The extraordinary cost of being dull - Peter Field and Adam Morgan
Uncensored CMO6 Sep 2023

The extraordinary cost of being dull - Peter Field and Adam Morgan

Marketing waste is one of the biggest issues facing our industry. So when marketing legends Peter Field and Adam Morgan reached out to me to talk about their new work on the impact of dull advertising on brands, I immediately got them on the podcast.


In this fascinating episode we discuss why you really can’t afford to bore your audience with your ads anymore. What have Adam and Peter learnt over 40 years about the actual cost of dull marketing to businesses, to brands and even to your career?

And for those marketers really hellbent on safety, we discuss the role of danger and a new upcoming mastersclass in how to make the dullest ad ever.

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Timestamps

  • 00:00 - Intro
  • 01:13 - Who is Adam Morgan?
  • 02:38 - The best challenger brands
  • 03:08 - Has being a challenger changed?
  • 06:25 - The legacy of the long and short of it
  • 11:01 - Who had the higher ranked Uncensored CMO podcast?
  • 11:45 - How Adam and Peter met
  • 12:26 - The inspiration for the extraordinary cost of dull
  • 15:24 - How are there effective, yet dull campaigns (big budgets is the answer)
  • 19:13 - The System1 Data on the cost of dull
  • 22:41 - Why is advertising so dull?
  • 26:21 - Why are the best marketing organisations trending towards more dull?
  • 27:29 - Making demonstratably unskippable ads
  • 30:55 - The role of danger and constraints in getting to great work
  • 33:05 - The % of B2B ads that are dull and the work The LinkedIn Institute is going to reverse this
  • 35:06 - How dull is approached in different categories
  • 39:01 - Orlando Wood’s current research
  • 41:48 - How will AI affect dullness
  • 45:27 - Which categories are doing a good job of being interesting?
  • 53:57 - Why we need a masterclass for dull

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The case for influencers - Arron Shepherd

The case for influencers - Arron Shepherd

Arron is co-founder of The Goat Agency which is the fastest-growing agency in Europe and one of the most successful influencer agencies in the World. He and his co-founders set up the agency 4 years ago with their own money and now employ 130 people around the world and manage around 90 social media campaigns at any one time. Arron has a wonderful personal story and a very compelling pitch for his agency.In this episodeArron’s entrepreneurial roots and creating something out of nothingThe fear of not trying is much greater than the fear of failureWhy more people should realise how hard being an entrepreneur isHow they generated 2,000 responses from a £10 investment in their first influencer What you do when 80% of influencer campaigns don’t workWhy Arron loves the procurement department and he proves the return on investment of an influencer campaignThe benefit of having no experience in your sectorThe importance of recruiting talent without experienceHow an influencer campaign can make your TV campaign more impactfulHow Content & Collaboration are the key to any campaign including B2BArron’s vision to build the world’s largest creative agencyArron reveals his secret new dietFollow me:Twitter | @uncensoredCMOLinkedInContact me:Website | www.uncensoredcmo.comEmail – jon@uncensoredcmo.comArron ShepherdArron's TwitterThe Goat Agency TwitterThe Goat Agency

16 Dec 20191h 7min

How to be a successful challenger - Adam Morgan

How to be a successful challenger - Adam Morgan

Adam is the founder of the eatbigfish consultancy and author of Eating The Big Fish which reached the Top100 books in the Amazon charts inspiring a whole generation of challenger brands in the process. Adam is a popular speaker and consults with brands all over the world on how to be a challenger. He has also written The Pirate Inside about building a challenger culture within your organisation and A Beautiful Constraint how to turn your limitations into advantages.In this episode:Why being No.2 is betterHow he turned the anger of his project being shelved into a career-defining opportunityBeing turned down by Phil Knight and where the idea of a Challenger brand came fromThe importance of over-commitment and being obsessed with executionHow Tony’s Chocolonely have become a truly challenger brandHow to be a pirate in the navy without getting firedWhat you can learn from a catwalk show and how constraints can turn into your greatest advantageThe curse of data and how it leads us to a decline in creativityThe furtile zero and what to do with no budgetAdam shares his worst career momentWhy the meeting is never really the meeting and why the Japanese fall asleep in meetingsThe one thing Adam has never told anyone beforeFollow me:Twitter | @uncensoredCMOLinkedInContact me:Website | www.uncensoredcmo.comEmail – jon@uncensoredcmo.comAdam Morgan:Twitter | @eatbigfishwww.eatbigfish.comEating The Big FishThe Pirate InsideA Beautiful Constraint

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Why we buy what we buy - Richard Shotton

Why we buy what we buy - Richard Shotton

Richard is author of the No.1 Marketing Book The Choice Factory which was the winner of BBH’s World Cup of Advertising books in 2018 beating some industry heavy-weights. Richard has 20 years of experience in Advertising planning, market research and behavioural science and last year made the big leap to set up a consultancy following the success of his book.In this episodeHow he ended up writing the best-selling marketing book of 2019Why behavioural science should matter to every marketerWhy rhyming phrases are not just more memorably but also more believable tooHow the decline in CMO & agency tenure is impacting on long term effectivenessHow our own experience impacts on our perceptions (the false consensus effect)The impact of social proof on sales and how to use itWhy you’ll spend less on a night out when paying cashHow making something easy is a huge competitive advantageWhy branded glasses make beer taste better and worth moreWhy a 4.5* review beats a 5* review (the pratfall effect)How many of the best ideas happened by accident but were Follow me:Twitter | @uncensoredCMOLinkedInGet in touch:Website | www.uncensoredcmo.comEmail | jon@uncensoredcmo.comFollow Richard:Twitter | @rshottonThe Choice Factory

16 Dec 201950min

Uncensored CMO launches on 16th December

Uncensored CMO launches on 16th December

When I say CMO what do you think of? I know, for me, I think boardroom politics. I think carefully managed messages. I think slick presentations. But what I don't get is, I don't get an honest answer. I don't get to know what they really think. I don't get to know how have they got where they are today, and what has shaped and influenced their career. And that got me thinking, wouldn't it be great if we had a podcast that asked some of the tough questions that get to the heart of what's going on. One that takes you behind the scenes to see how it really works. That's where the idea of Uncensored CMO came from.I want to connect you to the best marketers on the planet. The people that have founded and run ad agencies, the people that do the most amazing research and the people that influence people through PR. I want to get to those people and find out how it actually works. Tell me the things that have gone well. Tell me the things that have failed. Let me give you a little flavour to season one. I'm gonna be meeting people like Adam Morgan who founded the whole idea of challenger brands. I asked him, "How do you make a great challenger brand?"The whole world of influencers, to me, was quite mysterious, but I went and met Arron Shepherd, he co-founded The Goat Agency, and I asked him about what a successful influencer campaign looks like.Or, someone like Ian Millner, global CEO and founder of Iris. What's it like running a big ad agency? How do you get great work and how do you measure great advertising? What does a modern brand today have to do to stand out and be successful?These are just some of the conversations I've been having, and there are loads more to come.So I really hope you'll listen and subscribe to The Uncensored CMO. I'm gonna be launching this podcast on 16th December so set a notification, remind yourself to subscribe.You can also follow me on Twitter, @UncensoredCMO. I look forward to having a great conversation with you.

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