Daniel Jacobson on DevOps for Desktop Applications - Episode 59

Daniel Jacobson on DevOps for Desktop Applications - Episode 59

Today’s guest is Daniel Jacobson, a Program Management Lead on the Visual Studio team focused on empowering Windows Developers. Daniel was one of the speakers at the .NET Conf 2019 and will also be at the 2019 Microsoft Ignite conference! Daniel joined Microsoft about 5 years ago as a Program Manager. And now, as a Senior PM on the Visual Studio team, Daniel’s focus is on the biggest challenge that developers are facing anywhere in their development. His team empowers literally millions of developers building applications for Windows devices. All that they do is centered around customers and their desires.

In this episode, Daniel and Jeffrey speak about DevOps for desktop applications. Daniel shares his vision for empowering all Windows application developers to seamlessly and incrementally modernize their existing applications through the work that he and his team is doing. Daniel largely focuses on the Visual Studio App Center in this episode, going into detail about each and every step you need to know about when integrating it, and provides additional resources at the end of the episode to further your learning. Tune in!

Topics of Discussion:

[:39] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes!

[:49] Jeffrey gives some announcements and lets you know where to get a hold of his book, .NET DevOps for Azure.

[3:27] About today’s guest, Daniel Jacobson!

[3:53] Jeffrey welcomes Daniel to the show!

[4:04] Daniel speaks about his journey in the space and how he ended up where he is today.

[5:54] What is a client application? What makes them different?

[9:52] What are the choices available for those looking to run a native Windows application on the Microsoft platform?

[13:32] With WinForms, WPF, and .NET Core 3.0 coming out, what things can we not yet do if we’re trying to go to .NET Core 3.0? What should people watch out for?

[15:55] Daniel explains all we need to know about Visual Studio App Center!

[17:30] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[17:55] If somebody is upgrading an older WinForms’ app into .NET Core, would they track their work on Azure Boards or does App Center provide work item tracking?

[18:58] Does the App Center integrate with existing source control? And following that, does the App Center support an automated build process?

[20:01] After the build and you’ve got a numbered release candidate package of some sort, what should the developer do?

[23:03] Is this all ready to go today for developers to use?

[23:25] Daniel explains the next step in the process once you have the package ready and are ready to deploy to your first pre-production environment or test group of users. He elaborates on what that looks like and what tool to use.

[24:31] Daniel continues to explain what the package does once it is in App Center and what the chain of pre-production environments look like.

[25:16] When users get the latest version of your app, is that going through the Microsoft store? What will automated updates look like in the future?

[26:31] So will App Center feature be a full-on replacement for ClickOnce? And what is it called?

[29:46] Is the Microsoft business store ‘a thing?’

[30:17] Does App Center have an integration with the Microsoft store?

[30:38] What does the process look like to actually ‘go to production?’

[32:19] Are Xamarin, operational telemetry, crash reports, etc. all wired into App Center?

[33:36] Looking forward, what is Daniel’s vision for the future?

[35:11] Daniel highlights some valuable resources for listeners that want to learn more!

Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

Microsoft Ignite 2019

Party with Palermo - Microsoft Ignite Conference 2019 (Eventbrite)

Special pre-release offer that expires Nov. 2nd: email Jeffrey at Jeffrey@Clear-Measure.com and tell him who his very first guest on the podcast was then he’ll send you a free e-book copy!

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Pre-order on Amazon here!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure e-book!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsbookforcommunity — Visit to get your hands on two free books to give away at conferences or events!

Jeffrey’s .NET DevOps Bootcamp (Oct. 28-30th, in Lakeway, TX)

Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Daniel Jacobson’s Twitter: @PMatmic

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David Morton: What is a Data Scientist - Episode 323

David Morton: What is a Data Scientist - Episode 323

David Morton is a technologist with extensive experience across various sectors, including retail, finance, consulting, energy, and commodities trading. David has successfully contributed to companies of all sizes, from small startups to large enterprises with up to 60,000 employees. Renowned for his ability to simplify complex concepts and solutions, he believes in using the most effective tools to address challenges efficiently and elegantly.   Topics of Discussion: [2:41] David Morton’s background and early Career. [5:30] What is a data scientist? [7:35] Data Science vs. Software Engineering. [12:08] Hypothesis Testing and Model Building. [12:49] David explains the concept of a model in data science, using the metaphor of how a grandmother thinks about someone. [13:04] How models are mathematical representations of the real world, used for prediction and analysis. [15:06] Data science models vs. a GPT model. [18:08] The importance of using the right tool for the job. [26:10] The operational side of data science and the role of machine learning. [35:56] Practical examples of Data Science applications.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! David Morton LinkedIn David Morton GitHub   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

11 Nov 202449min

David Fowler: Architecture of .NET Aspire - Episode 322

David Fowler: Architecture of .NET Aspire - Episode 322

David Fowler is a Distinguished Engineer and has been at Microsoft for over 16 years working on developer frameworks and tools in the .NET space. He’s one of the creators of several popular OSS frameworks and tools such as .NET Aspire, NuGet, SignalR, and ASP.NET Core. He also architected the Azure SignalR Service, a service for doing real-time WebSocket-based communication at scale. He’s an avid open-source advocate and developer currently focused on simplifying developer experiences in the microservice space. David is also passionate about mentoring, supporting individual contributors in their careers, and helping underrepresented folks get interested in technology.   Topics of Discussion: [3:14] David’s career journey. [4:28] Development of.NET Aspire. [6:47] Evolution of front-end and back-end architectures. [13:27] Challenges and Improvements in.NET Aspire. [19:08] The set of resources they chose to start with. [21:48] The Infrastructure Library. [25:23] The potential for creating templates to streamline the bootstrapping process for teams and projects. [28:58] Does Azure API include networking in the firewall rules? [31:52] What are the things David is most excited about with DevStory? [32:3] The “wait for” feature. [38:03] The complexity of implementing health checks. [44:53] What is Dapper? [44:01] Future Vision for.NET Aspire.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! David Fowler GitHub David on LinkedIn David Fowler Microsoft David Fowler, Author at .NET Blog Azure Provisioning 3.0 GitHub NET Aspire Overview .NET Conf2024   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

4 Nov 202450min

Bob Ward: SQL Server - Episode 321

Bob Ward: SQL Server - Episode 321

Bob Ward is a Principal Architect for the Microsoft Azure Data team, which owns the development for Microsoft SQL Edge to Cloud. Bob has worked for Microsoft for 30-plus years on every version of SQL Server shipped from OS/2 1.1 to SQL Server 2022, including Azure SQL. Bob is a well-known speaker on SQL Server, Azure SQL, AI, and Microsoft Fabric, often presenting talks on new releases, internals, and specialized topics at events such as SQLBits, Microsoft Build, Microsoft Ignite, PASS Summit, DevIntersection, and VS Live. You can also learn Azure SQL from him on the popular series aka.ms/azuresql4beginners. You can follow him at @bobwardms or linkedin.com/in/bobwardms. Bob is the author of the books Pro SQL Server on Linux, SQL Server 2019 Revealed, Azure SQL Revealed, and SQL Server 2022 Revealed, available from Apress Media.   Topics of Discussion: [4:22] Bob’s long history with Microsoft and the evolution of SQL Server. [6:41] What are the big use cases that SQL Server can now do? [7:38] Beyond RDBMS framework. [9:34] Building innovation off an already trusted brand. [9:50] What’s the vision of AI on SQL Server? [10:51] It’s all about smarter searching. [14:26] AI assistance features in SQL Server, such as the SQL Copilot and natural language to SQL query generation. [16:02] Hybrid searching. [19:41] Challenges and opportunities in AI Integration. [20:43] Content moderation is now being added to the loop. [22:39] The categories of different models. [23:16] The potential for industry-specific models to enhance AI capabilities in fields like insurance underwriting. [28:19] Knowing which model to use. [33:17] The trend towards industry-specific training of AI models to better suit specific business needs. [34:07] The current vision for SQL Server. [35:22] Innovating in the cloud. [38:30] The potential for SQL Server to handle AI workloads on small form factors, such as edge devices and standalone boards.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! Ep 162 with Bob Ward Bob on LinkedIn Azure SQL Revealed: The Next-Generation Cloud Database with AI and Microsoft Fabric SQL-AI-Samples Samples Intelligent Applications with Azure SQL Database LangChain   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

28 Okt 202440min

Jeff Wouters: PowerShell Programming - Episode 320

Jeff Wouters: PowerShell Programming - Episode 320

Jeff was born and raised in The Netherlands and is an IT geek with a passion for automation. At the young age of 6, he had his very first computer and started developing his own Pacman to learn Batch programming. Looking back, the performance was terrible, but it worked. Over the years, he has always kept in touch with some sort of scripting or programming languages, such as Batch, (Turbo) Pascal, PHP, Delphi, Kixtart, Visual Basic Scripting (VBS), VB .NET, PowerShell, and C# .NET (Core). He is the owner of Methos, a consultancy and managed services company from The Netherlands focused on Microsoft Modern Workplace (Windows + Intune + Office365) and Azure through automation and Infrastructure-as-Code.   Topics of Discussion: [4:19] Jeff’s passion and the three turning points in his career. [8:47] The architecture and intention behind PowerShell being built on .NET. [12:33] What are the biggest mistakes Jeff sees people making when it comes to PowerShell? [11:50] Best practices for using PowerShell in DevOps environments, and common mistakes to avoid. [16:04] Differences between binary and PowerShell-based modules, and the benefits of exploring module code. [18:18] Leveraging .NET code in PowerShell scripts and the advantages of this approach. [20:00] Preferred methods for writing automated tests for PowerShell code. [23:39] Jeff’s current focus areas, including certifications and his upcoming “script portal” project.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! Jeff on Twitter Jeff on LinkedIn Jeff Wouters Methos jeff@methos.nl   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

21 Okt 202433min

Database Hygiene: Grant Fritchey - Episode 319

Database Hygiene: Grant Fritchey - Episode 319

Grant Fritchey has over thirty years of experience in IT, specializing in development and database administration. He works for Red Gate Software as a Product Advocate and writes articles for SQL Server Central and Simple-Talk. He is the author of “SQL Server Execution Plans” and “SQL Server Query Performance Tuning.” He also co-authored “Query Store for SQL Server 2019,” “Expert Performance Indexing,” “SQL Server MVP Deep Dives 2,” “Beginning SQL Server 2012 Administration,” and “Pro SQL Server 2012 Practices.”   He presents at conferences and user groups worldwide and is available for part-time, short-term consulting contracts.Since 2009, he has been recognized as a Microsoft SQL Server MVP. He has received the AWS Community Builder award for the past five years. In 2014, he was honored as a Dunn & Bradstreet MVP, and in 2011, he received the Tech10 Award in Rhode Island.   Topics of Discussion: [:35] Introduction of Grant Fritchey and his career in IT and database administration. [3:23] Grant’s journey from software development to becoming a DBA. [5:13] The importance of database selection and how different types of databases serve different needs. [11:27] Grant’s view on the addition of document support to major database platforms. [13:29] Database hygiene basics and the importance of regular backups and restore practices. [19:26] The business side of database recovery and balancing cost with recovery objectives (RPO/RTO). [25:03] Grant’s recommendations for testing database restores. [28:08] Automation in DevOps and the importance of human training in recovery processes. [31:53] Managing data warehouses and recovery strategies for large databases. [35:12] Resources for developers without dedicated DBAs to ensure good database hygiene.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! SimpleTalk by Redgate ScaryDBA.com Grant Fritchey on X   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

14 Okt 202437min

Programming Windows: Dave Plummer - Episode 318

Programming Windows: Dave Plummer - Episode 318

Dave was a developer or development manager on each of the major operating systems from MS-DOS 6.2 through Server 2003 while at Microsoft from 1993 to 2003.   He’s worked on MS-DOS products, OLE objects, Win95, Windows NT, and the NT Pinball game. He also wrote and helped design the initial prototype of Windows Media Center. Dave also added Product Activation to the Windows platform including various anti-tampering mechanisms to prevent illegal copying of the product. He’s also worked on Task Manager, Zip Folders, and Calculator as he focused on the Windows Shell. He currently runs a very popular online show called Dave’s Garage on YouTube, where he demystifies various software engineering topics.   Topics of Discussion: [:35] Introduction of Dave, his background, and his career at Microsoft. [3:47] Dave’s experience at Microsoft in the 1990s: the environment, culture, and working with some of the best developers in the world. [5:19] What led Dave to work on the Windows shell and user interface development. [7:38] The challenges of porting code from Windows 95 to Windows NT and working with operating system differences. [9:25] Dave’s work on Task Manager, Zip Folders, and Windows Media Center. [13:23] The state of software engineering today: Dave’s take on modern systems, embedded programming, and the rise of AI. [14:34] Embedded systems programming: Dave’s work with ESP32 chips, their features, and applications. [19:16] Thoughts on AI and its impact on software development: Will AI eventually write all the code? [21:14] The future of software engineering: How AI will change the role of developers and the need for debugging and architectural understanding. [22:47] Dave’s advice for young programmers: Learning C++, Python, and the importance of understanding system architecture.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! Github Dave Plummer Dave Plummer on X Dave’s Garage You Can Learn the ESP32 World! Source Level Debugging NEW LED Project Programming the ESP32 From Scratch   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

7 Okt 202429min

Jeff Sutherland: The History of Agile - Episode 317

Jeff Sutherland: The History of Agile - Episode 317

Jeff is the co-creator of Scrum and a leading expert on how the framework has evolved to meet the needs of today’s business. The framework he developed in 1993 and formalized in 1995 with Ken Schwaber has since been adopted by the vast majority of software development companies around the world. However, Jeff realized that the benefits of Scrum are not limited to software and product development. He has adapted this successful strategy for several other industries, including finance, healthcare, higher education, and telecom.   As the CEO of Scrum Inc., Jeff sets the vision for success with Scrum. He continues to share best practices with organizations around the globe and has written extensively on Scrum rules and methods. With a deep understanding of business processes — gleaned from years as CTO/CEO of eleven different software companies — Jeff is able to describe the high-level organizational benefits of Scrum and what it takes to create hyperproductive teams.   Topics of Discussion: [:35] Introduction of Jeff Sutherland, co-creator of Scrum. [3:47] Jeff Sutherland’s background: His experience at West Point and lessons in making work visible. [5:19] Fighter pilot experiences that influenced the operational side of Scrum. [6:02] Transition to the Air Force Academy and work in AI at Stanford. [7:38] Learning complex adaptive systems and the origin of Agile from complex systems theory. [8:30] How complex systems theory impacts Scrum and Agile teams today. [9:25] Jeff’s first experiences applying Scrum in the banking industry. [11:25] The development of Scrum and the 2001 Agile Manifesto. [12:57] Making work visible and organizing teams, from West Point to Toyota to the Agile Manifesto. [13:23] Fast forward to 2024: Issues in Scrum and Agile practices, including sprint lengths and backlog grooming. [14:34] Jeff’s new book: First Principles in Scrum and its relation to Scrum technology stacks. [16:23] Building autonomous systems: Lessons from radiation physics, AI, and complex adaptive systems. [19:16] The influence of autonomous robots on the creation of Scrum. [21:14] Discussion of Scrum and AI, leading to “Extreme Agile.” [22:47] Predictions for the future of Scrum and Agile: Teams becoming 30 to 100 times faster by 2030. [23:37] Example of AI in action: Developing a system to handle expense reports using Scrum principles. [29:37] Challenges with AI-generated code and the need for strong software architecture knowledge. [33:24] The importance of following Scrum “by the book” to achieve hyperproductivity. [35:30] Jeff’s closing advice on adapting to extreme agile to stay competitive by 2030.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! How the Agile Manifesto Came To Be   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

30 Sep 202438min

Ryan Riley: Leading a Software Engineering Team - Episode 316

Ryan Riley: Leading a Software Engineering Team - Episode 316

Ryan Riley is a Principal Software Engineer at Wise Rock in Houston, TX. He enjoys learning and collaborating on simple, creative solutions to problems, and implementing those solutions with others through teamwork, training, and mentoring. He has worked as a Solution Architect and Team Lead for local and remote teams, focusing on front-end UX and back-end, distributed applications and APIs to delight customers across many industries.   Topics of Discussion: [:36] Intro to Ryan and his experience in software engineering leadership. [4:10] Ryan’s early career journey and transition from the .com bubble to software development. [6:17] How Ryan stepped into leadership roles through initiative and team collaboration. [8:40] Balancing hands-on coding with team leadership in a long-term software engineering career. [12:10] The importance of experience and technical knowledge for effective leadership in development teams. [14:27] Empowering team members to lead projects and grow their skill sets. [18:15] Key non-negotiables for young developers, including pull requests, testing, and small commits. [21:28] Architectural patterns Ryan favors, like JSON APIs and balancing between monoliths and microservices. [28:55] Key strategies for supporting software in production and ensuring stability. [34:41] Challenges of cloud costs and performance and the importance of managing resources efficiently.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! Panes of Glass Wizards of Smart James Riley   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

23 Sep 202439min

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