Part 34 - Dave Feldman on a New Way to Look at Cholesterol, Increasing Health Markers with Fat, and Lowering LDL with a Bad Diet

Part 34 - Dave Feldman on a New Way to Look at Cholesterol, Increasing Health Markers with Fat, and Lowering LDL with a Bad Diet

Dave Feldman is a senior software engineer, lipid and cholesterol investigator, and self-experimenter. He's done a ton of tests on himself over the past 4 years that are making huge waves in the nutrition world. He's helping the world rethink cholesterol and go away from the standard lipid hypothesis to the energy model of how our lipid system works. He's got a great facebook group with an active audience of Lean Mass Hyper Responders. He also travels around the country speaking at conferences

This is a must-listen if you have high LDL cholesterol on a high fat diet or still think that cholesterol is bad. You should also go back and listen to the Ivor Cummins episode in season 1 which gives more of a foundation of knowledge and a bunch of other great info on the topic.

We jump straight in and get technical in the beginning, but stick around. We backtrack and give a lot more context and explain things more clearly. You'll want to keep going even if we get into the weeds because we come out again and go over a lot of useful information and ideas.

This might be the last time you hear from me before the Food Lies Indiegogo campaign ends. This is the last chance to preorder the film and support us. The crowdfunding ends Monday, April 1st at midnight. We have a ways to go, but if we get support in these last few days I think we'll hit our goal. We're still looking for private investors who want to get equity in the film by contributing $15k or more. Please reach out or pass this along if this is a possibility.

Thanks so much, I'm really in love with this community. You've all been so supportive and it looks like we're going to be able to make a super high quality film to get this information out to the world without any outside interests or producers stepping in and influencing the message. Click through the link in the show notes or from FoodLies.org. Now let's hear from the great Dave Feldman.

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Show Notes

  • We jump straight into his carnivore experiment
  • He unexpectedly had very high triglycerides after a short time eating only beef products
  • How much things like fasting affect lipid tests
  • New blood test protocol doesn't even ask you to fast even though if you're eating a low carb diet and eat a fatty meal before your blood test you're loading your body temporarily full of triglycerides that will throw off the test
  • We back up a bit and start from the begining with his story of how he got into this cholesterol world
  • Cholesterol is like a distributed systems network
  • The less fat he ate (on a keto ratio) the higher his cholesterol would go. So to lower his cholesterol he would just have to eat more fat before his test
  • This is disrupting the whole standard medical community in 2 ways - they don't think it can change that much over the course of a few days, and it's also the opposite of what they say - they believe more fat should be bad
  • What is the lipid hypothesis?
  • There's no study that really confirms this hypothesis
  • He thinks LDL particles have 2 purposes - first to deliver energy, then to patrol
  • The energy delivery might only be an hour, but they can "patrol" for 2-4 days
  • There's other purposes we haven't even studied much like immune response
  • They can bind to pathogens or can provide alpha tocopherol to reactive oxygen species to turn them into non-reactive products
  • Ambulances, accidents, and aliens
  • All cause mortality and lower LDL does NOT correlate as the standard narrative suggests it should
  • People go on low carb or keto diets and every single thing in their life and lipid panel improves except for this 1 factor - LDL
  • He's been developing what he calls "the energy model" for how lipids work
  • He runs a Facebook group called Lean Mass Hyper Responders for a certain type of people who are lean and fit on a LCHF diet who have super good HDL and triglycerides but super high LDL
  • He polled the group and the vast majority report they feel better to significantly better
  • This "cholesterol is bad" stuff has been hammered into him for so long he may never believe anything otherwise
  • He did a 3.5 hour podcast with Peter Attia (who was in ketosis for 3 years straight) who still looks at cholesterol in the context of a Standard American Diet of trash
  • The group of LMHR people is really interesting to study because they also have super low cardiovascular disease markers
  • The podcast with Peter had some positive outcomes
  • His CIMT (Carotid intima-media thickness) tests that he does regularly to measure his CVD risk factor
  • It actually got a lot better since transitioning from his SAD diet to keto, even though doctors say that's not even possible
  • He then made his score get worse eating white bread, pizza, and a high carb + high fat killer combo diet and gaining a lot of weight
  • He then got it to drop back down again on a keto diet all while having 200+ LDL-C and 2000+ LDL-P
  • Doing exactly the opposite of what the literature says should happen
  • ALSO on the unhealthy Standard American Diet test where he was gaining weight his LDL went back down to good levels that a normal doctor would like WHILE his CIMT score got worse
  • Join the facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/LeanMassHyperResponder/
  • He thinks LMHRs experience a higher level of autophagy - they're in a blended fasted state - so it's hard for them to do extended fasts (which is true for me)
  • Your cells need to time to rest and repair
  • Basically, don't always be eating!
  • Let's talk other diets - he has too longtime friends who are vegan and they eat from when they wake until they sleep
  • You can get away with eating trash while you're young - he was skinny as a rail while eating rame, Totinos and chugging Coke
  • For the vast majority of people it eventually catches up to them - it could be alcohol, smoking, excessive sunlight - they seem immune to it and then all of a sudden they fall off
  • We both haven't been sick since being fat adapted/eating a nutrient dense diet
  • I actually got a tiny but sick though, for the first time, by assaulting my body with stressors for 3 days straight and then working out
  • More on how LDL plays a big role in the immune system
  • He has an interesting theory about people with familial hypercholesterolemia having lower total mortality rates despite having high cholesterol because of these high LDL numbers that serve them in times of need. These people have survived pandemics
  • Let's talk N of 1 studies
  • If you're feeling good 24/7 you're probably doing something right and shouldn't worry about a single number or theory
  • Find dave on Twitter http://twitter.com/daveketo
  • His website is http://cholesterolcode.com
  • If you're a lean mass hyper responder (LDL 200 or higher, HDL 80 or higher, and triglycerides 70 or lower) join the group https://www.facebook.com/groups/LeanMassHyperResponder/

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Part 105 - Nose to Tail Eating, Omega 6 to Omega 3 Ratio, PUFA Problems, Fatty Beef Snacks, and Beef Tallow Body Care

Part 105 - Nose to Tail Eating, Omega 6 to Omega 3 Ratio, PUFA Problems, Fatty Beef Snacks, and Beef Tallow Body Care

Hello beautiful people, welcome back. This episode is a special one and I won't do a whole intro. I'll just let you know there's 3 different interviews starting with one of the original grass fed, grass finished ranchers in America who I partnered with to do Nose to Tail. He called in on the phone and the sound quality wasn't great, but his story and information are spot-on. Really great stuff from a 76 year old rancher who really knows health and is living proof of what happens when you eat meat in a healthy way. He's really into the Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio and keeping the ratio near 1 to 1 like we would have ancestrally. He's been onto this about 20 years before anyone else. This is really awesome stuff. The next interview starts 19 minutes in and is with my South African business partner Gary I make the Nose to Tail biltong with. This is the traditionally made South African beef product that is kind of like jerky but a lot better. It is air-dried for 7 days instead of dehydrated at high heat in a matter of hours like jerky. We also don't use any sugar or other preservatives or curing agents. We use all the good fat instead of trimming it off like other people do. We're developing a dried sausage version with liver and heart. It will be the first of its kind in the world! The final interview 39 minutes in is with Tommy who makes the regeneratively grown beef tallow body care products. He makes them all by hand and uses nothing but a few natural ingredients. He'll talk about the origins of beef tallow as soap throughout human history and why using animal fat on your animal body is so beneficial. Really interesting stuff here with all 3 interviews that you won't hear elsewhere. Without further ado, let's jump in. Find everything here: http://NoseToTail.org SHOW NOTES [2:30] How Ted got into the grass fed beef business. [5:00] The importance of omega-3 ratios for combating chronic diseases. [8:30] The ratios of omega-3 comparing Nose to Tail and other grocers. https://www.nosetotail.org/fresh-meat/ [13:00] The balance of eating lots of high quality omega-3 foods and not so much omega-6 heavy foods. [19:45] Introduction to our biltong processor in South Africa. https://www.nosetotail.org/biltong/ [21:30] The difference between biltong and beef jerky. [26:00] The difference between our biltong compared to competitors. [31:30] Everything you need to know about our new product, Droewors. https://www.nosetotail.org/product/traditional-droewors-air-dried-beef-sausage/ https://www.nosetotail.org/product/peri-peri-droewors-air-dried-beef-sausage/ [39:00] The backstory of how Tommy got into manufacturing beef tallow body products. https://www.nosetotail.org/body-care/ [42:00] The history of the use of beef tallow for skin care/soap. [44:20] What we should look out for when purchasing body care products. [46:30] The importance of saturated fats on our skin. [47:40] Difference between natural fragrances and essential oils. [51:40] Some insight into our new deodorant that will be coming out soon. [54:20] Where are all of our new body care products sourced from? Find everything at http://NoseToTail.org

11 Marras 202058min

Part 104 - Max Lugavere on Using Acute Stress to Fight Chronic Stress

Part 104 - Max Lugavere on Using Acute Stress to Fight Chronic Stress

This is a Sapien podcast preview episode - subscribe to the Sapien podcast on your podcast app and watch the video version from our new studio on the Food Lies youtube channel. The new products are live on NoseToTail.org GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org Max Lugavere is a filmmaker, health and science journalist and the author of the New York Times best-seller Genius Foods: Become Smarter, Happier, and More Productive While Protecting Your Brain for Life, published in 8 languages around the globe. He is also the host of the #1 iTunes health podcast The Genius Life. He has also recently just written his new book The Genius Life. Lugavere appears regularly on the Dr. Oz Show, the Rachael Ray Show, and The Doctors. He has contributed to Medscape, Vice, Fast Company, CNN, and the Daily Beast, has been featured on NBC Nightly News, The Today Show, and in The New York Times and People Magazine. He is an internationally sought-after speaker and has given talks at South by Southwest, TEDx, the New York Academy of Sciences, the Biohacker Summit in Stockholm, Sweden, and many others. From 2005-2011, Lugavere was a journalist for Al Gore's Current TV. He lives in New York City and Los Angeles. Go check out his website to learn more: https://www.maxlugavere.com/ SHOW NOTES [6:10] His background and story of how he got into the industry. [13:20] Some of the dietary principles that he believes in. [19:10] Plants in a nose to tail diet https://iog.publichealth.uga.edu/2017/08/19/renzi-hammond-lutein-cognition/ [23:10] Buying organic vs conventional [24:20] High sugar fruits. [27:20] Jogging for exercise vs resistance training. [34:00] Leverage stressors to fight your own stress. [37:50] Nasal breathing. [42:50] Hot therapy. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6262976/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25705824/ https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(18)30275-1/fulltext [46:00] Cold immersion therapy. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4094425/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0026049516300026 [51:20] The importance of not coddling the elderly. [57:20] Use of diet/exercise to prevent mild cognitive impairment or progression. GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

28 Loka 20201h 8min

Part 103 - Kiran Krishnan on the Immune Health, Herd Immunity, Viral Exposure, Microbiome, Gut Health, and More!

Part 103 - Kiran Krishnan on the Immune Health, Herd Immunity, Viral Exposure, Microbiome, Gut Health, and More!

Kiran Krishnan is a Research Microbiologist who has been involved in the nutrition industry for the past 17 years. His early work involved hands-on Research and Development in the fields of molecular medicine and microbiology at the University of Iowa. He is a frequent lecturer on the human microbiome at medical and nutrition conferences and health summits and a regular expert guest on national and satellite radio. He is also a founder of Microbiome Labs, a company dedicated to researching the microbiome and providing research-based probiotics for patients. GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org SHOW NOTES [4:10] What we know about the Microbiome. [6:10] There's 40 trillion microbes in and on our body. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-43674270 [10:00] Microbes in the gut are messengers. [11:40] 80% of immune health is in the lining of the gut. https://www.health24.com/Medical/Flu/Preventing-flu/your-gut-is-the-cornerstone-of-your-immune-system-20160318 [13:40] Our digestive tract is outside of our body. [17:10] Obesity, diabetes, and heart disease are linked to severe COVID cases. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dmrr.3377 [22:30] Inflammation is the root cause. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4579563/ [27:20] A non-inflammatory diet builds a resilient immune system. [31:20] Strategic dietary changes shift our food options. https://www.meatpoultry.com/articles/22971-organic-meats-demand-continues-to-grow [35:40] Alternative or natural medicine is growing. [39:40] Stress is a potent disruptor of the microbiome. [44:40] Fleeting exposure is the best protection against a virus. [47:10] Herd Immunity is a long term protection. [51:40] Filth and germs are critical for the immune system. [56:40] Antibiotics save lives, but they're over-prescribed. [1:01:50] Gluten creates an immune response in everybody. https://www.marksdailyapple.com/does-gluten-have-any-effect-on-non-celiacs/ [1:05:00] Alzheimers is a result of inflammation. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnagi.2017.00407/full [1:11:10] Probiotics can cure leaky gut. https://microbiomelabs.com/home/press/microbiome-labs-publishes-study-on-megasporebiotic-in-the-treatment-of-ibs/ [1:16:40] Spore-based probiotics are evolutionarily supported. [1:21:10] Fermented meat and vegetables contain beneficial microbes. [1:26:10] Dietary variety and nose to tail nutrition is beneficial. [1:28:50] We can change our gut microbiome. [1:32:20] Yes, you can eat onions despite their sulfate content. GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

21 Loka 20201h 35min

Part 102 - Joel Salatin on Regenerative Ag, Forest Fires, Immunity Secrets, Fake Meat, and Wasting Plant Foods

Part 102 - Joel Salatin on Regenerative Ag, Forest Fires, Immunity Secrets, Fake Meat, and Wasting Plant Foods

Joel F. Salatin (born February 24, 1957) is an American farmer, lecturer, and author. He co-owns, with his family, Polyface Farm in Swoope, Virginia. Featured in the New York Times bestseller Omnivore's Dilemma and award-winning documentary Food Inc., the farm services more than 5,000 families, 50 restaurants, 10 retail outlets, and a farmers' market with salad bar beef, pigaerator pork, pastured poultry, and forestry products. When he's not on the road speaking, he's at home on the farm, keeping the calluses on his hands and dirt under his fingernails, mentoring young people, inspiring visitors, and promoting local, regenerative food and farming systems. GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org SHOW NOTES [6:15] How he started his journey. [9:45] The world's biggest problem is inertia and the need for empowerment. [16:15] Joel's ways to improve your immune health [19:45] The issue of living in a very sterile environment [29:00] Be a part of the microbial system. [35:25] Soil health and climate change. [44:15] 75% of the reason for the wildfires is mismanaged land [47:45] Methane and livestock. [59:15] His thoughts on man made beef. [1:06:15] Food waste in modern agriculture and food industry. [1:19:15] The importance of integrating our food systems, nation wide. [1:25:05] The true cost of running his farm and its ethical practices. GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

14 Loka 20201h 33min

Part 101 - Michael Rose, PhD Can Humans live until 200? Does Aging Stop?

Part 101 - Michael Rose, PhD Can Humans live until 200? Does Aging Stop?

Dr. Michael Rose is one of the world's leading scientists in aging, biological immortality, and human evolution. He is Director and Professor at the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at the University of California, Irvine. He has been doing research for 40 years and published over 275 Academic publications and authored 10 books including Does Aging Stop? and Evolutionary Biology of Aging GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org SHOW NOTES [4:20] How he got into evolutionary biology. [10:00] The force of natural selection declines with adult age. [27:50] Why we should eat an ancestral diet, especially as we age. [34:00] The importance of sticking to ancestral diets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-9S8M78iRY&list=PLkl7B_X7mCo7SQD1RqcwsDe-TF0yLkcXG&index=11 [39:40] Drugs and supplements to help with DNA transcription. [46:00] Autoimmunity, modern agriculture, and seed oils. [58:00] Theories for how our brains grew so exponentially. [1:02:40] How caloric restriction affects aging. [1:07:00] Caloric restriction led to a longer living, robust "super fruit fly". [1:19:00] What his diet looks like and what he suggests. [1:24:00] The importance of living in a tribal setting. [1:26:00] Addiction to food and substances. GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

7 Loka 20201h 39min

Part 100 - Dr. Steven Lin on Proving the Superiority of Native Animal-Based Diets Using Modern Science & Dental Health

Part 100 - Dr. Steven Lin on Proving the Superiority of Native Animal-Based Diets Using Modern Science & Dental Health

Dr. Steven Lin is a world leading functional dentist, TEDx speaker and author of the International #1 Amazon Best Selling Book, The Dental Diet. As a passionate preventative, whole health-advocate, Dr. Lin focuses on the understanding of dental disease through nutritional principles. His work has highlighted that crooked teeth and the orthodontia epidemic are diet based problems and the need for public health policy to prevent braces in the next generation of children.   GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org   SHOW NOTES: [5:05] How Dr. Steven Lin connects dentistry and Functional Medicine. [7:05] How dentistry is a bit of an isolated industry in the healthcare setting. [10:00] Your dental health is the window to your health.  [13:35] How he heard about Weston A. Price. [16:35] History of Weston A. Price. [26:35] Conflict of interest for what Weston Price found and researched. [35:35] How proper nutrition can help with proper mouth, jaw, and teeth formation. [43:35] Fermented foods for mouth health. [45:35] How sugar depletes calcium in the oral environment and leads to infections in the mouth.  [56:55] How sleep is affected from oral health. [1:03:35] Tongue posture.   GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

30 Syys 20201h 12min

Part 99 - Leigh Broadhurst, PhD on How to Feed Your Brain and How Our Brains Doubled in Size

Part 99 - Leigh Broadhurst, PhD on How to Feed Your Brain and How Our Brains Doubled in Size

Dr. C. Leigh Broadhurst is a research geochemist and physical chemist with the Environmental Microbial and Food Safety Laboratory, USDA Agricultural Research Service, and University of Maryland, Baltimore County. She is an expert on polyunsaturated fatty acid physical chemistry and biophysics, and together with colleagues has made dramatic advances in the field of paleonutrition and brain specific-nutrition; most importantly to understand the remarkable essentiality of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA; omega-3). Dr. Broadhurst has also published extensively in the fields of medicinal plants, environmental remediation utilizing plants, and natural diabetes prevention and cure. She has been a consultant, author and educator for the natural products industry for 25 years. GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   SHOW NOTES [12:10] How different indigenous cultures ended up landing in different continents. The Epigenetic Emergence of Culture at the Coastline: Interaction of Genes, Nutrition, Environment and Demography [19:00] How people knew they needed nutrition from certain foods. [21:20] What he focuses on in his research. [29:10] The importance of DHA from animal sources. [34:25] Finding large amounts of shells throughout the South Africa coast and what it means for paleoanthropology. [44:25] The issue with militant veganism. [46:50] Veganism is and should be an adult choice. [49:40] Plant foods are still important for our health. [1:04:50] There used to be good reason for processed food, but not so much anymore. [1:09:10] Aquatic Ape Theory. [1:25:10] DHA Aquatic Theory. Rift Valley lake fish and shellfish provided brain-specific nutrition for early Homo  Brain-specific lipids from marine, lacustrine, or terrestrial food resources: potential impact on early African Homo sapiens  [1:30:10] The problem with Paleoanthropology industry. [1:33:00] The importance of putting effort into what you consume. [1:36:50] More arguments and support for the aquatic ape theory. [1:41:10] Physiological arguments for human elements for long term adaptations for an aquatic environment.   GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

23 Syys 20201h 48min

Part 98 - Mary Ruddick, CNC Part 2 - Gut Microbiome, Finding a Healing Diet, Mental Illness, Plant vs. Animal Foods, Holobiome, and More!

Part 98 - Mary Ruddick, CNC Part 2 - Gut Microbiome, Finding a Healing Diet, Mental Illness, Plant vs. Animal Foods, Holobiome, and More!

Wow what a response to the first part with Mary! I'm so glad everyone enjoyed her as much as I did. So much more great stuff in our part 2. Stick around until the end - everything she has to say is valuable. GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg SHOW NOTES [4:00] The truth of what a blue zone's diet looks like. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3051199/ [10:00] Don't eat any processed foods and eat very seasonally. [15:50] Plant toxins in nightshades. [21:50] Intuitive eating. [27:10] Autoimmunity from non nutrientive amino acids from plant foods. [28:00] Infertility for lions in zoos. [31:00] Mental illness usually has a physical cause as well. [34:10] Ovaries have thousands of insulin receptors on them. [37:50] Losing your cycle from estrogen dominance and being undernourished, especially in a vegan diet. [39:50] Ways to help with low testosterone. [44:15] How to choose a diet that works for her patients. [50:20] The microbiome is always the first thing she looks into. [1:03:10] Lifestyle activity shifts the microbiome as much as the diet. [1:04:30] Weston A Price and how it affected her research. [1:08:50] What a diet that most people would do well on looks like. [1:12:30] Eating low variety foods and keeping it seasonally. [1:16:10] The best ratio for plant and animal foods in a diet. [1:21:30] Salt and spices in ancient civilizations. [1:25:40] PUFAs. [1:29:30] The importance of having a healthy microbiome on the skin. GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

16 Syys 20201h 34min

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