John Doerr   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

18 Jan 202135min

This week, Jeffrey is joined by Jérôme Laban, CTO of the open-source Uno Platform, and a 4x recipient of the Microsoft MVP award.   The Uno Platform is a framework that aims to improve the development cycle of cross-platform apps using Windows, iOS, Android, and WebAssembly using Mono and Xamarin. It is also Open Source (Apache 2.0) and available on GitHub.   In this conversation, Jérôme shares their DevOps success story and all of the thought that went into creating a complete DevOps environment for a platform that targets a multitude of computing environments. He also shares details of its creation, what developers should know about it, gives advice, and shares invaluable resources.   Topics of Discussion: [:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes. [1:02] About The Azure DevOps Podcast and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups. [1:10] Clear Measure is hiring! Be sure to check out the link in the show notes. [1:33] About today’s guest, Jérôme Laban! [1:49] Jeffrey welcomes Jérôme to the podcast. [1:58] About Jérôme’s career background and what has led him to become the CTO of the Uno Platform. [4:03] Regarding the Uno Platform, what should people be looking for now vs. what they should be looking for in the future for cross-platform and mobile development? [8:00] Jérôme walks listeners through the creation of the Uno Platform. [13:44] Jérôme elaborates on the design of the Uno Platform and the branching strategy that they put in place at the front-end. [15:08] The Uno Platform has enabled automated builds upon pull request creation. How many tests are they able to fit into that and what duration does that pull request build take on the feature branch? [16:28] Is there a short cycle build for smaller issues such as a spelling error? [17:41] Jérôme explains what happens in the environment after the pull request is accepted and merges into master. [20:25] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure. [20:56] Do you fully deploy to target platforms on the pull request build process? [22:08] Jérôme discusses Calculator.Platform.Uno. [24:11] Jérôme received the codebase for the calculator from the Windows team. Did he also receive the test cases for it as well? And did those port over? [25:28] With Uno, will WinForms applications and WPF desktop applications just be able to be “slid” into WebAssembly and URL launched? [27:09] With Uno, how many different types of test frameworks are there and what are they? [30:24] Is the state-of-the-art for web still Selenium? What about mobile? [31:05] Does the Xamarin UI test cover Android and iOS? [31:13] What would you use for UI testing for WebAssembly? [32:38] If people are interested in this cross-platform UI testing do they need to use Uno Platform? [33:33] For developers that are developing new applications now, what technologies and frameworks should they be investing in and which should they be letting go as we look ahead into the future? [36:13] Jeffrey thanks Jérôme for joining the podcast. [36:45] Where to get in touch with Jérôme and learn more about the Uno Platform.   Mentioned in this Episode: Azure DevOps Clear Measure (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow Uno Platform Uno Platform Discord Community @UnoPlatform on Twitter Jérôme Laban’s Twitter @jlaban Jérôme Laban’s Blog Blazor .NET 5.0 NuGet Xamarin Calculator.Platform.Uno Selenium GitVersion Mergify   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

11 Jan 202137min

In this episode, Jeffrey is excited to be joined by his guest, Sam Nasr! Sam is an IT Consultant and a Sr. Software Engineer with a deep focus on the Microsoft stack of technologies (.Net, SQL Server, Azure). In his role of 12+ years at NIS Technologies, Sam provides consulting services, training, and custom app development to help bring more value to business applications. He is also incredibly passionate about giving back to the community and speaks at many events, conferences, and user groups; writes articles; and is always keeping on top of new technologies. He also serves as a leader at the Cleveland C#/VB .NET user group.   Together, Jeffrey and Sam discuss the ins and outs of SQL Server for developers, highlight the current state-of-the-art practices, what it looks like in 2020 to build a SQL Server database, and the go-to resources you should be looking at.   Topics of Discussion: [:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes. [1:02] About The Azure DevOps Podcast and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups. [1:13] Clear Measure is hiring! Be sure to check out the link in the show notes. [1:39] About today’s guest, Sam Nasr! [2:13] Jeffrey welcomes Sam to the podcast. [2:19] Sam shares some career highlights and speaks about his current role. [3:46] Sam shares his philosophy on teaching and learning. [7:34] Sam’s mindset around SQL Server for developers and a brief history of it. [10:44] Sam elaborates on the ins and outs of building on SQL Server. [14:20] Can you do file tables through Entity Framework? [15:12] Sam explains another cool feature of SQL Server: temporal tables. [17:00] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure. [17:32] Are temporal tables suited for time-based analytical queries?  [19:42] What do you need to do to get the temporal features added on? [20:46] Sam speaks about one of his favorite conferences: SQLSaturday! [22:18] The current state-of-the-art practices that Sam is employing for building the database, testing the database, and deploying changes. [24:12] What does it mean in 2020 to build a SQL Server database? [26:34] There’s a lot of choices to make when it comes to databases. Sam shares his insights on these choices, the NoSQL movement, and what developers should be looking at and considering. [29:54] Jeffrey and Sam shares some final words on the benefits and ease-of-use of SQL Server. [32:17] Jeffrey thanks Sam for joining the podcast and Sam shares some go-to resources to check out after the show!   Mentioned in this Episode: Azure DevOps Clear Measure (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow Sam Nasr’s LinkedIn Sam Nasr’s GitHub NIS Technologies SQL Server T-SQL Entity Framework SQL Azure SQLSaturday Entity Framework Code-First MongoDB Azure Cosmos DB Meetup.com   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

4 Jan 202134min

This week, Kendra Havens is joining the podcast! Kendra is a Program Manager at Microsoft on the .NET and Visual Studio team. She is incredibly passionate about using technology to empower people and solve the world's problems whether it be technological, business, or people puzzles — and she always loves a good challenge! In her role at Microsoft, she focuses mainly on .NET Tooling and the testing experience in Visual Studio. You may recognize her from videos on Visual Studio, .NET Core, C#, and Testing tools; or, as a speaker at the recent .NET Conf 2020.   In this episode, Kendra and Jeffrey discuss Codespaces. If you haven’t heard the buzz about Codespaces yet, they provide a fully managed dev environment that you can deploy. They’re reproducible, re-deployable, manageable, and set up everything in your dev environment for you. Kendra equates them to a remote desktop… but better!   Kendra shares her insights and knowledge on Codespaces, what she and her team are currently working on with regards to it, shares some recent developments, and much more!   Topics of Discussion: [:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes. [1:02] About The Azure DevOps Podcast and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups. [1:16] Clear Measure is hiring! Be sure to check out the link in the show notes. [1:43] About today’s guest, Kendra Havens! [2:19] Jeffrey welcomes Kendra to the podcast. [2:26] Kendra speaks about her career path that has led her to her current role with Microsoft and what Codespaces is. [4:30] Is Codespaces 100% ready to go? How easy is it to set up? [6:57] Does it matter if the software is targeting the full operating system on the Windows side or if the developer doesn’t care and is just throwing it to Azure App Service? Is there a difference between the two when it comes to implementing Codespaces? [8:08] Is the best experience right now with what’s in development for .NET 5 container-destined applications? [8:48] What to do if you want to run a .NET 5.0 app. [9:03] Which application dependencies has Kendra seen as being the most common that are well-supported? [10:10] Would it be fair to say that if something can be set up with a command line that it probably works well at this point? [10:48] Having they been testing with SQL Server or is it implicitly supported with Codespaces? [11:57] Kendra speaks about the overall vision for Codespaces, what they’re working towards, and the kinds of conversations that they’re having within Microsoft around it. [15:29] Is Microsoft planning on hosting Codespaces or is there going to be a private capacity that is available if you want to equip your company with a certain amount of horsepower to connect to? [17:26] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure. [17:59] Kendra speaks about the potential of configuration in regards to servicing  [19:13] What Codespaces is working towards offering: being able to configure how much horsepower your codespace gets. [19:49] Some of the big benefits that will come from this offering. [20:26] What clients are they intending to support with Codespaces? [21:59] Kendra speaks about something she is currently really excited about: GitHub Actions. [22:39] Some of the recent developments with GitHub Actions. [24:14] The latest in testing in Visual Studio. [26:00] How does Kendra keep up with all of the new framework changes? What’s the strategy for testing the new frameworks? [29:51] Kendra shares some final words about what she and her team are working on and what she is excited about going forward. [32:28] Jeffrey thanks Kendra for joining the podcast!   Mentioned in this Episode: Azure DevOps Clear Measure (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow .NET Conf 2020 Kendra Havens’ Linkedin Kendra Havens’ Twitter Kendra Haven’s GitHub Codespaces JSON DevContainer.JSON .NET 5 Code Quality AnalyzersDocker VSCode .NET Core 3.1 .NET 5.0 SQL Server IOS RabbitMQ devinit devinit.JSON Azure Pipelines GitHub Universe 2020 GitHub Actions Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 95: “Chris Patterson on GitHub Actions” Blazor Playwright Test   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

28 Dec 202033min

In this episode, Jeffrey is joined by Maddy Leger, a Program Manager at Microsoft on the Xamarin team!   Maddy has been with the Xamarin team since 2018 working on Xamarin tooling. When she first joined Microsoft and worked with the Xamarin team as an intern, she realized the impact that she could have in creating amazing developer tools and frameworks, which inspired her to pursue a role as Program Manager. You can connect with her on Twitter and GitHub @maddyleger1!   In Jeffrey and Maddy’s conversation, they discuss Xamarin in a .NET 5 world. Maddy shares her vision for where Xamarin is headed and what she hopes will be the new normal for C# developers five years from now; what the state-of-the-art is now for Xamarin; what a Xamarin developer setup looks like in the .NET 5 world for mobile, Mac, and Windows; and what developers with existing Xamarin apps should they be paying attention to (or change) with .NET 5 coming out.   Topics of Discussion: [:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes. [1:07] About The Azure DevOps Podcast and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups. [1:20] Clear Measure is hiring! Be sure to check out the link in the show notes. [1:43] About today’s guest, Maddy Leger! [2:17] Jeffrey welcomes Maddy Leger to the podcast. [2:25] Maddy speaks about her career journey thus far and what led to her working on the Xamarin team at Microsoft. [5:20] Overtime, the story for developing on non-Windows computers has been fragmented. Maddy speaks about this and what the story looks like right now. [6:25] Maddy shares her vision for where Xamarin is headed and what she hopes will be the new normal for C# developers five years from now. [7:09] What the state-of-the-art is now for Xamarin. [9:30] If you just want things to work and just have an app to access some data, what level of share code is Xamarin currently? [10:50] Maddy speaks about what a Xamarin developer setup looks like in the .NET 5 world for mobile. [13:38] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure. [14:25] Maddy speaks on the Mac story as a Xamarin developer and when you need to have a Mac on the .NET 5 side. [18:06] For developers now, do they need a Mac of some type? Or does the iPhone suffice? [19:07] Azure DevOps has hosted Mac Agents. If you’re using that, do you need a local Mac? [20:35] In the .NET 5 world, what is state-of-the-art when it comes to the teams’ development, DevOps environment, building, testing, packaging, and deploying? What should they choose? And what pieces do they put together? [22:30] What are the libraries and tools for automated testing and testing locally? What does that look like these days? [24:15] What do deployments to a DevOps environment look like in the world of .NET 5 in Xamarin? [27:04] For developers with existing Xamarin apps that they’ve been managing, what should they be paying attention to or change with .NET 5 coming out? What would they miss out on if they don’t move to .NET 5? [29:01] Jeffrey thanks Maddy for joining the podcast!   Mentioned in this Episode: Azure DevOps Clear Measure (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow .NET Conf 2020 .NET Core .NET 5.0 Maddy Leger’s LinkedIn Maddy Leger’s Twitter @maddyleger1 Maddy Leger’s GitHub @maddyleger1 .NET Community Standup   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

21 Dec 202029min

Scott is the Director of Program Management for .NET at Microsoft. When Scott first joined Microsoft back in 2007, he was working on the ASP.NET team.   As the Director of Program Management of .NET, Scott and his team build .NET Core, .NET Framework, ASP.NET, Entity Framework, managed languages (C#/F#/VB), as well as the Web and .NET Tooling for Visual Studio.   In this episode, Jeffrey and Scott discuss the announcements that were made at the recent .NET Conf 2020, everything .NET 5.0, and general advice for .NET developers. Scott also touches on the Experimental Mobile Blazor Bindings project, isolated CSS, browser-based applications, the pre-render server feature in .NET 5.0, and much more.   Topics of Discussion: [:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes. [1:02] About The Azure DevOps Podcast and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups. [1:11] Clear Measure is hiring! Be sure to check out the link in the show notes. [1:34] About today’s guest, Scott Hunter! [1:51] Jeffrey welcomes Scott back to the podcast. [1:58] Jeffrey and Scott reflect on software and tech history, their job history, and the history of how they know each other. [7:21] Scott shares his predictions on the technology and software that developers should be investing in that were showcased at .NET Conf 2020. [15:08] The two tracks Microsoft seems to be going on and Scott’s thoughts on what the overall vision seems to be. [19:05] About the Experimental Mobile Blazor Bindings project. [21:58] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure. [22:31] From a labor pool perspective, there seems to be a mountain more of people who know how to lay out a screen and make something attractive using an HTML and CSS combination. Contracting with a designer who only needs to know HTML and CSS is becoming an increasingly affordable option. Is this part of Scott’s thought process? [25:15] Jeffrey and Scott touch on another cool announcement from .NET Conf 2020: isolated CSS. [26:30] Scott tells a fun story about the merits of being on a .NET team and working at Microsoft. [29:59] There’s one paradigm in browser-based applications that doesn’t exist in desktop or mobile applications: the back button. Scott shares his perspective on this and whether or not they’ll be supported in a first-class way. [32:17] Scott highlights another cool feature in .NET 5: the pre-render server. [33:49] Scott speaks about an amazing customer of theirs that they highlighted at the .NET Conf 2020 keynote. [38:09] Is .NET 5 the fastest real programming platform? What would Scott’s recommendations be to a team looking to move from .NET 4.8 to 5.0? [42:47] Jeffrey thanks Scott for joining the show!   Mentioned in this Episode: Azure DevOps Clear Measure (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow Scott Hunter Scott Hunter’s Twitter @coolcsh .NET 5 Azure DevOps Podcast: “Scott Hunter on DevOps Capabilities in Azure - Episode 24” Azure DevOps Podcast: “Microsoft Ignite 2019 Recap with Various Guests - Episode 65 Phil Haack NuGet Scott Guthrie ASP.NET Blazor .NET Conf 2020 .NET Core .NET 5.0 Xamarin Electron WebAssembly UnoConf 2020 Uno XAMLExperimental Mobile Blazor Bindings Flutter Project Comet WPF Angular Rust Python   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

14 Dec 202043min