112. How to Support BIPOC Clinicians and Individuals Living with OCD with Bianca Simmons & Erin Nghe

112. How to Support BIPOC Clinicians and Individuals Living with OCD with Bianca Simmons & Erin Nghe

Have you ever considered the profound impact of justice-oriented treatment in the context of OCD, particularly when it intersects with sensitive issues like race-based OCD? How do we create an environment where individuals, especially those from BIPOC communities, feel safe to openly discuss their fears and intrusive thoughts without the burden of judgment or dismissiveness?

In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to welcome Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe from ERP Kaleidoscope to discuss justice-oriented OCD treatment. They explore how to support BIPOC clinicians and individuals with OCD, emphasizing the need for a safe, empowering environment. The co-founders share insights on incorporating justice into ERP therapy and tackling race-based OCD. They advocate for diversity, clinician empowerment, and education on sensitive OCD themes, providing practical advice for therapists to effectively address these issues in their practice.

In This Episode

  • [00:03]Introduction to Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe
  • [02:39] Explanation of the name ERP Kaleidoscope
  • [05:28] The concept of justice-oriented OCD treatment
  • [07:57]Strategies to support BIPOC clinicians
  • [10:17] Concrete example of justice-oriented ERP
  • [11:47] Client's race-based OCD
  • [13:56] Empowerment and advocacy for clinicians
  • [15:46] Tangible exposures for clients
  • [18:00] The importance of understanding core fears
  • [19:41] Intersectionality in OCD treatment
  • [23:04] Educating clinicians on cultural awareness
  • [24:08] Impact on access and quality of care
  • [25:58] Contact information for further support

Notable Quotes

  • [03:04] “ERP kaleidoscope is all about uplifting the voices of BIPOC clinicians who specialize in OCD as well as the individuals.”- Bianca
  • [04:25] “Oftentimes when people think about OCD, they think about the suffering, and it's really hard to see the beauty. And so we really wanted to highlight how ERP brings out that beauty.”- Erin
  • [06:58] “BIPOC clinicians have to be able to feel safe because that's the only way that they can not only do good work with BIPOC individuals living with OCD but all individuals that have OCD.” -Erin
  • [17:12] “Some clinicians of color have no idea that there is this theme that also latches on to race and so that can be very blindsiding.”- Erin
  • [20:42] “What we're trying to do at ERP kaleidoscope as well, building those safe spaces in terms of healing circles, and just allowing that time for clinicians to be able to heal.”- Bianca

Our Guests

Bianca Simmons, an OCD specialist, co-founded ERP Kaleidoscope and owns Bianca Simmons LLC, a mental health private practice in Texas. With extensive experience in severe OCD treatment, she transitioned from managing a residential facility to providing outpatient therapy. Committed to accessibility, she focuses on supporting individuals from underrepresented communities and minority populations, ensuring they have access to the quality mental health assistance they need and deserve.

Erin Nghe is a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, and co-founder of ERP Kaleidoscope, a network association supporting Bipoc individuals with OCD and therapists interested in OCD treatment. With 15+ years of experience, she's also the owner and Clinical Director of OCD Set Free, training therapists along the East Coast in Ethical OCD Treatment. Erin advocates for OCD awareness, serving on the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Action Council of the International OCD Foundation and as a faculty member for their Behavioral Therapy Training Institute.

Resources & Links

Kristina Orlova, LMFT

Bianca Simmons

Erin Nghe

**Disclaimer**

Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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7. Compulsions Anyone?

7. Compulsions Anyone?

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6. Motivation

6. Motivation

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20 Apr 202012min

5. Compulsive Rumination

5. Compulsive Rumination

Learn all things OCD with the OCD Whisperer Podcast. Today we are covering compulsive rumination: what it is, why people rationalize why it is important to keep ruminating, and simple strategies to try today. Strategies discussed are: Catch yourself in the act!  Increase your awareness of how much of this behavior you engage in. Set firm boundaries with no ifs buts or anything else!  Example: I will parking lot thinking about this for 24 hrs. Talk back using strategies that foster non-engagement with the content.  For example: I have thought about x for so long and have not gotten any more clear on anything.  This mental processing is not yielding results and I will no longer do this especially when I am anxious and feel a sense of urgency or need. _____   IG @ocdwhisperer Resources for OCD  OCD Journal and Planner: CBT based tracker _____ Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes.  Though I am a licensed marriage and family therapist in California, this does not replace therapy.  See you in the next episode! Keep going.   *Episodes will be coming out bi-weekly.

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4. OCD Subtypes Continued (Part 2)

4. OCD Subtypes Continued (Part 2)

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31 Mar 202012min

3. OCD Subtypes Part 1

3. OCD Subtypes Part 1

Learn all things OCD with the OCD Whisperer Podcast. Today we will discuss the first half of various OCD Subtypes. Subtypes discussed are: Symmetry/Perfectionism OCD Contamination OCD Fear doing something wrong OCD Harm OCD                                           Hypochondria/ health OCD Pure “O” OCD  Scrupulosity OCD-morality, being good or evil  Just Right OCD  Need to know/ remember OCD  Pedophilia OCD       _____ IG @ocdwhisperer Resources for OCD  OCD Journal and Planner: CBT based tracker   _____ Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes.  Though I am a licensed marriage and family therapist in California, this does not replace therapy.    See you in the next episode!   Keep going.  *Due to the amount of information, there is a bonus episode out next week. *Episodes will be coming out bi-weekly.

23 Mar 202018min

2. Art of ERP

2. Art of ERP

Learn all things OCD with the OCD Whisperer Podcast. Today we will discuss the art of Exposure & Response Prevention as the first line treatment for OCD. Principles discussed are: Variability Defuse and create a little space between you and OCD Opposite Action Be here NOW Tripple A: acknowledge, agree, and accept _____ OCD Journal and Planner: CBT based tracker IG @ocdwhisperer Resources for OCD    _____ Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes.  Though I am a licensed marriage and family therapist in California, this does not replace therapy.  See you in the next episode! Keep going.   *Episodes will be coming out bi-weekly.

7 Mar 202012min

1. What is OCD?

1. What is OCD?

Learn all things OCD with the OCD Whisperer Podcast. Today we will discuss what OCD actually is-a doubting disease. A great resource is also the International OCD Foundation www.iocdf.org _____ OCD Journal and Planner: CBT based tracker IG @ocdwhisperer Resources for OCD ______ Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes. Though I am a licensed marriage and family therapist in California, this does not replace therapy. See you in the next episode! _ _ _ Keep going. Keep growing. Keep glowing. *Episodes will be coming out bi-weekly on Mondays.

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