Episode 1294: Pat Barrett, Vince Gilligan and the March Madness Mascot Bracket

Episode 1294: Pat Barrett, Vince Gilligan and the March Madness Mascot Bracket

Worship leader Pat Barrett — known for "Good Good Father" and "Build My Life" — joins Cameron, Jesse and Emily to talk about his new live album 'Break Open,' why he sat on the title track for nearly a decade, and his late-in-life obsession with surfing (including an upcoming trip to Kelly Slater's Surf Ranch). He also gets honest about how his thinking on songwriting vs. worship leading has shifted, because of course we ask awkward questions.

Also, Emily brings RELEVANT Buzz fresh from South by Southwest, where she sat in on a panel with Vince Gilligan — creator of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul — who said he thinks he owes the world something better than anti-heroes. Plus: High Point University's Cinderella March Madness run, and the faith story behind Chase Johnston's #99 jersey that everyone's been talking about.

And to close it out — Pat helps the crew run the Sweet 16 mascots through a no-stats, vibes-only bracket challenge to crown the real national champion. Based solely on mascots, not teams. One with a mustache may or may not have won.

Highlights:

  • 0:00 – Why last week's episode was late
  • 2:30 – Starlink satellites
  • 9:30 – Driving gloves
  • 17:50 – RELEVANT Buzz: High Point University's Chase Johnston's #99 story
  • 27:00 – Emily's South by Southwest panel with Vince Gilligan
  • 31:45 – The Lost arc, the Sawyer problem, and what Vince Gilligan owes culture
  • 36:00 – Pat Barrett joins the show
  • 38:30 – Recording 'Break Open' live in a sweaty tent
  • 40:40 – Why the title song sat unreleased for nearly 10 years
  • 42:50 – Songwriting vs. worship leading — what's actually better?
  • 45:20 – Pat's surfing obsession
  • 48:15 – The March Madness Mascot Bracket Challenge


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Episode 1287: Trip Lee's Worship Pivot, Jelly Roll's Grammy Sermon & Free Iguanas in Miami

Episode 1287: Trip Lee's Worship Pivot, Jelly Roll's Grammy Sermon & Free Iguanas in Miami

This week, legendary Christian rapper Trip Lee tells us about his unexpected move into worship music with his new album. Before that, the crew swaps stories from last week's historic winter storm—Emil...

3 Helmi 53min

Episode 1286: Chris Pratt on Faith, Fame and Finding Purpose Beyond Hollywood

Episode 1286: Chris Pratt on Faith, Fame and Finding Purpose Beyond Hollywood

This week, we talk to ‘Mercy’ star Chris Pratt about how faith shapes his life and career. He opens up about navigating public narratives, using his platform with purpose and why he believes being ope...

27 Tammi 52min

Episode 1285: Chelsea Smith on Dating, Marriage and What Actually Makes Love Last

Episode 1285: Chelsea Smith on Dating, Marriage and What Actually Makes Love Last

This week, we sit down with Chelsea Smith to talk about dating wisely, building a resilient marriage and navigating seasons when love feels harder than usual. She shares practical advice for singles, ...

20 Tammi 50min

Episode 1284: Khloé Kardashian Talks Faith, A ‘Stranger Things’ Star Does Too, and Philip Yancey’s Scandal

Episode 1284: Khloé Kardashian Talks Faith, A ‘Stranger Things’ Star Does Too, and Philip Yancey’s Scandal

In this episode of The RELEVANT Podcast, we break down a surprisingly faith-heavy week in pop culture.In RELEVANT Buzz, Khloé Kardashian opens up in depth about her faith and prayer life, Stranger Thi...

13 Tammi 54min

Episode 1283: The Top Young Adult Faith Questions, Weird Guinness Records & CITIZENS Frontman Zach Bolen

Episode 1283: The Top Young Adult Faith Questions, Weird Guinness Records & CITIZENS Frontman Zach Bolen

This week, we tackle the biggest faith questions young adults are asking right now (according to the recent Passion Conference) — from evidence for God’s existence and the tension between free will an...

6 Tammi 1h 2min

Episode 1282: Our New Year Episode — Bieber’s Faith, Jesse’s Patriot Games and Very Accurate 2026 Predictions!

Episode 1282: Our New Year Episode — Bieber’s Faith, Jesse’s Patriot Games and Very Accurate 2026 Predictions!

We wrap up 2025 and kick off 2026 by catching up on everything from post-holiday chaos to the optimism that comes with starting a new year. Along the way, we touch on Justin Bieber’s recent reflection...

30 Joulu 202552min

Episode 1281: Our Christmas Episode! Why Does December Feel So Unhinged?

Episode 1281: Our Christmas Episode! Why Does December Feel So Unhinged?

In our Christmas episode, Cameron Strang, Jesse Carey, Derek Minor and Emily Brown dive into a packed RELEVANT Buzz, including NFL players putting faith into action in unexpected ways, a Christian ani...

23 Joulu 202552min

Impact Conversations: TreVeyon Henderson on Faith & the NFL and Lecrae on Reconstruction & Legacy

Impact Conversations: TreVeyon Henderson on Faith & the NFL and Lecrae on Reconstruction & Legacy

In the final episode of the RELEVANT Podcast Impact Conversations series, we sit down with two influential voices using their platforms to point toward something deeper.First, New England Patriots roo...

18 Joulu 202547min

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