What Grief Really Needs | Loss, Love & Living After Death

In this deeply moving conversation, host Malisa Hepner sits down with grief advocate Kirsten O'Connor of thisisgrief.nz to explore what happens after unimaginable loss. Following the death of her daughter Kahlia, Kirsten shares the lessons grief has taught her about love, presence, and what genuine support really looks like.

Together, they discuss why our culture struggles with grief, how acknowledging death can deepen our connection to life, and why sharing our stories is one of the most powerful paths toward healing. Whether you're grieving yourself or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers compassion, understanding, and hope without minimizing the reality of loss.

Grief isn't a problem to solve—it is love that continues after loss. Healing begins when we stop trying to fix grief and start making space for it.

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