Managing Managers

Managing Managers

Stepping up from an IC to managing other ICs is no easy feat. But brace yourself because the real surprise comes when you level up again—to managing managers! Curious to know how top tech leaders made this leap? Join our host, the experienced Pat Kua, as he delves into the strategies and stories of leaders in tech who’ve mastered the art of managing managers. 🎙️💡

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Episoder(31)

Episode 15: Greater scope, systems and what is a VP of Engineering and Operations with Maria Gutierrez

Episode 15: Greater scope, systems and what is a VP of Engineering and Operations with Maria Gutierrez

I’ve been really lucky to meet Maria several times at conferences in real-life and in this episode, we were able to shine a light into parts of her 20 year journey in tech. I love how she thinks about...

17 Feb 202447min

Episode 14: Naturally growing into a managing managers role with Alexandra Sunderland

Episode 14: Naturally growing into a managing managers role with Alexandra Sunderland

If you’re interested in what it means to be manager of managers in a fully remote environment, this episode is for you. As author of the book, “Remote Engineering Management”, Alexandra shares some ti...

3 Feb 202443min

Episode 13: Digging your well, the Staff Engineering Manager and managing burnout with Anjuan Simmons

Episode 13: Digging your well, the Staff Engineering Manager and managing burnout with Anjuan Simmons

Anjuan taught me a few new concepts in this chat such as the saying of digging your well and what that means, what the unusual title of Staff Engineering Manager is and also some practical tips on man...

20 Jan 202451min

Episode 12: Learning to be a manager of manager on the job with Vitor Reis

Episode 12: Learning to be a manager of manager on the job with Vitor Reis

When managers leave and you inherit their team, you can suddenly find yourself managing multiple teams and shortly after, a manager of manager. Find out how Vitor Reis navigated this quick transition ...

7 Jan 202448min

Episode 11: Reasons why managing managers is not for everyone and so much more with Katie Wilde

Episode 11: Reasons why managing managers is not for everyone and so much more with Katie Wilde

Senior Director of Engineering, Katie Wilde and I chat about her unusual path into tech, "falling" into her first managing managers role and the signals that you can look out for to determine the perf...

23 Des 202347min

Episode 10: Peer mentoring, building a support group and managing up with Nickolas Means

Episode 10: Peer mentoring, building a support group and managing up with Nickolas Means

Nickolas Means is a very thoughtful and calm engineering leader who I was lucky enough to meet through a number of conferences. He's a wonderful story teller and in our chat, we talk about his growth ...

9 Des 202342min

Episode 9: Serendipity, looking for future talent, and how to do no harm with Theresa Neate

Episode 9: Serendipity, looking for future talent, and how to do no harm with Theresa Neate

Theresa Neate and I have a common passion for systems thinking, so join us in this conversation where we talk about the serendipity of leadership roles, how managers of managers look for future talent...

25 Nov 202344min

Episode 8: Introspection, spotting strengths and building great teams, not just good teams with Tramale Turner

Episode 8: Introspection, spotting strengths and building great teams, not just good teams with Tramale Turner

Tramale Turner has a lot of leadership and management experience to share, across a broad range of fascinating companies. In this episode we cover topics like the importance of introspective, the skil...

11 Nov 202351min

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