102. Women Betray Too

102. Women Betray Too

In this episode, Marnie talks with Patty, a female betrayer, and Judith Nisenson, a betrayal trauma coach, to confront the often-ignored reality that women betray too. They dive deep into the unique patterns of female betrayal, the emotional drivers behind it, and the specific challenges women face when seeking recovery in a field traditionally focused on male betrayers.

The conversation explores:

  • Patty’s personal story: A brave and vulnerable account of a lifelong pattern of betrayal, from early childhood emotional detachment and teenage sexual trauma to two marriages and a secret sexual basement.
  • The nuances of female infidelity: Judith discusses why women's reasons for cheating often differ from men's, highlighting themes of emotional neglect, a lack of self-identity, and the chameleon effect of morphing to fit others' expectations.
  • The double standard of shame: A discussion on the societal and "Scarlet Letter" stigmas that create an extra layer of isolation and self-loathing for female betrayers.
  • A roadmap to recovery: Vital resources for healing are shared, including 12-step programs (SAA, SLAA) and specialized coaching groups.


Whether you are a woman or a man, a betrayer seeking to understand your own patterns or a betrayed partner navigating the trauma of betrayal, this episode offers a compassionate and honest space for healing and hope.

Resources:

  • Helping Couples Heal Services: Click here to learn more about our ongoing coaching group for female betrayers.
  • Connect with Judith Nisenson: Visit womenswrk.com to learn more about Judith’s work with female betrayers.
  • Join a Coaching Group: Explore Judith’s eight-week curriculum-based coaching groups for women by clicking here.
  • Tune in to "Women Cheat Too": Check out Judith's podcast for bite-sized episodes on navigating female betrayal here.
  • Resources for Men: To learn more about the male betrayed partners group led by Adam (Judith’s husband), click here.
  • Want to connect with us? Click here to book your free 15-minute call

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