#9 Getting Serious About Joy

Welcome to Season 2 of The Catastrophe Café — same spirit, new guests, more perspectives. And we’re kicking it off with a paradox.

Getting serious about joy. Yes, that’s exactly what we did.

Because somewhere between growing up and getting productive, most of us quietly stopped giving joy permission to show up. Not dramatically. Just gradually — buried under priorities, deadlines, and the vague sense that fun is something you earn.

In this episode, we explore:

Why performance lives precisely where challenge meets skill in a genuinely enjoyable way — and what science says about joy as a driver of success, not just a reward for it

The difference between pleasure and joy — and why sparking the flame of joy takes more intention than we think

What burnout really is — and why it’s not just exhausted batteries that need recharging, but the slow suffocation that happens when joy and meaning are systematically absent

The canary moment — and how to recognise when the mine itself needs to change

What was the last time you felt true joy? Take a moment with that.

About The Catastrophe Café: Join Dr. Fabio Duma and Anita Aerni for honest conversations about the beautiful mess of work, life & everything in between. No polished soundbites — just real dialogue about the challenges we all face and how we make sense of them.

Connect with us:

🌐 www.fabioduma.com

🌐 www.anitaaerni.org

Season 2 Episodes:

Getting Serious About Joy
Living More with Less (about freedom with(out) money)
On Speaking Up and Getting Heard
Care, Dare, Share — Secure Base Leadership (I)
Care, Dare, Share — Secure Base Leadership (I)
and more...

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#12 Care, Dare & Share with Dr. Susan Goldsworthy OLY (Part 1)

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#11 On Speaking Up And Getting Heard

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#10 Living More With Less

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12 Mar 34min