The Nugget Climbing Podcast

This full episode is available for Patrons right now! Steve Bechtel is back on the podcast for a deep dive into active recovery. We discuss what the research says about active vs. passive recovery, what methods work best, why it’s better than sitting on the couch on your rest days, and we also tackle the practical side of things and discuss realistic options for active recovery between burns at the crag, how to have active rest days without doing too much, what deload weeks should look like, and common pitfalls to avoid.Become a Patron to get access to the full episode! And support the podcast! *The full version is 1:30:02.*Watch the uncut video interview here!patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingSteve’s Other Episodes:EP 35: Steve Bechtel (Sept 14, 2020)Follow-Up: Steve Bechtel (Jan 21, 2021)Follow-Up #2: Steve Bechtel (Nov 11, 2021)

18 Maj 202334min

Scott Johnston is a world-class coach who specializes in mountain endurance sports. This episode is a masterclass in training principles and is packed full of nuggets for climbers, including boulderers. We talked about why it’s a mistake to mimic top athletes, tips for balancing climbing with other sports, capacity vs. utilization, why to back off after a personal best, developing layers of endurance, the flaw with HRV, how to test your recovery before training, how to fail successfully, the future of alpinism and mountain running, and much more!Check out The Nugget on YouTube:youtube.com/@thenuggetclimbingCheck out PhysiVantage!physivantage.com (link includes 15% off coupon)Use code "NUGGET15" at checkout for 15% off your next order!Check out Athletic Greens!athleticgreens.com/NUGGETUse this link to get a free year's supply of vitamin D + 5 travel packs!Check out Rumpl!rumpl.com/nuggetUse code "NUGGET" at checkout for 10% off your first order!Check out Rocky Talkie!RockyTalkie.com/NuggetUse this link to get 10% off your first order of backcountry radios!Check out Tindeq!tindeq.comUse code “NUGGET” for $10 off!I recommend the Progressor 150 for finger training and testing. We are supported by these amazing BIG GIVERS:Leo Franchi, Michael Roy, David Lahaie, Robert Freehill, Jeremiah Johnson, Scott Donahue, Eli Conlee, Skyler Maxwell, Craig Lee, Mark and Julie Calhoun, Yinan Liu, Renzollama, Zach Emery, and Brandt MickolasBecome a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/scott-johnstonNuggets:0:04:56 – Inventing telescopes, and refurbishing European sports cars0:11:25 – Being a cross-country ski racer, climbing with Steve House, and getting into coaching0:13:22 – Why Scott and Steve decided to write Training for the New Alpinism0:15:30 – Partnering with Kilian Journett on a second book Training for the Uphill Athlete0:19:00 – The mistake of trying to mimic people like Killian Journett or Adam Ondra0:23:05 – Sound bites, the dumbing down of our attention spans, and applying traditional training methods to unconventional sports0:25:09 – Who is the Uphill Athlete book for?0:27:56 – Being a general outdoor athlete and a climber0:28:54 – Patron question from Alex: Tips for training for bouldering and sport climbing during ski season and vice versa?0:34:42 – Why more training isn’t always better0:37:39 – Building capacity, and why you rarely perform well while you’re training0:39:19 – Block periodization0:42:09 – Monitoring your recovery, using a hangboard to check in, and the restorative effect of easy aerobic activity0:46:59 – Capacity vs. utilization training0:54:26 – Training vs. randomly exercising0:57:16 – Fundamental qualities of sports, and building capacity in different qualities1:03:32 – Putting money in the bank vs. spending it1:07:18 – Why you should back off after you hit a PR in your training1:12:24 – Deloads1:16:40 – Non-linear periodization1:18:54 – The aerobic system, and the vacuum cleaner analogy1:25:54 – Developing layers of endurance1:27:52 – How and why boulderers and sport climbers should train endurance1:31:56 – More about the layers of endurance1:38:25 – My upcoming Follow-Up with Steve Bechtel,  why training needs to be more specific at higher levels, and how recovery makes you stronger1:41:33 – How important is active recovery?1:44:32 – The flaw with HRV for measuring recovery1:50:20 – Tuning in to your body, and how to test your level of fatigue1:53:34 – Using the Tindeq to test your finger strength before training (use code NUGGET for $10 off)1:56:47 – Why monitoring your progress leads to mental toughness2:03:19 – How to get the experience you need to climb technical mountains and alpine routes2:06:25 – The Dreaded Water Carries, and improving muscular endurance2:19:29 – How long and how often should our training blocks be?2:22:20 – Losing two climbing partners on K22:27:33 – How to fail successfully2:34:09 – Inventing challenges, and the essential parts of being human2:38:02 – Scott’s current outdoor lifestyle, and trying to slow the decline as aging athletes2:42:26 – Doing max strength to recover from hard endurance work2:46:15 – A teaser for how to increase your weighted pull-ups2:50:29 – Where to find Scott2:52:33 – What excites Scott the most about the future of alpinism and mountain running2:56:40 – Understanding training principles, and the key takeaway from this episode

15 Maj 20233h 5min

Don McGrath is the author of Vertical Mind and an expert on mental training for climbing. We talked about the two simple diet changes he made to get back in shape in his 60s, our untapped potential in mental training, debunking and rewriting unhelpful scripts, how to tackle fear of falling and fear of failure, pre-climb rituals, how to use your climbing partner as a coach, how to stay in love with climbing as we age, duct tape and baling wire, embracing the suck, and much more!Check out The Nugget on YouTube:youtube.com/@thenuggetclimbingCheck out Crimpd!crimpd.comOr download the Crimpd app!Check out Rhino Skin Solutions!rhinoskinsolutions.comUse code “NUGGET” at checkout for 20% off your next order!And check out EP 22 with Justin Brown to learn more about how to use Rhino products!Check out Rumpl!rumpl.com/nuggetUse code "NUGGET" at checkout for 10% off your first order! We are supported by these amazing BIG GIVERS:Leo Franchi, Michael Roy, David Lahaie, Robert Freehill, Jeremiah Johnson, Scott Donahue, Eli Conlee, Skyler Maxwell, Craig Lee, Mark and Julie Calhoun, Yinan Liu, Renzollama, Zach Emery, and Brandt MickolasBecome a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/don-mcgrathNuggets:0:03:56 – The love/hate relationship to climbing in Rifle and Smith Rock0:07:49 – Living in Colorado Springs, spending the winter in the gym, and working with a coach0:08:52 – The two simple diet changes Don made to lose his “60-year-old belly”0:10:56 – Increasing his climbing volume, getting on harder routes in the gym, and the accountability of a coach0:12:31 – Whiskey time, habits, and alcohol substitutes0:16:16 – Turning 60, being retired, and setting the goal of climbing 5.12+/13- (7c/+) again after a decade0:18:07 – Don’s coach Kevin Branford0:20:40 – Don’s introduction to climbing, and how he became interested in writing and mental training0:27:27 – Shame Theory, and Fear of Failure0:30:43 – How the mental aspect of training is overlooked, and diving into movement, emotions, and thoughts0:34:03 – How to tackle fear of falling, scripts, working on one thing at a time, and the arsenal of uneventful falls0:39:16 – The story of the woman in The Gunks, and understanding irrational fear0:42:29 – Debunking scripts0:45:40 – The script that was holding Don back when he was one-hanging routes in Rifle0:47:49 – Don’s mantra, and “one move at a time”0:52:20 – Pre-climb ritual0:56:38 – Don’s first breakthrough with his mental game0:58:11 – Most common unproductive scripts1:04:23 – The best piece of onsighting advice I’ve gotten1:05:25 – Opening and closing your focus1:08:53 – What musical instruments and karate have to do with climbing1:10:30 – Warmups as a big missed opportunity1:13:56 – Cocreative coaching with your climbing partner1:17:43 – Shoulds elicit a shame response1:21:02 – Recommendations for couples who are also climbing partners1:23:25 – The area of mental game that I’ve been focused on, more about scripts, and breaking into new grades1:29:32 – Patron question from Gromstoph: Do you have any strategies for getting comfortable on a route more quickly?1:33:05 – “Just go find out.”1:37:29 – Patron question from Caden: Are there any ways to practice commitment with new moves when doing new climbs?1:40:37 – Main takeaway about mental training1:41:24 – How to love your sport as you age, play, and innovate1:46:24 – Why climbing is unique1:48:06 – Duct tape and baling wire1:49:40 – Don’s advice for those of us in our 20s and 30s1:51:52 – Socio-behavioral changes, and employing winning tactics1:54:28 – Don’s book The Climb1:56:38 – What’s the next book?1:57:15 – Don’s writing practice, and how a book develops a life of its own1:59:01 – Advice from Les Brown: “Every point should have a story, and every story should have a point.”2:00:41 – Have fun, enjoy the process, and embrace the suck2:03:30 – Getting inspiration from watching kids2:04:53 – Inspiration from good coaches, and the book Running With the Buffalo2:06:25 – What’s next?2:07:23 – Wrap up, and how to connect with Don

8 Maj 20232h 11min

Have you listened to Climbing Gold?! The new season is here! Check out the first episode of the new season, and subscribe to Climbing Gold on your favorite podcast app for more great climbing stories. Enjoy :)In the 1970’s, no flame burned brighter than Hot Henry Barber. Often heralded as the first traveling climber, Henry redefined standards for free climbing and free soloing not just the US, but every country he visited. Along the way, he shattered egos before learning to check his own.Check out Climbing Gold!climbinggold.comInstagramListen on Apple PodcastsListen on Spotify

4 Maj 202342min

Alex Honnold is on the podcast! Who? The guy that free handed Yellowstone? Close enough.  Seriously though, this was such a great interview. We talked about his two most epic solos that nobody heard about, near misses, lessons from other climbing legends like Tommy Caldwell, Jonathan Siegrist, and Peter Croft, pooping while free soloing stories, how the film Free Solo exceeded his hopes and dreams, the commitment to excellence, and much more!The Nugget is on YouTube!youtube.com/@thenuggetclimbingCheck out Chalk Cartel!chalkcartel.comUse code "NUGGET" at checkout for 20% off your next order!Check out Athletic Greens!athleticgreens.com/NUGGETUse this link to get a free year's supply of vitamin D + 5 travel packs!Check out Rocky Talkie!RockyTalkie.com/NuggetUse this link to get 10% off your first order of backcountry radios!Check out Rumpl!rumpl.com/nuggetUse code "NUGGET" at checkout for 10% off your first order!Check out PhysiVantage!physivantage.com (link includes 15% off coupon)Use code "NUGGET15" at checkout for 15% off your next order!We are supported by these amazing BIG GIVERS:Leo Franchi, Michael Roy, David Lahaie, Robert Freehill, Jeremiah Johnson, Scott Donahue, Eli Conlee, Skyler Maxwell, Craig Lee, Mark and Julie Calhoun, Yinan Liu, Renzollama, Zach Emery, and Brandt MickolasBecome a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/alex-honnoldNuggets:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:04:21) – Interviews and TED Talks(00:07:25) – Finding new terrain for this interview(00:08:05) – Epic solo linkup in Zion(00:11:16) – Soloing ‘Moonlight Buttress’… again(00:12:08) – Why do these big solo linkups?(00:12:56) – Epic solo linkup in Red Rock(00:14:54) – Foot pain on big walls and vitamin I(00:17:41) – Onsight free soloing ‘Shune’s Buttress’ and ‘Resolution Arete’(00:20:34) – The hardest thing Alex has downclimbed(00:21:29) – Solos that fly under the radar(00:22:47) – Free soloing ‘Sendero Luminoso’ in Mexico(00:25:17) – The limits of free soloing(00:28:31) – Quantum leaps(00:30:16) – Yosemite soloing, and Alex vs. top sport climbers(00:32:22) – Chris Sharma's FA of ‘Necessary Evil’ 5.14c (8c+), and the role of talent(00:35:40) – Will Alex climb 5.15a (9a+)?(00:38:33) – Dad strength(00:39:46) – Vegas gyms and homewall dreams(00:49:34) – Near misses(00:55:34) – Soloing ‘Fiesta De Los Biceps’ in Riglos Spain(00:57:46) – Competing with Ethan Pringle, soloing ‘Shune’s Butress’ in the snow, and the tree story(01:03:16) – Soloing ‘Monkey Finger’, Big Horn tracks, and spirit animals(01:04:22) – The physiological limits of ‘The Nose’ speed record(01:08:06) – Breaking ‘The Nose’ speed record(01:10:47) – Biggest lessons from Tommy Caldwell, Jonathan Siegrist, and Peter Croft(01:14:26) – Inspiration, and soloing with Shawn Raboutou(01:18:15) – Following the climbing news(01:19:01) – Who Alex is most impressed by, and interviewing the Mellow crew (Daniel Woods, Shawn Raboutou, Jimmy Webb, and Giuliano Cameroni)(01:20:35) – New season of Climbing Gold(01:22:13) – Favorite interviews on Climbing Gold(01:23:28) – Corporate speaking and interviewing Stone Masters(01:26:24) – Climbing Gold uncut interviews(01:28:37) – Pooping while free soloing stories(01:34:56) – Shit-puting, and pooping while soloing El Cap(01:36:29) – Filming Free Solo and the Warrior Spirit(01:38:54) – The commitment to excellence(01:41:05) – Plans for the PNW(01:43:57) – “More intention never hurt.”(01:44:47) – “The guy that free-handed Yellowstone?”

1 Maj 20231h 45min

Will Bosi is a 24-year-old climber from Scotland who has emerged as one of the best climbers in the world. This interview is hot off the press! Will made the second ascent of ‘Burden of Dreams’ V17 less than two weeks ago and joins us for a proper geek out about the send. We talked about his process of projecting the replica and the actual boulder, his feats of finger strength and where to draw the line between party tricks and useful strength, doing the second ascent of ‘Mutation’ at Raven Tor, his absolute dream project, and much more!Check out The Nugget on YouTube:youtube.com/@thenuggetclimbingThe Nugget is brought to you by BetterHelp!betterhelp.com/NUGGETUse this link for 10% off your first month!Check out Crimpd!crimpd.comOr download the Crimpd app!Check out Rhino Skin Solutions!rhinoskinsolutions.comUse code “NUGGET” at checkout for 20% off your next order!And check out EP 22 with Justin Brown to learn more about how to use Rhino products!Check out Green Chef!greenchef.com/nugget60Use code "NUGGE60" at checkout for 60% off plus free shipping!Check out Rumpl!rumpl.com/nuggetUse code "NUGGET" at checkout for 10% off your first order! We are supported by these amazing BIG GIVERS:Leo Franchi, Michael Roy, David Lahaie, Robert Freehill, Jeremiah Johnson, Scott Donahue, Eli Conlee, Skyler Maxwell, Craig Lee, Mark and Julie Calhoun, Yinan Liu, Renzollama, Zach Emery, and Brandt MickolasBecome a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/will-bosiNuggets:(00:00:00) – Intro(00:05:18) – The emotions we experience after a big send, and looking for new projects in Scotland(00:07:56) – How sending Burden of Dreams has changed his self-perception, and the style of hard project that Will is searching for(00:10:53) – Being from Scotland and currently based in Sheffield(00:12:17) – Following Will’s journey trying the replica with Aidan and Stefano, live streams from Finland, and taking seven years for Burden to get repeated(00:15:38) – Mutation continuing to go unrepeated again after Will did it(00:17:23) – Is Will the first person to have climbed V17 and 5.15c? (9A boulder and 9b+ sport)(00:20:07) – Will’s first time trying the Burden replica in Aidan’s shed(00:23:32) – Will’s thoughts on Shawn’s progress on Burden(00:25:10) – The warmup game on Burden, and the last move(00:30:16) – Will’s standard training session, and what his process looked like training on the Bruden replica(00:33:45) – Doing the first move 5 times in a session, and feeling stronger every session(00:36:26) – How similar the replica is to the actual boulder, and what surprised Will the most when he tried Burden(00:41:12) – How Will’s beta compared to Nalle’s, and the heal hook beta(00:46:17) – What a full session looked like on the replica,  and how that compared to a session on the actual boulder(00:51:28) – His skin when he sent the boulder, feeling strongest on his first try of the day, and the send(00:54:48) – How long a pair of shoes lasts on the boulder(00:57:33) – Will’s shoe selection for Burden, and struggling with the second move(00:58:53) – The pulley setup on the replica, comparing it to Katie Lamb’s experience on Spectre, and the usefulness of power spots(01:08:50) – Will replicas change the way we think about flashing boulders?(01:12:03) – The future of replica training, and the Alphane replica in Aidan’s shed(01:15:35) – Will’s thoughts on the grades of Burden, Alphane, and his FA Honey Badger(01:26:27) – Will’s feats of finger strength on the hangboard(01:30:57) – Where is the line between party tricks vs. functional finger strength?(01:34:21) – A breakdown of Mutation 9a+/b(01:38:24) – Bigger edge training vs. micros(01:40:52) – How often throughout the year Will does his go-to style of training session, and building volume vs. intensity(01:46:28) – Will’s absolute dream in climbing, and his experience on Excalibur 5.15c (9b+)(01:49:10) – Breakdown of the moves on Excalibur(01:52:21) – What’s next for Will, and potential plans for the summer(01:53:59) – Will’s thoughts on endurance training, and his story of sending Estado Critico 9a(01:55:13) – Being more thoughtful about your climbing(01:57:17) – Feeling excited to relax and chill, and plans to release a film of Burden(01:58:22) – Subscribe to Will’s YouTube channel for send footage!

24 Apr 20232h 4min

This full episode is available for Patrons right now! This is a teaser of a follow-up with Katie Lamb. We talked about her recent send of Spectre V14 in Bishop CA, breaking down crux moves into multiple pieces, how she trains on a spray wall, her top 5 go-to lifts in the weight room, projecting tricks, dopamine snacks vs. substance, what she learned from Spectre, having the travel bug, goals for 2023, and more!Become a Patron to get access to the full episode! And support the podcast! *The full version is 1:12:49.*Watch the uncut video interview here!patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingKatie’s Original Episode:EP 145: Katie Lamb

20 Apr 202330min

Charlie Schreiber is a world-class climbing coach who has helped day 1 athletes become National Champions, 5.14d sport climbers, and V15 boulderers. We talked about the value of asking “why”, giving kids hard work and then reward, finding fresh lemons to squeeze, puzzle books and getting inside the mind of the puzzle maker, our shared goal to climb V13, how to have a good poop in the morning (every time), and much more!Check out Athletic Greens!athleticgreens.com/NUGGETUse this link to get a free year's supply of vitamin D + 5 travel packs!Check out Rocky Talkie!RockyTalkie.com/NuggetUse this link to get 10% off your first order of backcountry radios!Check out Rumpl!rumpl.com/nuggetUse code "NUGGET" at checkout for 10% off your first order! We are supported by these amazing BIG GIVERS:Leo Franchi, Michael Roy, David Lahaie, Robert Freehill, Jeremiah Johnson, Scott Donahue, Eli Conlee, Skyler Maxwell, Craig Lee, Mark and Julie Calhoun, Yinan Liu, Renzollama, and Zach EmeryBecome a Patron:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbingShow Notes:  thenuggetclimbing.com/episodes/charlie-schreiberNuggets:0:03:19 – My painting of Monkey Face at Smith Rock, and hominess0:04:34 – Charlie’s apartment, and making and collecting art0:08:08 – What Charlie thought I looked like from listening to the podcast0:10:48 – How Charlie got into coaching, routesetters as choreographers, and building a successful climbing team from scratch0:16:49 – Austin Hoyt and Adam Shahar, Charlie’s own competition background, and being obsessed with coaching and giving back to the kids0:18:37 – Where Charlie got his coaching ideas, and the emphasis on humor, games, and play0:22:37 – “The only reason anyone’s going to give effort to something is if they believe in it.”0:24:38 – Hard work, and then reward (e.g. capture the flag)0:26:38 – Motivating adult clients, and working with one of his clients to get better at slab0:30:15 – The school system, and understanding why you are doing things0:32:26 – Slab climbing fundamentals0:35:38 – Spending time on fundamental skills, the learning zone, and perfect repeats0:40:26 – Adding structure to the warmup, and adherence as #10:43:39 – Customizing training for each individual, and finding all of the lemons to squeeze0:47:31 – How routesetting helped Charlie’s climbing, and asking “why”0:50:53 – How asking “why” applies to outdoor climbs0:53:53 – Making up your own climbs in the gym, puzzle books, and getting inside the mind of the puzzle maker1:03:15 – The forced move drill1:05:35 – Charlie’s goal to climb V13, and the path to get there1:12:10 – My Follow-Up with Emil Abrahamsson, my experience with fueling my training better, and momentum1:14:37 – More about Charlie’s approach to climbing V13, and finger training with large hands1:17:13 – My goal for Rocklands, how Charlie approaches a trip, and the value of getting on really hard climbs1:23:34 What Charlie is working on improving to climb V13, and my plans to project a V12 and V13 in Rocky Mountain this Fall1:29:23 – “Never, ever, ever give up.” - Winston Churchill1:33:58 – Charlie’s honeymoon1:35:36 – Using your spouse/partner as an accountability tool1:39:44 – Valuing climbing for the experiences rather than self-worth1:44:11 – How to have a good poop in the morning, every time1:49:11 – My paleo autoimmune diet experiment, and having full meals at the crag1:51:40 – My bicep tendon injury1:52:45 – Charlie’s experiment with an alkaline diet1:55:39 – How Charlie blew up on Instagram2:03:05 – Being awarded the “Dyno King” by Chris Sharma, and drawing inspiration from Tyson Schoene2:05:37 – Setting the record straight with Austin Hoyt2:09:58 – Plugs and wrap up

17 Apr 20232h 18min