#59: Anthropic CEO Says Human-Level AI Is 2-3 Years Away, How Hackers Are Trying to Make AI Go Rogue, and Fake AI-Generated Books on Amazon

#59: Anthropic CEO Says Human-Level AI Is 2-3 Years Away, How Hackers Are Trying to Make AI Go Rogue, and Fake AI-Generated Books on Amazon

It’s been another interesting week in the world of AI…with a few things we need to keep our eyes on. Paul and Mike break it all down—and then some—on this week’s episode of The Marketing AI Show. Anthropic CEO joins the Dwarkesh podcast to talk about the future of AI. Dario Amodei, CEO and co-founder of Anthropic (maker of the Claude 2 large language model released in July of this year), just gave a wide-ranging interview on the future of AI. The interview took place on a recent episode of the Dwarkesh Podcast (linked in the show notes). It’s a must-listen, primarily because these types of interviews aren’t all that common. Due to considerations around competition and security, the heads of major AI outfits don’t always share in-depth their views on the industry and where it’s going. Not to mention, Amodei himself has a relatively small footprint online, so hearing from him is even less common. We’d encourage you to listen to the entire episode, but on our podcast, Paul and Mike call out some big highlights that have us thinking a little differently about the future of AI. Red-teaming at DEF CON finding flaws and exploits in chatbots If you aren’t familiar with “red-teaming,” it’s a critical aspect of making generative AI models that are as safe and aligned as possible. For example, GPT-4 was red-teamed for 6 months before its release in March 2023. This week, top hackers from around the world have converged at DEF CON in Vegas to find flaws and exploits in the latest chatbots from OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, and Stability. The teams working on red teaming often find these exploits by trying to “break” these systems in novel ways and by imagining creative, though nefarious, ways in which AI tools can be misused. The Washington Post shares examples of red-teaming: “AI red teams are studying a variety of potential exploits, including “prompt attacks” that override a language model’s built-in instructions and “data poisoning” campaigns that manipulate the model’s training data to change its outputs.” The results of the competition will be kept under wraps for a few months, so companies have time to address any issues highlighted by the red teaming efforts. Award-winning author finds AI-generated books written in her name Author Jane Friedman, who has written multiple books and was named a “Publishing Commentator of the Year” for her work in the publishing industry, woke up to a nightmare this week. A reader emailed her about her new book which just hit Amazon. The nightmare wasn’t due to getting a terrible review from a reader, it was due to the fact Friedman hadn’t written a new book at all. Friedman quickly discovered that half a dozen books had been published under her name that she didn’t write—and the books were AI-generated. The fake titles have since been removed from Amazon, but not before Friedman met resistance from the company. Paul and Mike explain the situation…and the implications. There are rapid-fire topics to be discussed, including Zoom backtracking since last week’s episode, and much, much more. Tune in!

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#18: AI for CMOs

#18: AI for CMOs

In a survey by IBM, 3,000 CEOs said technological factors were the number one concern for their enterprises over the next two to three years. As a result, 60% say they’re accelerating digital transformation efforts. This should be good news for CMOs. According to research from The CMO Council, the majority of the C-suite says the essential role of a CMO is to be a digital transformation leader. As companies go all-in on digital transformation driven from the top, CMOs should stand to benefit. But are CMOs prepared?  In this week’s episode, Paul and Mike break down some key findings from our AI for CMOs report, discuss opportunities for CMOs and marketing leaders, and more.

17 Juni 202258min

#17: AI for Advertising

#17: AI for Advertising

AI has many use cases for the marketing world, and this week Paul Roetzer and Mike Kaput are talking about AI for advertising. From allocating ad budgets to optimization, ad versioning, targeting, copywriting, and more, AI can help advertisers and agencies more than many realize. This episode is the first in a series of AI use cases by marketing discipline, based on chapters of their new book, Marketing Artificial Intelligence: AI, Marketing, and the Future of Business. Paul and Mike talk about case studies including HOLT CAT, Vanguard, and more.

27 Maj 202240min

#16 The Future of Business is AI or Obsolete

#16 The Future of Business is AI or Obsolete

With each day that passes, and each advancement in artificial intelligence language and vision technology, it is becoming more apparent that there will be three types of businesses in every industry: AI Native, AI Emergent, and Obsolete. Paul Roetzer kept running through examples in his mind—retailers, ecommerce shops, marketing agencies, event businesses, media companies, law firms, medical practices, artists, writers, graphic designers, financial advisors, banks, insurance brokers and carriers, software makers, game and app developers, real estate brokers, consumer products makers, hotels, restaurants, manufacturers, distributors, educational institutions—and he couldn’t come up with an industry or business model where this won’t be true. That's the basis for this week's Marketing AI Show podcast. In this episode, Paul is in the hot seat, and our Chief Content Officer, Mike Kaput, interviews Paul about this topic and a recent article he posted about it.

20 Maj 202247min

#15: AI for Event Marketing

#15: AI for Event Marketing

In this week's episode, Paul and Mike sit down to talk about AI and how we use it at the Marketing AI Institute. With our annual Marketing AI Conference (MAICON) coming up in August, we're currently marketing the event and pushing registrations. But with so many folks in our database, how can we laser focus our efforts? We're using AI and technology to help us predict high priority contacts based on their probability to purchase (more intelligent)...so we can reach out to them with customized, personalized communications (more human). We get transparent about our internal processes and hope you can learn something from this as well.

13 Maj 20221h 14min

#14, Lost and Gained

#14, Lost and Gained

Paul Roetzer and Mike Kaput discuss AI in the news in this new format for our podcast. Recent breakthroughs in language and vision AI technologies are accelerating innovation and creating increased uncertainty about where the limits of intelligent systems will be in the months and years ahead.  Every career path, business, and industry will be changed by AI. It’s simply a matter of time  And as designers learned with the introduction of DALL-E 2. And writers are learning with the rapid advancement of large language models from OpenAI, Google, Meta AI, and others. The future may be closer than we care to believe.  So, what can you do to turn this uncertainty into opportunity? Start by asking three questions: What will be lost? What will be gained? When? If you’re curious enough to understand what AI is, and what it is capable of doing, you will be able to see the inevitable transformations that are coming to your profession.  Listen to this episode with Mike and Paul.

6 Maj 202243min

#13, AI for CMOs series with Andrea Brimmer, Ally

#13, AI for CMOs series with Andrea Brimmer, Ally

As part of our AI for CMOs series sponsored by Persado, Paul Roetzer is interviewing CMOs paving the way in onboarding and scaling AI-powered technologies in their marketing and businesses. In this second episode in the series, Paul sits down with Andrea Brimmer, CMO of Ally. Ally, a leading full-scale digital financial services company, is currently using AI-powered technologies for conversational AI, document management, and to speed up and more efficiently run processes. Brimmer is widely recognized as one of the country’s most innovative and effective marketing leaders. Among her many honors and accolades include being named a winner of Adweek’s 2020 Brand Genius awards for marketers who have skillfully led their brands’ messaging to new heights. She has been named three times to Forbes’ list of World’s Most Influential CMOs and a two-time honoree of 100 Leading Women by Automotive News.

29 Mars 202232min

#12: AI for CMOs series with John Dougherty, Brighton Jones

#12: AI for CMOs series with John Dougherty, Brighton Jones

As part of our AI for CMOs series sponsored by Persado, Paul Roetzer is interviewing CMOs paving the way in onboarding and scaling AI-powered technologies in their marketing. In this first episode in the series, Paul sits down with John Dougherty, Chief Marketing Officer at Brighton Jones. John's role spans audience segmentation, automation, branding, digital media, events, messaging, inbound marketing, demand generation, and ROI. He develops the marketing vision and strategy with the support of his martech stack. Leaning on his agency experience, John views his business development team and business segments as “clients,” and focuses on providing the assets and tools needed for each to accomplish their goals. Improving marketing through the use of AI-powered tech opens up opportunities for John and his team to build and nurture and community through unique relationships with their customers.

22 Mars 202240min

#11: Cade Metz, The New York Times: Genius Makers

#11: Cade Metz, The New York Times: Genius Makers

In this week's episode, show host Paul Roetzer sits down with Cade Metz, technology correspondent for The New York Times, and author of the book Genius Makers: The Mavericks Who Brought AI to Google, Facebook and the World. This special episode took place during MAICON 2021 when Paul and Cade sat down for a fireside chat to discuss the story of AI throughout the past few decades. Cade's book, published in 2021, gives readers an insider’s look at the mavericks leading the race for AI supremacy. Genius Makers dramatically presents the fierce conflict between national interests, shareholder value, the pursuit of scientific knowledge, and the very human concerns about privacy, security, bias, and prejudice. Like a great Victorian novel, this world of eccentric, brilliant, often unimaginably yet suddenly wealthy characters draws you into the most profound moral questions we can ask. And like a great mystery, it presents the story and facts that lead to a core, vital question: How far will we let it go?  As one of Paul's opening lines of the interview, "[Genius Makers] literally just changed my perspective on the significance of what's happening," this episode dives into greater detail into some important moments in the book.

15 Mars 202250min

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