Managing Managers

Managing Managers

Stepping up from an IC to managing other ICs is no easy feat. But brace yourself because the real surprise comes when you level up again—to managing managers! Curious to know how top tech leaders made this leap? Join our host, the experienced Pat Kua, as he delves into the strategies and stories of leaders in tech who’ve mastered the art of managing managers. 🎙️💡

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Episoder(31)

Episode 23: The many flavours of managing managers with Maggie Litton

Episode 23: The many flavours of managing managers with Maggie Litton

Maggie Litton has held many senior management roles across many different companies and in this episode gives us an insight into some of the ways the manager of manager role changes. To me, she is a g...

8 Jun 202448min

Episode 22: Ethical engineering management with David Yee

Episode 22: Ethical engineering management with David Yee

In this conversation with VP Engineering at the NY Times, David Yee, we cover a huge amount of ground from how delegation differs for managers of managers, the focus on principles over tasks, adapting...

25 Mai 202447min

Episode 21: Splitting time and tech strategy with Anna Shipman

Episode 21: Splitting time and tech strategy with Anna Shipman

I had the pleasure of chatting to experienced tech leader and CTO, Anna Shipman about the challenges of IC and management responsibilities combined at higher levels, how to think about splitting time ...

11 Mai 202442min

Episode 20: Navigating organisational change and traumatic times with Nivia Henry

Episode 20: Navigating organisational change and traumatic times with Nivia Henry

Nivia has a fascinating and long history in technology and we talked about how directors can help people through organisational change, the trauma of dealing with forced change from COVID and how a lo...

27 Apr 202443min

Episode 19: Finding a manager of managers role with Dr Claire Knight

Episode 19: Finding a manager of managers role with Dr Claire Knight

I really enjoyed a lot of the insights Claire shared with me in this episode - everything from getting comfortable with how other managers approach problems differently from you, the benefits of an ex...

13 Apr 202442min

Episode 18: Onboarding and prioritising time in a 2000-person eng org with Thiago Ghisi

Episode 18: Onboarding and prioritising time in a 2000-person eng org with Thiago Ghisi

Thiago Ghisi covers his background of moving from a consulting career to a management role, his experience of onboarding in different contexts and why he thinks joining as a director is easier than jo...

30 Mar 202446min

Episode 17: A unique leadership journey and avoiding swirl with Sally Lait

Episode 17: A unique leadership journey and avoiding swirl with Sally Lait

I have worked with so many people who have followed a non-traditional route into tech and so really enjoyed hearing Sally’s journey into tech and how she found herself managing other managers. Given h...

16 Mar 202448min

Episode 16: Management as a true calling and the three pillars of being a director with Dan Na

Episode 16: Management as a true calling and the three pillars of being a director with Dan Na

I’ve been a big fan of Dan’s writing for a while. You might have read some of his articles on management in my Level Up newsletter. In this episode, he shines a light on how he found himself in his fi...

2 Mar 202444min

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