#184 Kara Goucher on Living with Dystonia, the Nike Oregon Project and Protecting Female Athletes

#184 Kara Goucher on Living with Dystonia, the Nike Oregon Project and Protecting Female Athletes

On this episode, Matt & Andrea have the privilege of interviewing Olympian Kara Goucher. Kara's just released her book, the Longest Race, Inside the Secret World of Abuse, Doping, and Deception on Nike's Elite Running Team. They cover many facets of Kara's story, from her current struggles with runner's dystonia to her integral part in exposing the Nike Oregon Project and Alberto Salazar. They also discuss how excel at any fitness level, finding joy in running by feel, and encouraging female runners of all ages.


Kara Goucher is a three-time NCAA champion, two-time Olympian, winner of the silver medal at the 2007 World Championships in the 10,000 meters, and a podium finisher at the Boston and New York Marathons. She is a running analyst for NBC Sports. She cohosts the hit running commentary podcast Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara, as well as the Clean Sport Collective podcast, promoting fair play in sports. She lives in Boulder, Colorado, with her Olympic-runner husband, Adam, and their son, Colt. Her website is KaraGoucher.com.


Report at the links below if you have experienced abuse or misconduct, or if you have reasonable suspicion of abuse or misconduct inflicted on, or by, someone in the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement, which includes USATF. There are no associated costs, fees, or other financial barriers attached to submitting a report. The reporting form available when clicking the ‘Report Abuse or Misconduct’ button allows for reports to be made anonymously.
https://uscenterforsafesport.org/report-a-concern/
https://www.usatf.org/safe-sport/reporting-a-safe-sport-complaint
If you or someone you know needs help with disordered eating, please consult these resources:
https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/resource-center/
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Chapters

  • 0:00: - Intro
  • 2:16: - If you could change one thing about the sport of running, what would it be?
  • 16:09: - How to find your own excellence level
  • 20:34: - Kara's runners dystonia diagnosis
  • 32:02: - How shoe choice effects dystonia
  • 40:17: - Learning to live & train with dystonia
  • 44:50: - Kara's new book
  • 49:09: - The impacts of Kara's testimony about the Nike Oregon Project
  • 53:44: - The role of SafeSport in protecting athletes
  • 1:00:51: - Improving female athlete's health as they grow and age
  • 1:12:12: - Wrap-up

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#238 We Share Our Running Injuries and How We Have Managed Them

#238 We Share Our Running Injuries and How We Have Managed Them

No runner's immune to injury, and that goes for our crew too. Matt, David, and Nathan get together to share their recent running and injury struggles. They discuss what led them to injury, how they've adjusted their running to cope, and strategies they've used to rehab and get back to it. We hope our stories can help you can glean some useful tips on dealing with your own ailments. We'd love to hear your stories too! Email us at doctorsofrunning@gmail.com or DM us on Instagram.Get your DOR Merch: https://doctors-of-running.myspreadshop.com/Check out our friends at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Skratch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and save 25% on your first order with code DOR24!Chapters0:00 - Intro4:18 - Matt's recent injury struggles10:04 - How to adjust running based on symptoms18:24 - Nate's recent injury struggles31:20 - The difference between rocker and toe spring35:46 - David's recent injury struggles52:12 - The psychological side of pain1:02:18 - Wrap-up

16 Apr 1h 5min

#237 Made in Italy: Diadora Shares Insight into Their Shoe Design Process

#237 Made in Italy: Diadora Shares Insight into Their Shoe Design Process

Over the past couple of years, Diadora has been making strides in the American marketplace with a unique set of shoes. On this episode, Matt is joined by Bryan Poerner, CEO of Diadora USA to take a look at what makes Diadora special. Bryan discusses the hands-on, small-team approach they take in designing and developing shoes, quite literally hand made all in Italy from the upper to the outsole. They also share their common history of D3 running, a love of music, and more. Tune in for a look at a truly boutique approach to running shoes!Get your DOR Merch: https://doctors-of-running.myspreadshop.com/Check out our friends at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Skratch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and save 25% on your first order with code DOR24!Chapters0:00 - Intro & Bryan's background12:58 - What makes Diadora unique?22:11 - How Diadora designs & develops shoes30:23 - Bryan's favorite Diadora shoes39:04 - The unique aspects of run retail in the US40:56 - Final thoughts

9 Apr 45min

#236 Buy or Sell? Shoes over 40mm Should Be Legal, Shoes Don’t Need Annual Updates, All Shoes Don’t Need to Be Max Stacked

#236 Buy or Sell? Shoes over 40mm Should Be Legal, Shoes Don’t Need Annual Updates, All Shoes Don’t Need to Be Max Stacked

Catch David and Matt on another edition of our favorite debate game: buy or sell! They cover super shoes over 40mm, brand fit issues, stability super shoes, flexible racers, yearly updates, laces, and more. Tune in for some hot, and slightly unhinged, takes. Get your DOR Merch: https://doctors-of-running.myspreadshop.com/Check out our friends at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Skratch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and save 25% on your first order with code DOR24!Chapters:0:00 - Intro2:46 - Shoes over 40mm should be legal14:42 - There are certain brands that just won't work for certain runners19:25 - No one will ever make a stability super shoe25:06 - Highly flexible racing shoes30:10 - Shoes don't need an update every year34:44 - All laces should be flat laces37:34 - Not all super racing shoes need to be 40mm in the heel41:01 - Not all trainers need to be max stack44:22 - Santa Barbara has the best tacos47:54 - Wrap-up

2 Apr 48min

#235 All about IT Band Syndrome and New Shoes from ASICS and Diadora

#235 All about IT Band Syndrome and New Shoes from ASICS and Diadora

Are you experiencing pain on the outside of your knee? Join Nate and Matt as they dive deep into the world of Iliotibial (IT) Band Syndrome. They'll break down the anatomy of the IT band, explore common risk factors, and discuss effective strategies for managing and recovering from this common runner's ailment. Plus, they'll give you their take on the two updates from ASICS & Diadora: the Cumulus 27 and the Gara Carbon 2.Get your DOR Merch: https://doctors-of-running.myspreadshop.com/Check out our friends at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Skratch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and save 25% on your first order with code DOR24!Chapters0:00 - Intro1:22 - Asics Cumulus 27 overview10:28 - Diadora Gara Carbon 2 overview14:38 - IT Band anatomy24:12 - ITBS risk factors31:56 - Is strength training helpful for ITBS?36:44 - Will soft tissue massage or icing help the IT band?43:04 - Pain management & recovery guidance49:30 - Are there shoes that are ideal for people dealing with ITBS?56:32 - Wrap-up

26 Mar 57min

#234 Hoka Cielo X1 2.0 Analysis: Differing Opinions! and Thoughts on Super Shoes for Shorter Distances

#234 Hoka Cielo X1 2.0 Analysis: Differing Opinions! and Thoughts on Super Shoes for Shorter Distances

If you're a regular pod listener, you know we love a little friendly disagreement. Matt & Andrea pair up to share their differing opinions on the new Hoka Cielo X 1 2.0. As is often the case, they've had very different experiences, especially in such an aggressively designed racing shoe. They also ruminate on the future of super shoes and how to find racing shoes that line up best with your mechanics.Get your DOR Merch: https://doctors-of-running.myspreadshop.com/Check out our friends at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Skratch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and save 25% on your first order with code DOR24!Chapters0:00 - Intro6:30 - Hoka Cielo X1 2.0 Overview11:37 - Ride & performance23:02 - Fit differences28:26 - Stability35:14 - Thoughts on racing shorter distance in super shoes43:02 - The effect of heel drop and foot angle in super shoes46:47 - Who might the Cielo X1 2.0 work best for?49:10 - Wrap-up

19 Mar 54min

#233 All About Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome (Front of Knee Pain)

#233 All About Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome (Front of Knee Pain)

Knee pain, or patellofemoral pain syndrome, can be a thorn in the side for so many runners. Much like shin splints, it can present many ways, all of them frustrating. Nathan and David get together to provide some clarity on this frustrating injury. They look at the anatomy of the knee, common PFPS symptoms, keys for rehab, and of course, shoes. Get your DOR Merch: https://doctors-of-running.myspreadshop.com/Check out our friends at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Skratch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and save 25% on your first order with code DOR24!Chapters0:00 - Intro4:58 - An overview of knee anatomy8:46 - What all is encompassed in patello-femoral pain?18:52 - Understanding the balance between load & capacity30:24 - How do our mechanics influence PFPS?41:44 - How can shoes influence PFPS?46:17 - Wrap-up

12 Mar 50min

#232 Mailbag! How Do Shoes Help Us Run Farther? Super Shoe Advice? + Breakdown of New Stability Footwear in 2025

#232 Mailbag! How Do Shoes Help Us Run Farther? Super Shoe Advice? + Breakdown of New Stability Footwear in 2025

Matt Klein and David Salas are here for another mailbag episode where we answer your questions. In this edition, they cover shoes, injury rehab, training advice and more. Are there any firmer super trainers? Do you need to size up your shoes for marathon racing? What are the best strategies for dealing with shin pain? Tune in for answers to these and much more. Want your question answered? Email us at doctorsofrunning@gmail.com!Get your DOR Merch: https://doctors-of-running.myspreadshop.com/Check out our friends at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Skratch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and save 25% on your first order with code DOR24!Chapters0:00 - Intro4:03 - New stability shoes: Brooks Glycerin 22 GTS & Puma Foreverrun 29:30 - Is there any validity to how a shoe bends in our hands?16:44 - Do different shoes help with specific kinds of fatigue when running longer distances?24:08 - Are there any firm(ish) super-trainers?32:10 - Do you need to size up your shoes for marathon running?38:40 - Shoe recommendations for Morton's neuroma42:20 - Shoe recommendations for treadmill running45:20 - Advice for dealing with shin pain49:26 - Does running workouts in super shoes reduce the gain from the workout?58:34 - Santa Barbara vs. Houston tacos59:46 - Wrap-up

5 Mar 1h 1min

#231 We Rank Our Top 5 Daily Trainers from ’23-’25

#231 We Rank Our Top 5 Daily Trainers from ’23-’25

On this episode of the pod, Matt & David get together to rank their five favorite daily trainers from the past two (ish) years. They discuss what made the shoes work for them, what could have ranked them higher, and what to look out for when picking daily trainers for yourself. Let us know what your favorite daily trainers are! Drop a comment or email us at doctorsofrunning@mail.com.Get your DOR Merch: https://doctors-of-running.myspreadshop.com/Check out our friends at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Skratch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and save 25% on your first order with code DOR24!Chapters0:00 - Intro4:50 - #511:48 - #417:42 - #326:24 - #231:38 - #1: Top daily trainer of the past two years41:38 - Wrap-up

26 Feb 42min

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