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"You're Only as Good as Your Last Failure" : Former Meta S2P Leader Talks Credibility

Why do business stakeholders roll their eyes when you talk about "cost savings"? And why does the next generation of talent treat their career path like a video game?

In this episode, hosts Zachary Bachir and Natasha Gurevich sit down with Ted Baumuller, former Global Leader of Source-to-Pay at Meta (and formerly Cisco & Abbott), for a masterclass on stakeholder alignment and modern leadership.

Ted shares his unconventional journey from hating supply chain ("too many parts!") to leading procurement at one of the world's biggest tech companies. He reveals why "leading with savings" is a trap and how to actually get a seat at the table by speaking the language of Marketing, Engineering, and IT.

In this episode, we cover:

Stop Leading with Savings: Why stakeholders see you as a "back office cost center" when you talk price—and what to say instead to get their attention.
The Credibility Equation: Ted's rule for building trust: "You are only as good as your last failure".
The Gamification of Career: How to manage Gen Z talent who expect to "level up" their career like a video game (and why that's not necessarily a bad thing).
AI & The "Crap Work": Why you should happily hand over transactional work to AI so you can focus on relationships.
Career Zig-Zags: Why the best procurement leaders often don't start in procurement—and why cross-functional experience is your superpower.

Whether you are a procurement leader trying to get Engineering to listen to you, or a young professional mapping out your career, this episode is packed with practical wisdom from a leader who has seen it all.About Proc & RollProc & Roll is your guide to practical procurement, hosted by industry heavyweights Zachary Bachir, Conrad Smith (CEO, Graphite), and Natasha Gurevich (CEO, Candor Procurement). From fighting inflation to navigating AI, we deliver actionable insights and "Jam Sessions" with world-class leaders to help you turn procurement into a strategic powerhouse.

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Build vs. Buy is Officially Dead: The Surprising New Strategy Taking Over ProcureTech

In this episode of Proc n Roll, Zach and Conrad sit down with Joël Collin-Demers, the digital procurement mentor and author of the Pure Procurement newsletter. Joël unpacks the new "buy-to-build" para...

25 Kesä 51min

The Bravery of Leadership: Making the Hard Decisions in Procurement

In this jam session of Proc n Roll, Conrad sits down with Limor David-Sternfeld, a seasoned executive with a fascinating career journey that spans from the defense industry to leading global sourcing ...

18 Kesä 53min

Procurement's Next Crisis: Who is Paying for All This AI?

In this week's Proc n Roll, the trio tackles a billion-dollar boardroom debate: Who exactly owns AI in the enterprise? With 87% of companies increasing AI budgets by 2026, but only 14% having a clear ...

4 Kesä 44min

Stop Begging for a Seat at the Table (This Fortune 500 CPO Says It's Fake)

In this week's Proc n Roll, we are joined by procurement legend John Dixon, whose 40-year career includes serving as Chief Procurement Officer for global giants like AstraZeneca, GSK, Diageo, BP, and ...

28 Touko 52min

57 Contracts With the Same Hotel: The Visibility Problem Nobody Sees

You think you know your spend? Natasha Gurevich once found a company with 57 separate contracts with the same hotel chain — because nobody had visibility across entities. In this Proc N Roll: Track, C...

26 Touko 12min

Building Digital Twins: How AI is Reshaping the Procurement Workforce

In this episode of Proc N Roll, the "Three Amigos" reunite to tackle the wild frontier of AI in the workplace before diving deep into the architecture of procurement operating models.Are AI tools "emp...

21 Touko 49min

Stop Hiring. Start Growing: The Procurement Talent Fix

The procurement talent crisis isn't a hiring problem — it's a development problem. In this Proc N Roll: Track, Natasha Gurevich argues that as automation replaces purchasing tasks, leaders can't expec...

19 Touko 9min

How to Win Over a Stakeholder Who Doesn't Want Your Help

Every procurement professional has met that stakeholder — the one who says "we're fine, thanks" and locks the door.In this Proc N Roll: Track, Natasha Gurevich shares the exact playbook she used to br...

12 Touko 10min