
Ep 19: Practical advice on retaining staff and Saddleback Pastor Andy Wood on succession
Today we talk about the joy of Hot Chicken, when airplanes have flat tires, what subscription would you pay for no matter what, and how can we better treat our staff so that they might stay a little l...
6 Juni 20241h 6min

Ep 18 Demise of Red Lobster, Control v Relationship, & Succession w Dave Travis
Today we talk our go to for fancy food with the demise of Red Lobster, why pastors choose control over relationships, reminisce with Dave Travis about the legacy of Leadership Network and the future o...
30 Maj 20241h 11min

Ep 17: Tech tools for ministry, what pastors are struggling, and warning signs of burn out
Today we talk about why our brother Geoff was a no-show, our favorite tech tools, statistics on why pastor’s are struggling and talk to our friend Pastor Gary Mauro about how he burned himself out and...
23 Maj 20241h 11min

Ep 16: Special Guest Kadi Cole on how to build a diverse leadership culture
Today we talk about things we have to have when we travel, whether we would ride in a driverless car, and how far off were some of the predictions we made for the post-Covid church. We also spend some...
17 Maj 20241h 3min

Ep 15: Temper tantrums, shooting pets, and Philip Nation on the future of the SBC
This week we talk about the collapse of Geoff’s beloved Nuggets, Chris dodges a tornado during the podcast, and special guest Dr Philip Nation discusses the future of the SBC. This episode is sponsore...
9 Maj 20241h 6min

Episode 14: Tomatoes, playoffs, protests, and the best and worst books the brothers have written. (Special guest? Greg Surratt)
Today we talk about Greg’s tomato garden, why Chris thinks baseball in the spring is the best (he’s wrong), the college campus protests and why every pastor should write a book…or not. This episode is...
3 Maj 202456min

Episode 13: Tortured poets, NBA playoffs, and trends and to respond when a friend fails morally. (Guests: Todd Rhodes & Matt Steen)
Today we answer important questions like why is Taylor Swift tortured, who will win the NBA playoffs, and we ask our friends Todd Rhodes and Matt Steen what went wrong with the internet. This episode ...
25 Apr 20241h 14min

Episode 12: Sword swallower at a men’s conference, the relevancy of denominations, and more embarrassing stories about Geoff (Special Guest Sherry Surratt)
This week Geoff’s wife Sherry joins the brothers to share her impressions from the Masters, the right way to deal with a rogue guest at a conference, embarrassing stories about Geoff, and keys to effe...
18 Apr 20241h 4min



















