Breaking Into Banks and Bypassing Modern Security with Greg Hatcher and John Stigerwalt

Breaking Into Banks and Bypassing Modern Security with Greg Hatcher and John Stigerwalt

Three banks in four days isn't just a bragging right for penetration testers. It's a wake-up call showing that expensive security tools and alarm systems often fail when tested by skilled operators who understand both human behavior and technical vulnerabilities.

Greg Hatcher and John Stigerwalt, co-founders of White Knight Labs, talk about their latest physical penetration tests on financial institutions, manufacturing facilities protecting COVID-19 vaccine production, and why their new Server 2025 course had to rewrite most common Active Directory tools. They share stories of armed guards, police gun draws, poison ivy reconnaissance, and a bag of chips that saved them from serious trouble. The conversation reveals why EDR alone won't stop ransomware, how offline backups remain the exception rather than the rule, and what security controls actually work when attackers bring custom tooling.

Impactful Moments:

00:00 - Intro 01:00 - New training courses launched 03:00 - Server 2025 breaks standard tools 05:00 - COVID facility physical penetration 07:00 - Armed guards change the game 10:00 - Police draw guns on operators 13:00 - Bag of chips saves the day 15:00 - Nighttime versus daytime physical tests 18:00 - VIP home security assessments 20:00 - 2026 threat predictions 22:00 - Why EDR doesn't stop ransomware 27:00 - Low cost ransomware simulation ROI 29:00 - Three banks in four days 32:00 - Deepfake as the new EDR

Links:

Connect with our guests – Greg Hatcher: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregoryhatcher2/ John Stigerwalt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-stigerwalt-90a9b4110/ Learn more about White Knight Labs: https://www.whiteknightlabs.com

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Episode 20 - Embracing the grind with Will Rankin

Episode 20 - Embracing the grind with Will Rankin

Episode 20 Is Here 🚨In this special episode Chris and Ron are joined by Security Imagineer Will Rankin. The group discusses personal strategies for embracing the grind and move towards the next level. SecDevOps.AI Would like to give a special thanks to Will for his appearance on this episode and all of his support promoting the platform.

3 Okt 201929min

Episode 19 - Dressed for Success in Cyber with Ashley Tolbert

Episode 19 - Dressed for Success in Cyber with Ashley Tolbert

In this episode Ashley Tolbert joins Chris and Ron to discuss fashion in Cybersecurity. Fashion tribes, Attire, and Style Preferences are all points to consider when making an impression.

24 Sep 201924min

Episode18 - Math for Security and Red Teaming with KMAP

Episode18 - Math for Security and Red Teaming with KMAP

From Security Architect to Principal Red Team Engineer, KMAP joins Chris and Ron to discuss his diverse background and how he plans to use Discrete Math and BloodHound to advanced the capabilities of red teams.

5 Sep 201925min

Episode 17 - Undercover in the Criminal Underground with Charity Wright

Episode 17 - Undercover in the Criminal Underground with Charity Wright

New Episode Alert 🚨In this episode, Chris and Ron are joined by Charity Wright - An exceptional Threat Intelligence Analyst focusing on criminal activity on the deep and dark web. Charity also shares insight on how she began her career in intelligence and infosec.

28 Aug 201919min

Episode16 - Reading, Seeding, and Leading with Jonathan Wood

Episode16 - Reading, Seeding, and Leading with Jonathan Wood

In this powerful episode, Jonathan Wood joins Chris and Ron and shares insight on growth - personal, professional, and sales. Jonathan has a diverse background in cybersecurity startups and is currently leading his 4th startup, TruStar Technologies, to success.

24 Aug 201949min

Episode 15 - Thrill of the Hunt: Finding your Path

Episode 15 - Thrill of the Hunt: Finding your Path

In this episode, Chris and Ron learn about the impressive background of Kris Harms. Kris has a decorated career and extensive experience in Intrusion Detection, Incident Response, and Threat Hunting. He's been an early member at both Mandiant and Cylance which resulted in successful acquisitions.

21 Aug 201930min

Episode 14 - Quality Time with ITSP: A Podcaster's Podcast

Episode 14 - Quality Time with ITSP: A Podcaster's Podcast

In this episode, Ron and Chris are joined by Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli from ITSPMagazine.com. Both set of podcasters have ambitious goals to start unique conversations and bring more diversity to Cybersecurity. Tune in and hear about the vision of both SecDevOps.AI and ITSP Magazine.

20 Aug 201929min

Episode 13 - A Journey Through Venture Capitalism: Mentoring and Leading in Silicon Valley

Episode 13 - A Journey Through Venture Capitalism: Mentoring and Leading in Silicon Valley

Mentors and Leaders help shape our profession and our future. In this episode, Didi Dayton from Wing Venture Capital joins the podcast to discuss the importance of mentoring and leadership. Didi has scaled and shaped successful channel programs - She's now shaping and scaling to a greater magnitude in her new role as Partner at Wing VC. Didi Dayton https://www.linkedin.com/in/didi-dayton-8204501/

14 Aug 201927min

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