Breaking Into Banks and Bypassing Modern Security with Greg Hatcher and John Stigerwalt

Breaking Into Banks and Bypassing Modern Security with Greg Hatcher and John Stigerwalt

Three banks in four days isn't just a bragging right for penetration testers. It's a wake-up call showing that expensive security tools and alarm systems often fail when tested by skilled operators who understand both human behavior and technical vulnerabilities.

Greg Hatcher and John Stigerwalt, co-founders of White Knight Labs, talk about their latest physical penetration tests on financial institutions, manufacturing facilities protecting COVID-19 vaccine production, and why their new Server 2025 course had to rewrite most common Active Directory tools. They share stories of armed guards, police gun draws, poison ivy reconnaissance, and a bag of chips that saved them from serious trouble. The conversation reveals why EDR alone won't stop ransomware, how offline backups remain the exception rather than the rule, and what security controls actually work when attackers bring custom tooling.

Impactful Moments:

00:00 - Intro 01:00 - New training courses launched 03:00 - Server 2025 breaks standard tools 05:00 - COVID facility physical penetration 07:00 - Armed guards change the game 10:00 - Police draw guns on operators 13:00 - Bag of chips saves the day 15:00 - Nighttime versus daytime physical tests 18:00 - VIP home security assessments 20:00 - 2026 threat predictions 22:00 - Why EDR doesn't stop ransomware 27:00 - Low cost ransomware simulation ROI 29:00 - Three banks in four days 32:00 - Deepfake as the new EDR

Links:

Connect with our guests – Greg Hatcher: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregoryhatcher2/ John Stigerwalt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-stigerwalt-90a9b4110/ Learn more about White Knight Labs: https://www.whiteknightlabs.com

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Episode 12 - Physical Red Teaming: No Lock Left Secured

Episode 12 - Physical Red Teaming: No Lock Left Secured

Robert Pingor is the equalizer to Physical and Network Red Teaming. Chris has had the opportunity to moonlight his career with Robert and witness him obtain mastery at his craft. During this interview, Chris, Ron, and Robert share red team stories and resources for Red Team Alliance.

13 Aug 201915min

Episode 11 - Selling Cybersecurity: Doing Business in an Increasingly Connected World

Episode 11 - Selling Cybersecurity: Doing Business in an Increasingly Connected World

Information Security vendors offer a wide variety of products and services that can enable success for organizations. Derek Eid joins us this episode to share wisdom in selling products and services. Derek is an expert communicator and leverages technical and non-technical conversations to capture necessities for existing and potential customers. Derek's most effective tool in his repertoire is his ability to listen. Tune in and learn how he uses this powerful tool to help enable his success.

23 Juli 201937min

Episode 10 - Breaking Barriers, Gatekeepers, and Glass Ceilings

Episode 10 - Breaking Barriers, Gatekeepers, and Glass Ceilings

Neelima Rustagi joins Chris and Ron in this episode to share her experiences creating valuable work to dissolve barriers, gatekeepers, and glass ceilings. While transitioning from Software Engineer to Cybersecurity Product Manager, Neelima provided value to her stakeholders, mentors and advocates to position herself as a key resource in the industry. Neelima celebrates a decorated background in startups and Fortune cybersecurity companies.

16 Juli 201939min

Episode 9 - The Intelligence Easy Button

Episode 9 - The Intelligence Easy Button

In this Episode, Ron and Napoleon put Chris in the hot seat and reviewed his EASY framework for making an impact in threat intelligence.   - Elicit Requirements - Assess Collection - Plan Strive for Impact - Yield to Feedback   All four pillars are vital for ensuring success during each phase of providing threat intelligence as a service

7 Juli 201919min

Episode 8 - Serverless Threat Intel Bot

Episode 8 - Serverless Threat Intel Bot

New Member Alert 🚨! Napoleon Bing joins forces with Chris and Ron and present a Serverless Threat Intel Bot. As organizations mature and scale their security infrastructure, it's vital that analysts, engineers, and other team members are able to query and enrich data on demand. Additionally, application features are being introduced at an increasing rate, creating the need for software defined infrastructure. In this project, we'll be exploring scaling automation efforts - with a focus on Threat Intelligence. This project can serve as a guide for when to leverage an interactive bot, creating API endpoints, serverless architecture, and applying actionable threat intelligence.

7 Juli 201913min

Episode 7 - Layer 8 - Vulnerability And Diversity

Episode 7 - Layer 8 - Vulnerability And Diversity

How important is being vulnerable in life and in your career? In Episode 7, our guest of honor - Charles Nwatu (https://www.linkedin.com/in/cnwatu/) joins Ron and Chris in starting the conversation about vulnerability and diversity. Charles Nwatu celebrates a decorated infosec career - and has built security teams at companies such as Twilio, Stitch Fix, and Netflix.

7 Juli 201944min

Episode 6 - MITRE ATT&CK™ Matrix Overview

Episode 6 - MITRE ATT&CK™ Matrix Overview

In this episode, Chris Cochran and Ronald Eddings review the MITRE ATTACK Matrix and discuss related threat actors, TTPs, Threat Intelligence, and vendor evaluations.

7 Juli 201921min

Episode 5 - What legacy do you want to leave

Episode 5 - What legacy do you want to leave

In this episode, Chris presents a deep question to Ron during a live recording. What legacy do you want to leave? This can have many meanings for people. Do you want to leave a legacy with your family? Your career? Life in general? In this video, Ron and Chris also share future episode topics

7 Juli 201917min

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