
#27 - John Horn: Leading Through Discomfort: Equity, Inclusion, and Employee Engagement in Nonprofits
Host Jocelyn King welcomes John Horne, Vice President of People, Culture, and Development at the YMCA of Metropolitan Los Angeles, for a thought-provoking discussion on people leadership and organizat...
3 Sep 24min

#25 - Matthew Owenby: The Reality of Workplace AI - Cutting Through the Hype with Value-Driven Strategy
In this episode of By HR for HR, host Jocelyn King sits down with Matthew Owenby, Chief Human Resources Officer at Aflac, to explore how progressive benefits strategies and deep business alignment red...
20 Aug 22min

#24 - Theresa Hummel-Krallinger: Humor, Resilience, and Stand-Up Skills: Unlocking Better Leadership
Jocelyn King sits down with Theresa Hummel-Krallinger, President and Chief People Officer of High Five Performance, speaker, stand-up comedian, and author of Make Waves. Theresa discusses the core the...
13 Aug 29min

#23 - JJ Owen: Gen Z in the Skilled Trades: Rethinking Recruitment Beyond the Resume
In this episode of By HR for HR, host Jocelyn King connects with JJ Owen, Executive Director of Skills Jam, to explore how organizations can adapt their talent acquisition strategies to engage the nex...
6 Aug 26min

#22 - Leah Stiegler: Navigating Complex Labor Laws
In this episode of By HR for HR, host Jocelyn King is joined by Leah Stiegler, Principal at Woods Rogers, to unpack the complex, high-stakes intersection of employment law and everyday workplace manag...
29 Jul 29min

#21 - Peter Phelan: Becoming a Cultural Change Agent: Turning Taboo Topics and Dry Benefits into Engagement
In this episode of By HR for HR, host Jocelyn King sits down with Peter Phelan, a former Chief People Officer turned culture strategist, executive headhunter, and HR’s resident humorist. Peter shares ...
23 Jul 26min

#20 - Bethany Muzzi: The Metrics That Matter: Connecting Employee Turnover to Hard Business Outcomes
In this episode of By HR for HR, host Jocelyn King sits down with Bethany Muzzi, an HR professional who built her leadership foundation in the high-stakes healthcare environment during COVID-19 before...
18 Jun 22min




















